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26 Aug 2006, 11:14 AM
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Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

My webpage https://www.populuxebooks.com takes an average of 6 to 8 seconds to load. I've searched the forums and tried different tips and suggestions to enable it to speed up but nothing has helped. My hosting company is dreamhost and their latest report says that both servers are running well.

Is it possible that in revising the classic template I have done something incorrect that causes the lag? The admin area is slow as well.

I know this is a problem that is hard to track down but any help would be appreciated.

26 Aug 2006, 2:12 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

Please do not PM for support issues: a private solution doesn't benefit the community.

Be careful with unsolicited advice via email or PM - Make sure the person you are talking to is a reliable source.

26 Aug 2006, 6:16 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

Kim:

http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/wso.php?url=http://www.populuxebooks.com/

Optimize your images and that will make a huge difference.

I've made all the images 16k or less and load time is still the same.

Is there any way to check and see if it's zen cart or if it's the server? At least that way I could narrow the problem down.

I still get that warning from the web page speed report about image size but it gives the same warning to many differant web pages including the main page of this forum, all of which load at normal speed.

26 Aug 2006, 6:23 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

What stats do you see in your page footer if you turn on Admin->Configuration->Logging->Display The Page Parse Time ?

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26 Aug 2006, 6:25 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

It's turned on now.

Parse Time: 2.375 - Number of Queries: 210 - Query Time: -1.5933552147675

edit: parse time goes up to 3.8 or so at times

26 Aug 2006, 6:34 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

Some pages go up to 9.8 for a parse time.

26 Aug 2006, 7:08 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

16k for a thumbnail is still much larger than required for a small image....and 16k times 10 pictures plus other items is getting large but this still should load relatively fast.

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26 Aug 2006, 8:10 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

Ok then, I can make them super small size if there's a way to get rid of the "larger image" picture in the product description.

27 Aug 2006, 2:50 AM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

If you truly want to not see that image on the product page, then you can edit the template to remove it:
/includes/templates/YOURTEMPLATE/templates/tpl_product_info_display.php
approx line 52 contains:require($template->get_template_dir('/tpl_modules_main_product_image.php',DIR_WS_TEMPLATE, $current_page_base,'templates'). '/tpl_modules_main_product_image.php'); ?>Simply put two slashes in front of it, like this: ```
// require($template->get_template_dir('/tpl_modules_main_product_image.php',DIR_WS_TEMPLATE, $current_page_base,'templates'). '/tpl_modules_main_product_image.php'); ?>



If you would rather that the image was displayed elsewhere on the page, you could move the section of code elsewhere within the file:```
<!--bof Main Product Image -->
<?php
  if (zen_not_null($products_image)) {
  ?>
<?php
/**
 * display the main product image
 */
   require($template->get_template_dir('/tpl_modules_main_product_image.php',DIR_WS_TEMPLATE, $current_page_base,'templates'). '/tpl_modules_main_product_image.php'); ?>
<?php
  }
?>
<!--eof Main Product Image-->

If you simply wanted the image to display smaller, you could change the size of the "medium" image in Admin->Configuration->Images

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27 Aug 2006, 3:32 AM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

ok, i've made all the images on the front page 2k or less except for the header which is 16k. Load time is still slow. Is there any other suggestions floating around that I can try out?

DrByte, I'm unsure what the parse times show, could you let me know if it shows something that I can do to help the site?

27 Aug 2006, 3:53 AM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

I just tried it fresh:
Parse Time: 5.151 - Number of Queries: 211 - Query Time: 2.5286067775116

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27 Aug 2006, 4:12 AM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

Are those numbers good or bad?

27 Aug 2006, 4:22 AM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

They're not great, but not overly bad either. The parse time is not ideal, and suggests a slow or poorly-tuned server (as far as running a database-intensive application for eCommerce, such as Zen Cart)

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27 Aug 2006, 3:53 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

Based on the number of products on your site and the speeds, I'd say that your MySQL is not configured ideally ...

Either you are on an overloaded server or your hosting site has not configued MySQL to run properly with memory or cache ...

To test what is slowing down your site ... turn off the Google sidebox and navigate through your site ...

Does this change the load times?

Next, turn off the Google analytic ...

Does this change the load times?

If turning off Google does not significantly speed up your site ... then you need to speak to your hosting site about the load on the server you are on and whether or not they are optimally configured for MySQL ...

I have a 700,000 product test site that runs faster ... :eek:

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27 Aug 2006, 4:11 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

Edit: Nvm

Does your site view properly in Opera? Why not?

27 Aug 2006, 4:59 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

Ajeh, what hosting company are you with? I still have time to get a refund on dreamhost and change to a differant company

27 Aug 2006, 5:31 PM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

To avoid favortisim ... I will drop you a PM ... :smile:

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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

Ajeh, if you have time, drop a PM too.:) I think I'm going to start looking for a new host.

29 Sep 2006, 12:48 AM
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Re: Is my site slow because I'm using redone classic template?

Can you please PM me your host as well? I too have terrible load times and i've tried many different hosts.

Also, what do you mean by optimally configured MySQL? I've never configured it, and have no idea what to say to my hosting company to try and determine the problem.

Thanks!