Better Together Contribution Support Thread

Hi Scott,

Finally able to initiate using this mod on a live store. I have set up so Product A displays: "buy this and receive product B at 25% off". And that works.

I wonder if there is any way to make an associated note on the Product B page, that if "you buy Product B with product A then you receive a 25% discount on product B". So buyers of both products would be made aware of the available bundle deal?

I could set up a similar discount on the product B page but then when the customer checks out they receive TWO discounts.

Hope this is clear. Any recommends on this?

2. Also I would like to setup a "buy product A and B, then you get product C free" scenario. Is that possible?

Woody

(2) is unlikely, but (1) is an interesting idea. Let me noodle on this.

Thanks,
Scott

Woodymon:

I could set up a similar discount on the product B page but then when the customer checks out they receive TWO discounts.

Would you please double check this? I thought I coded it in such a way as to guard against this.
(Not that this is a workable solution for the specific problem you have - it would be a terrible pain to maintain these symmetric lists of associations. I just want to be sure you're allowed to do it and don't get the astonishing result of a double discount!)

Thanks,
Scott

swguy:

Would you please double check this? I thought I coded it in such a way as to guard against this.
(Not that this is a workable solution for the specific problem you have - it would be a terrible pain to maintain these symmetric lists of associations. I just want to be sure you're allowed to do it and don't get the astonishing result of a double discount!)

Thanks for the follow-up Scott,

Sorry if I was not clear. I was making a presumption that if I set-up a discount on one product and then also set-up a discount on the other product, I would receive two discounts.

So to test this I just set-up:
$this->add_prod_to_prod(A, B, "%", 25);
$this->add_prod_to_prod(B, A, "%", 25);

And I added both products to my shopping cart and checkout shows only one discount applied! Cool!

Questions:

What controls which discount would apply (say product A is $14 and product B is $12. Would the 25% discount be $3.50 or $3.00? What is the criteria for calculating the basis of the discount in this scenario? By the order the products are added to customer shopping cart?

Yes it would be great, if when setting up a discount, which directly involves two products, the bundle discount availability would be promoted on both product description pages.

And would be cool if such special could be displayed on product listing (category) pages or on the featured products page per example (since we have only few products we display all products on home page in Featured Products listing in center column).

Maybe add a red asterisk to the price (*) and a legend at the top and bottom of the listing show:

• = special bundle price available (see product page)

But I can see supporting such as above would add additional complexibility to the mod. But as Borat would say, that would be "very nice". ;-)

And yes the idea of being able to bundle more than two products together has much appeal (e.g. buy A and B get C for free).

Woody

Woodymon:

Questions:

What controls which discount would apply (say product A is $14 and product B is $12. Would the 25% discount be $3.50 or $3.00? What is the criteria for calculating the basis of the discount in this scenario? By the order the products are added to customer shopping cart?

No - by the order you code them in the setup() function. But believe it or not, some clients asked me to modify this logic and apply all possible discounts! (The Crazy Eddies of e-commerce.)

I'm working on the "reverse" marketing logic- should be able to release this weekend. Stay tuned!

Scott

swguy:

No - by the order you code them in the setup() function.

Let me clarify this answer: since Better Together 1.2, the order has been two-for-ones first, then better together linkages in the order specified in setup(). Prior to this it was just by the order specified in the setup.

Scott

Better Together 1.3 was just approved for download.

Please be sure to update the marketing text on your product info page per the instructions to get the "reverse" discount upsell text (thanks to Woody for the suggestion). Please also be sure to merge any changes you made to the language file, as that was updated also.

Thanks,
Scott

Hi all,

is it possible to make something like this:

by 5xA and get 1xB free

Stefan

This would be custom logic. PM me for details.

Scott

Yes, I would also be interested in knowing how to do it too:

Buy 5 of this product, get one free.

swguy:

Better Together 1.3 was just approved for download.

Please be sure to update the marketing text on your product info page per the instructions to get the "reverse" discount upsell text (thanks to Woody for the suggestion). Please also be sure to merge any changes you made to the language file, as that was updated also.

Scott,

Thanks for the 1.3 update. Just installed on Zen Cart 1.37 and works great. The ability to display the "reverse" discount on the 'other' product is very nice.

Still would like to be able to set up the following scenarios:

Buy product A and product B then get 50% off product C.
-and-
Buy product A and product B then product C for free.

I'm certain this is 'custom' code so I will PM you ;-)

Thanks again for the BT 1.3 mod update. I highly highly recommended it.

Woody

Glad you like it. I will give your "threeway" idea more consideration. It's a good idea - I'm just worried people will be overwhelmed by the number of permutations.

Scott

Hi ,

I've installed the contrib.
prod_toprod works fine but cat_to_cat doens't.

I've read this thread completely and tried/checked all the suggested solutions but none semms to fix it with me. I am sure I am using version version 1.3.5, but I can't find a place to check this ;-) . Pleasea advise...

But still I am stuck installing this great contrib...

Regards,

viepie
Belgium

Generally when people are having category problems either they're specifying a top level category for products in a subcategory, or their category numbers are bad in the database because they loaded with EasyPopulate and didn't fix their data afterwards. Take a look at the FAQ; both issues are discussed.

Scott

Is it possible to use this mod with no discounts offered and just the suggested item with pic?
Thanks!!
~Renee

I guess it's theoretically possible. You'd probably have to change the strings and maybe the code that produces them, because they're set up to display a discount.

Scott

That doesn't sound hopeful ..lol

Is there a better one to use? I have installed upsell/cross sell and no one seems to be able to tell me how to use it as it does not show in admin. I'm at a loss but need to get this for a customer so I have to find one that will work :)

~Renee

Does this work with SEO urls?

Too late to edit ( man that bugs me 7 minutes :sleepy: )

SEO urls are fine. My product tpl is another story.:laugh: Has anyone found a way to include this in tabbed lite as a tab yet?

Initially I installed the free Better Together mod and saw that it had potential, but I wanted to support multiple catagory levels so I purchased the Better Togetther Multi catagory contribution along with his Cart Candy, and Discount Preview mods.

What great support and fantastic mods. The first day I had them running on the site, I made new sales to new customers who were driven to my site for a specific product by the manufacturer.

This happens daily (new customers for the single item), and I have been struggling to convert these customers into buying other products.

I installed these mods, and immediately had additional product sales that I tracked directly to these mods.

Thank you so much Scott. These modes are fantastic. Keep up the good work.