Auction Product Type

Sorry MCC - I clearly was confused... I cant think of why the mods would break the 1.3.7 mail. I didnt do anything to that package that touched the email. My test system DOES generate emails for OUTBID at the time of the OUTBID. It generates a WIN and LOSE message when someone looks at the page after the expiration time (which is annoying). Mine does NOT generate email when you place an initial BID (which is also annoying).

If I come across something, I will be sure to post it to you... I assume that a migration to the current code base isnt an easy option for you.

AHB

vivaraquel:

I deleted all the files related to this mod and restored the original files which were changed. I also deleted the db tables associated with this mod.

However, the 2 products which I had set as an auction product can't be viewd in the catalog and can't be deleted even though they exist in the admin.

How do I get rid of them and the admin>configuration>auction manager form my admin?

Thank you.

Interesting... sounds like a DB data problem.

The auction product does create a couple of new tables, but it also adds stuff to existing tables. I think there is where the problem is.

The way I would do it is by carefully removing the products from the "products" table. If you are NOT comfortable diddling directly with the DB (or finding someone who is) you will need to uninstall the product and DB and reinstall the base ZC then install the mod ontop.

Since this is a test system I am sure ;-) the easiest thing to do is uninstall the whole thing and start again. I do that on a fairly regular basis these days.

AHB

I would tend to agree with that...
I have found on several mods that the installation was dependent on the table prefix standard of zen_ , and during installation of the cart a different prefix was chosen, so I then found the files that were making calls to the DB looking for zen_ and changed them to the one that was being used.
Mostly it will throw a sql error and it makes it very easy to locate and fix the problem.

ok, what i did was to use all of bramnick files, except that I used the original
./includes/application_top.php
./includes/classes/shopping_cart.php
from the 0.95 release for zen v 1.3.7, all seems to work fine, so far, so my question is this, can the "Buy It Now" feature be removed once a bid is made?
Andy

Hey Bramnick, no apologies necessary! :) you are much in demand here so easy to get confused.

The clean install on my zen worked well (wholesale site) its the install over the old install (retail site) that I am having issue with. Maybe I will have to break out winmerge and compare to see if some code on my old one was changed? I would think the new one would over write, but I am not good at this stuff. Scares me to death...ROFL

Thanks again though......i love the way you updated the mod. Good job!!

I MUST agree with mooncavecrystals,
you have done great things here and you are very much appreciated, so
Thank you Bramnick :clap:

ok, this is out of my comfort zone, but........
how exactly does one uninstall something? Am thinking I would want to uninstall the old auction stuff and keep the new stuff? or uninstall the old auction stuff and reinstall the new?

This is way over my head.......LOL :blink:

AndyII:

ok, what i did was to use all of bramnick files, except that I used the original
./includes/application_top.php
./includes/classes/shopping_cart.php
from the 0.95 release for zen v 1.3.7, all seems to work fine, so far, so my question is this, can the "Buy It Now" feature be removed once a bid is made?
Andy

Andy,
I dont think that would be too hard, but is that really what everyone would want?? It might make sense to hide the Buy it Now button once the bid price reaches the Buy it Now price since that button would be a problem (we wouldnt want someone Buying it Now for $10 if the current bid is now $11!).

I will have to think about this one...

Good idea

AHB

mooncavecrystals:

ok, this is out of my comfort zone, but........
how exactly does one uninstall something? Am thinking I would want to uninstall the old auction stuff and keep the new stuff? or uninstall the old auction stuff and reinstall the new?

This is way over my head.......LOL :blink:

Which version to you have installed? If it is 0.95, then you need a small change to the DB to upgrade you to 0.97. I posted a the SQL earlier in this forum.

Other than that, the 0.97 should drop right on top of the 0.95 version

I will warn you that the 0.95 package had a lot of extra stuff in it. I removed what I didnt need which made it much smaller. Leaving the extra files around wont hurt anything, but trash is trash, so I understand why you want to remove it.

So... In summary
to get from 0.95 to 0.97 is a small DB change (see earlier posting) AND then drop the existing 0.97 files on top of 0.95 files. (After you backup everything including the DB and try this out on a test system of course) :blush:

AHB

yea, that would work just great! :yes:
hide the Buy it Now button once the bid price reaches the Buy it Now price.
wait till everyone finds out about the update, might get real busy here in this thread.
I started looking at this in October 2007, and almost gave up on it, so glad you decided to do this.....

bramnick:

Andy,
I dont think that would be too hard, but is that really what everyone would want?? It might make sense to hide the Buy it Now button once the bid price reaches the Buy it Now price since that button would be a problem (we wouldnt want someone Buying it Now for $10 if the current bid is now $11!).

I will have to think about this one...

Good idea

AHB

So here is the good news... The system does this already... when the current bid price exceeds the buy it now price, the option to buy it now goes away.

I should have looked before i posted... oh well

AHB

was going to go test that theory before I saw your post, but cant less I sign up as a customer lol, forgot you took away the ability to bid against your self (which is good)
now see if you can help with this, auction set for a starting bid of $.25 with .10 increments, now when I bid and take it, the Current high bid doesn't reflect the high bidders bid...?
it says this

Auction ends in 0 days 0 hours 47 minutes - 1 Bids Current Highest Bid: $0.25 You are the current high bidder!

The minimum bid increase is $0.10 Buy Now Price $4.95 Action 20 Previous Bids $0.35 - Bidder ID: 1

bramnick:

So here is the good news... The system does this already... when the current bid price exceeds the buy it now price, the option to buy it now goes away.

I should have looked before i posted... oh well

AHB

AndyII:

was going to go test that theory before I saw your post, but cant less I sign up as a customer lol, forgot you took away the ability to bid against your self (which is good)
now see if you can help with this, auction set for a starting bid of $.25 with .10 increments, now when I bid and take it, the Current high bid doesn't reflect the high bidders bid...?
it says this

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Auction ends in 0 days 0 hours 47 minutes - 1 Bids Current Highest Bid: $0.25 You are the current high bidder!

The minimum bid increase is $0.10 Buy Now Price $4.95 Action 20 Previous Bids $0.35 - Bidder ID: 1

So I was wrong... application_top.php has 2 cute lines at the end that check for expired auctions. The original programmer was clever. So long as anyone loads any page on the site, the auction DB is scanned for closed auctions. If it finds any it processes them.

Now onto your problem:
You CAN log on as 2 people at the same time if you use 2 browsers. So use IE to logon to 1 user and Firefox to logon to the other. That is how I test, I bid one against the other.

I will need to reproduce your issue, but I need to know what you set the auction items to...

Is there a Buy it now price?
Is there a reserve?

Send me all the settings so I can see what you did and then i can play

Cheers!
AHB :frusty:

OK i see it... I will need to look at it..

I also want to change the status of a closed auction item so that it doesnt appear in the catalog anymore (prevents closed auctions from filling up the screen).

How long after the auction close should I wait before i mark the status as unavailable do you think? Remember, once i change the status no one but the admin will be able to see it....

Maybe I should change the status after it is paid for???

Thoughts?

AHB

a certain amount of closed auctions are good. this gives others a chance to see what they missed :laugh:
status , good question, although admin can disable that status anyway, so not sure, I''l most likely keep them visible for a while then either disable the status or delete them...

The original programmer was clever. So long as anyone loads any page on the site, the auction DB is scanned for closed auctions. If it finds any it processes them.
Correct, I made an auction, made a bid, didn't return to the site until after auction end, just went to the index page and immediately received the email notice , so, in a perfect world, or at least if the site has any viewers, then it will process the closed auctions.
might be ok as is without a cron, most of the time....lol

bramnick, when you come back on, I see in the info after auction end the persons name...did I get something wrong?
also as you can see, the real winning bid was $0.35
with bidder ID: 1 and my name, hmmm :dontgetit

Bidding Over Auction Winner: Andy Andy Winning Bid: $0.25 Congratulations, you are the winning bidder!
Action 20 Previous Bids $0.35 - Bidder ID: 1

AndyII:

bramnick, when you come back on, I see in the info after auction end the persons name...did I get something wrong?
also as you can see, the real winning bid was $0.35
with bidder ID: 1 and my name, hmmm :dontgetit

Very cool

No, you didnt do anything wrong. There is clearly another module that needs to be changed to not print the name. I will need to track that down (along with the price thing). Both of which are probably small changes...

And here I thought I got this working :(

Cheers!
AHB

On the contrary, you have given NEW life to this mod, and revived hopes again. :clap:
so much more is working and this is all good :cool:

bramnick:

Very cool

No, you didnt do anything wrong. There is clearly another module that needs to be changed to not print the name. I will need to track that down (along with the price thing). Both of which are probably small changes...

And here I thought I got this working :(

Cheers!
AHB

AndyII:

bramnick, when you come back on, I see in the info after auction end the persons name...did I get something wrong?
also as you can see, the real winning bid was $0.35
with bidder ID: 1 and my name, hmmm :dontgetit

OK I am making progress..

I changed the code so that the current price shown in the summaries is the current high bid... I did this by updating the "starting price" each time the bid is raised. It made sense to me anyway. There is an odd side effect that I am tracking down, but I think we will be ok

I am looking at the pricing problem (0.35 vs 0.25) that you found. The funny thing is that if the bid reaches $1 all is well. I will figure it out sooner or later.

I am also working on a cron job. I really dont like the fact that EVERY page view of the store seaches for expired auctions. It isnt an efficient design, especially as that table starts to get large. I dont have that working yet. I know how to do with with a HUGE hack. I am trying to stay away from that.

stay tuned

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