removing login info

saddlebred:

Okay, I understand that it is not currently supported, but I've seen mention, in this thread, about how to edit the code so that it is not required. The instructions were not clear. First there was mention of simpling editing 2 files, but no mention of which 2 to edit, then there was mention of editing the creat_account.php file, but there are a couple of files named creat_account.php located in different directories. So, now I'm really confused.
Melissa
http://store.equineshop.biz

Sorry Melissa, can't help you there. I poked around in those files and I can see the "if" statements, but I don't speak PHP, just HTML and CSS. Did you try emailing the guy who claims he can do it??

craftzombie:

Sorry Melissa, can't help you there. I poked around in those files and I can see the "if" statements, but I don't speak PHP, just HTML and CSS. Did you try emailing the guy who claims he can do it??
Same here, no php just html. I tried emailing him and explained that I wasn't familiar with php, but if he told me exactly what to change, I could do it. Well the response I got was if you read the whole thread, I gave the solution. So, not much helpfrom that corner. I think I'll just try your solution for now.
Thanks,
Melissa
http://store.equineshop.biz

saddlebred:

Same here, no php just html. I tried emailing him and explained that I wasn't familiar with php, but if he told me exactly what to change, I could do it. Well the response I got was if you read the whole thread, I gave the solution. So, not much helpfrom that corner. I think I'll just try your solution for now.
Thanks,
Melissa
http://store.equineshop.biz

There's no way in hell I would answer someones email like that. It takes more energy to be an *** than it does to be nice.

I have read this thread several times all the way through. They gave a VAGUE solution to those of us who are not mightier than thou because we don't know PHP. It's obvious certain people aren't interested in helping anyone but themselves. Sounds like a winner. Had I received a reply like that, I would have offered some choice words. But thats just me. I don't put up with that kind of crap. If I ever find out anything, you'll be the first to know Melissa. :smile:

Thanks. Yes, the solutions were very vague. Maybe someday I'll be able to figure it out on my own, but when you're still learning, a little help is appreciated.
Melissa
http://store.equineshop.biz

I read this whole thread and didn't find an answer so I'm going to ask...

Is there a way to remove the "Newsletter and Email Details" on the log in page? I don't want to just remove the checkbox, I want to remove the section altogether. The idea is I want customers to get to the payment page as fast as possible and just glide through the whole create account section. Just that little bit less reading and input.

Ok I have posted in this forum before when it was first started. (about forever ago) i have been doing some studying on php and html. I have learned it for the most part and still am... When at school I came acrossed some basic php scripting that allows the server (for you that dont know what I am talking about, the server is the host that your stores is installed on for the most part.) to give and store cookies sessions, and when the visitor leaves the cookies are erased and the customers was only faced with entering their payment information to complete the transaction. :yes:

I have yet to look at the code that all this fuss is about, But i am sure there is a way around the registering part of it... In my opinion after all this time. It is not a good idea to completely remove the login and registration area. TMaybe eliminating some required feilds but not eliminating the whole deal.

Before I get into this subject alittle more I am going to take a look at the code and see what I can do to it. I am sure there as been people out there with more know how than me that has tried, but hey it never hurts. If all else fails. Zen-cart is a OS sytem and anyone is able to alter any files or the whole thing if they are wanting to. I might just have another project coming alone that will make the people happy.........

For you guys that dont agree at all eliminating the login and registration page, and are feeling jolly to rip me a new one just stick to your ways,:lol: its not like this is going to hurt you at all.

Well Just taking a quick look at the code the Zen-cart is written is and how is functions. this might be a long road for me. Ok the zen-cart team wrote the script over a period of time. why don't someone just rewrite what is there. it dont take a rocket scientist to do it. If you know php, html, xhtml and some JS and are interested in solving this once and for all pm me. I would not mind taking on this challenge.:lamo:

Why doesn't someone just put together a contribution for posting in the download section.

That way if people want it they can have it those that don't won't.

I've seen comments that it's really simple to accomplish (if that's the case) why not accomplish it and stop all the belly aching.

Just my humble 2 cents.

My Point too!!!!!!!!
When I get some time I am going to sit down and write something (possibly tonight sometime)

To pass some of the required fields I would imagine it would not be to hard. It all goes back to the basic form code```html
<input type=hidden name="required" value="fullname,email">

Since Zen-cart is ran from a login database it is going to take time for someone to come out with a zen-cart that does not require a login or register.

 But for now you will be able to get around required some required fields but not around the registering part of the process

Someone who wrote another excellent Zen mod is already working on a temporary solution to this until the Zen masters redo the checkout. I tested it for them a few days ago. The problem is that it is not a true pwa setup.

It works well, accept the welcome email still gets sent, so he's working on fixing that. It still stores them in the db. You'd have to manually delete them after you receive the order because if they ever try to order again with the same email address, it says they are already in the system. Then you have the issue of you not being able to delete them right away, they come back and order again, and they'll find out they ARE in the system and then they are pissed at you for lying to them. It's too bad Zen Cart uses the email address as the user name. Maybe we could change that? In order for any of this to work, we'd also need something in the admin that says whether or not the person entered a password at checkout, maybe an icon of some sort next to their name?

A few days ago I strayed from Zen and messed with OSC, which has pwa, and I liked it, but its just not ZEN. Although I personally think customers should just sign up, unfortunately a lot of them leave for this reason and we've got to fix this. My "solutions" in the previous posts help somewhat, but its still a problem.

It's too bad Zen Cart uses the email address as the user name. Maybe we could change that?

Hmmmmm.!

Amazon uses the email address as the user name.
Hotmail uses the email address as the user name.
paypal uses the email address as the user name.
e-bay uses the email address as the user name.
google uses the email address as the user name.
e-greetings uses the email address as the user name.

Hmmmmm.!

clydejones:

Hmmmmm.!

Amazon uses the email address as the user name.
Hotmail uses the email address as the user name.
paypal uses the email address as the user name.
e-bay uses the email address as the user name.
google uses the email address as the user name.
e-greetings uses the email address as the user name.

Hmmmmm.!

I understand that, but I'm saying for the purpose of solving our temporary problem until its available in Zen. Geez!

We could just as easily list a lot of sites that don't use the email address too.

And which Ebay are you using? Because the one I use has you enter your user name.

This has been a "temporary problem" for at least the past year.

clydejones:

This has been a "temporary problem" for at least the past year.

I say temporary because it is planned for the 1.5 release. Unfortunately, we need it fixed as soon as we can. Don't get me wrong, I am so grateful to everyone for Zen Cart and have donated small amounts here and there when I can. I understand how busy everyone is. It would just be nice if we could figure something out among ourselves for the time being. I don't know how to code anything like this, but I'd like to think I can at least help by offering possible solutions, albeit temporary ones.

On my login page I have succeeded in removing all but the bare essentials necessary to make an order, plus a password. Just involved editing a bit of code. Check out what I've done if you're interested, and if you need help to work out how to acheive the same, just email me.

I also realised I dont need all 3 Checkout steps, so I have tried to reduce them to just the third step, using different workarounds to make sure all relevant information is still input. I have changed all the relevant values that I can see, to ensure that when an item is bought, the user goes from "shopping cart" to "login" to "checkout step 3".

BUT!! I spent about 3 hours trying to make sure I did it all right. However, when I buy an item, and log in, it always directs me back to step 1... I tried removing the anti-hack code in the header.php file for checkout_confirmation but that didn't do it. I've removed all references to checkout_shipping from every file that could be having an effect. And still nothing! Does anyone know what I should be changing to make sure that, from the "log in" page, I go directly to the "checkout step 3"? Oh another quirk, if you're already logged in and try to buy something, you DO go to the checkout page 3 :cry:

Well! If anyone has any ideas please let me know. For testing purposes (should anyone be so inclined) feel free to use the following user name:

[email protected]
password admin

P.S. I'd like to see anyone else's customised login screens, just to get a feel for what other people are doing, send me your links :blush:

Howdy ho folks! Well guess what... the checkout system didn't work... found some bugs so i'll completely redo what I did sometime... for now I've gone back to the original 3-step checkout :blush: Anyway, I didn't have any questions from anyone about how to make changes to the "login" page, so if you're shy, here's what you should do:

1. Turn off anything you don't want on your login page from Admin> Configuration> Customer Details.

2. Anything you can't turn off from the Admin, decide what you want to remove, then make a copy of "includes/templates/template_default/tpl_module_create_account.php" and place this copy in the "YOUR TEMPLATE/templates" directory.

3. Edit this file, and delete any information or questions you don't want to be displayed. Find the section you don't want and delete from "<label class=..." al the way to <br class="clearBoth" /> for that section.

4. Make a backup of "modules/pages/login/jscript_form_check.php" and remove references to any questions you removed from the create_account.php file. Repeat for "modules/pages/create_account/jscript_form_check.php". I can't remember which of these I altered, but I think both and it works great. Also, I didn't touch the password coding, so I can't tell you if just deleting the password references will mean you don't need it.

Ok well have fun folks! Remember, MAKE BACKUPS OF ALL THE FILES YOU WILL CHANGE, BEFORE YOU CHANGE THEM! And that way, if you make a mistake or something doesnt work, you can just upload your old files and there's no damage done.

Hope it helps some people!

barnamania:

Howdy ho folks! Well guess what... the checkout system didn't work... found some bugs so i'll completely redo what I did sometime... for now I've gone back to the original 3-step checkout :blush:

I've always wondered what customers hate more... having to click through several checkout pages or having to scroll through one long page. Does it really make a difference?

barnamania, sorry this didn't work out for you. :(

Nah... I had it reduced to a simple layout, with minimal information that the customer needed. I can't believe it didn't work! I've now lost 2 more customers somewhere in the checkout phase and it's getting really sad :P lol anyway I'm gonna work on this because it's something I really need, and I know other people do to, so check back soon and I might have something...

barnamania:

Nah... I had it reduced to a simple layout, with minimal information that the customer needed. I can't believe it didn't work! I've now lost 2 more customers somewhere in the checkout phase and it's getting really sad :P lol anyway I'm gonna work on this because it's something I really need, and I know other people do to, so check back soon and I might have something...

I wish you luck! I love Zen Cart to death, but I know sometimes it can be a pain in the butt!

craftzombie:

I wish you luck! I love Zen Cart to death, but I know sometimes it can be a pain in the butt!

Yeah! lol. Hey well after working all blooming day I now have a 1-step Checkout System!!!! The first ever 1-step zen cart maybe?? Sweet :D

Anyway so I tested it and retested it and it's all working great. You go from shopping cart to login to confirm order just like I wanted. I haven't set it up to work with anything other than a single shipping option and single payment option; and no option for gift certificates etc., but right now I don't need those options as some of my items are already at 50% discount, and I only use paypal and offer flat rate shipping. I might try to add those options some other time but for now... I'm taking a break!

If you want to see what I've done, use the user name I gave before ([email protected] / admin). I'm thinking about offering it on the "contributions" section, but have to test it further and make sure I didn't make any mega mistakes before I do.

Let me know what you think / how it could be improved. Have fun! :cool: