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11 Oct 2006, 6:43 AM
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ssl: godaddy or geotrust

I am trying to decide on an SSL certificate provider.

I am hosting with opensourcehost.com and I am very satisfied with their service
They offer a geotrust ssl for $65 a year and with a dedicated IP at $2 per month.
https://www.opensourcehost.com/mos452/content/view/7/32/

I am also in the market for a couple more domain names and if I purchase my ssl from godaddy then I can get the domains for $2 a piece and godaddy has the turbo ssl which is less than $20 per year.
https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/ssl/ssl.asp?isc=ffsearch&se=%2B&ci=271

my concern I suppose is that the geotrust ssl is probably the same as the turbo because opensourcehost has assurred me that they won't need to verify my company info or anything besides the info I used to sign up for the hosting.

I am trying to get a merchant account right now through cardservices international so I will need an ssl soon. will either of the ssl's described above work for the merchant card service.

so do I save money and go with the whole godaddy thing? or am I better off with opensource host and geotrust?

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11 Oct 2006, 7:10 AM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

if its only going to verify your domain, there's no need to spend $65 when you can get the same protection with a certificate that costs 1/3 of the price. I currently run a GoDaddy SSL cert, and it works perfectly fine. Will know if it works w/ the linkpoint stuff within a day or two, but I don't see why it won't

If you want a better looking SSL banner though, go for the Geotrust one :). Godaddy's looks cheap, which is why I don't even put it on the site

11 Oct 2006, 9:48 AM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

mafiasam, you know I've heard a lot of unpleasant feedbacks about GoDaddy. I don't know if they are true or not but if you're all right with your presentday host there is no need to change it.I'd stick to what I have.:yes:

11 Oct 2006, 9:50 AM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

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mafiasam, you know I've heard a lot of unpleasant feedbacks about GoDaddy. I don't know if they are true or not but if you're all right with your presentday host there is no need to change it.I'd stick to what I have.:yes:

OH I'm not talking about hosting. I will not change my host. I love opensourcehost. I'm just talking about the SSL.

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11 Oct 2006, 9:52 AM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

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if its only going to verify your domain, there's no need to spend $65 when you can get the same protection with a certificate that costs 1/3 of the price. I currently run a GoDaddy SSL cert, and it works perfectly fine. Will know if it works w/ the linkpoint stuff within a day or two, but I don't see why it won't

If you want a better looking SSL banner though, go for the Geotrust one :). Godaddy's looks cheap, which is why I don't even put it on the site

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I agree totally. Please let me know what happens with the whole linkpoint launch and the compatibility. That was another one of my concerns.

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12 Oct 2006, 6:38 AM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

mafiasam, shame on me:blush: . I didn't undersatand what you meant.
As far as I know GoDaddy's SSL cert. merchant account works well. You won't have issues with it. Surely there is no sense paying 65$ if you can get the same protection for the less price.

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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

http://www.positivessl.com/
Excellent value SSL's also available from above
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12 Oct 2006, 7:44 AM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

thanks dioniss
I agree, I purchased my original domain name through goddady and had no problems at all.

and thanks misty. i'm looking into http://www.positivessl.com/
interesting - free trial - i like that

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14 Oct 2006, 7:25 PM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

okay I did a little more brushing up on the SSL's I was considering.

godaddy - turbo - cheap - 17.99 a year for two year contract - otherwise 19.99
this is a low assurance certificate with a $1000 warranty*** and cheesy looking seal

positivessl - positive ssl - cheaper with a 30 day free trial - 14.99 per year*** - low assurance - no warranty - good looking seal***

positivessl - instant ssl - 79.95 per year - $10,000 warranty - high assurance (full site and company authorization) - free 30 day trial*** - great looking seal with a trustlogo***

geotrust - quickssl - $189 per year through geotrust - $65 per year through my host**** - $10,000 warranty - high assurance - my host will install it*** - has a good looking seal with the word trust in it***

so the geotrust actually looks like the winner here. I mean if I'm going to go through the process of securing my site I guess it's worth more than $5 per month but if my host can help me keep the costs down and get me a more verifiable and accountable option then I'm all for it.

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14 Oct 2006, 7:28 PM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

thats good to hear man, glad you got a choice made :)

with my store, theres probably never going to be a single order over $1000, much less $150. I don't display the seal because its cheesy looking but I tell my customers that its secured, and they can check it too but clicking the lock and stuff like that. I didn't have too much $$ at the time to spend on SSL to I chose GoDaddy, but eventually I may upgrade to something better (like when sales increase :))

14 Oct 2006, 8:54 PM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

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thats good to hear man, glad you got a choice made :)

with my store, theres probably never going to be a single order over $1000, much less $150. I don't display the seal because its cheesy looking but I tell my customers that its secured, and they can check it too but clicking the lock and stuff like that. I didn't have too much $$ at the time to spend on SSL to I chose GoDaddy, but eventually I may upgrade to something better (like when sales increase :))

yeah, my orders are generaly under $100 and have been few and far between but I know I'm getting traffic and extended page views so maybe the visitors are leaving for reasons other than just not finding what they like and I have to attempt to see if my payment system and security on the site might be a problem. And I do have poker chip sets for a $1000 and poker tables for over $2000.

I was close to choosing the godaddy but this just seemed more convenient and actually more sensible for me.

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15 Oct 2006, 5:19 AM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

I currently have the GoDaddy Turbo SSL seal on my site...does it really look so cheesy that I should remove it?

15 Oct 2006, 6:05 AM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

i personally don't like the seal.. you're better off with a custom made seal that fits the colors of your site as well. Something with "secured by starfield technologies" and an image of a lock would be good enough, and then you can have a "click here to verify" if you wanted to.

I do love the way you put your site together though :)

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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

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i personally don't like the seal.. you're better off with a custom made seal that fits the colors of your site as well. Something with "secured by starfield technologies" and an image of a lock would be good enough, and then you can have a "click here to verify" if you wanted to.

I do love the way you put your site together though :)

I was thinking about doing my own seal too but I don't know if you can; is that possible?

and thanks about the site. did a new logo today. was waiting for the ssl but I guess it'll have to be monday before I take on that whole mess and the linkpoint installation. that's gonna be fun.

i was trying to find a dropshipper a while back for video game consoles. have you looked into that?

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15 Oct 2006, 8:09 AM
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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

i know that D&H drop ships Xbox360 at this time, not sure what other consoles they do. Locally there is a "Video by Cycling" distribution center, which is owned by D&H if i'm not mistaken.. they drop ship :P

The stuff I get though is straight from Hong Kong and China.. I didn't want to sign up yet with D&H because I was afraid of minimum orders per month and stuff.. so just gaining some traffic with the accessories right now and eventually I'll start investing in games

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i know that D&H drop ships Xbox360 at this time, not sure what other consoles they do. Locally there is a "Video by Cycling" distribution center, which is owned by D&H if i'm not mistaken.. they drop ship :P

The stuff I get though is straight from Hong Kong and China.. I didn't want to sign up yet with D&H because I was afraid of minimum orders per month and stuff.. so just gaining some traffic with the accessories right now and eventually I'll start investing in games

cool i'll check that out. i'd like to get some of the poker and old west video games to offer on the site. it would be cool to be able to offer the consoles as well maybe as a package. just a thought. i have way too many ideas.

you've got a great domain name for your site. have you got all the google webmaster stuff set up for it? i have analytics, google base, sitemap and adwords.

that looks like it's going to really help when the traffic starts coming in. right now it's too soon to tell how it's going to work. only been live for a little over a month. and i'm not sure how the ssl and merchant card services is going to affect the sales. i'm sure it will. almost 90% of my customers are first time visitors but if they don't see that ssl etc i think they tend to fly. poker players are usually pretty knowledgeable about web shopping.

good luck with your site. i'm going to keep an eye on it. i have an old xbox that went south. the 360 or the new playstation is my next purchase.

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Re: ssl: godaddy or geotrust

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i personally don't like the seal.. you're better off with a custom made seal that fits the colors of your site as well. Something with "secured by starfield technologies" and an image of a lock would be good enough, and then you can have a "click here to verify" if you wanted to.

I do love the way you put your site together though :)

So it would be ok for me to make my own seal?

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cool i'll check that out. i'd like to get some of the poker and old west video games to offer on the site. it would be cool to be able to offer the consoles as well maybe as a package. just a thought. i have way too many ideas.

you've got a great domain name for your site. have you got all the google webmaster stuff set up for it? i have analytics, google base, sitemap and adwords.

that looks like it's going to really help when the traffic starts coming in. right now it's too soon to tell how it's going to work. only been live for a little over a month. and i'm not sure how the ssl and merchant card services is going to affect the sales. i'm sure it will. almost 90% of my customers are first time visitors but if they don't see that ssl etc i think they tend to fly. poker players are usually pretty knowledgeable about web shopping.

good luck with your site. i'm going to keep an eye on it. i have an old xbox that went south. the 360 or the new playstation is my next purchase.

That's actually a good idea.. kind of widen the horizon so to speak. You'll be catering to more customers, not just people who like poker but also people who may not like card games in person, only digitally :)

Thanks for the domain comment.. I asked a few of my friends to think up of some names and this was the best one that came out of the 5-6 of us.. so it stuck :D. I do have all the Google stuff set up for it, Analytics, Base, Sitemap, AdWords, and even Google hosted mail (since I love gmail). I'm currently not advertising with AdWords since I'm low on stock right now and awaiting more stuff, but its a good way to get people in the door. The best way, I've noticed because of the Analytics installed.. is Google base. Before I had that, I was getting about 1/2 my traffic from 2 sites and the rest was just random places where I post up on forums. After signing up with base.. 1/3rd of my traffic comes from Google.. and the other traffic amounts haven't changed.. only the proportions have

SSL.. I personally haven't noticed a change in sales because of it, but its always a good thing to have. When I started out I didn't have it, but after reading a ton about it here on ZC forums, I sprung to get a TurboSSL cert at the least. Cost me $17.99.. found a 10% coupon for GoDaddy online

Merchant services should help a lot though. There's quite a few people out there who don't know what paypal is and don't want to sign up with it, and are willing to just type in their card number. I've lost 2 sales because I only offered PayPal (though I did mark it as "credit card" also).. which is why I'm in the process of getting a merchant account.. I only knew of those 2 sales because they contacted me.. not sure how many others there are. And it doesn't help that PayPal changed the "Don't have a PayPal account? click here" text to "Don't have a PayPal account? Sign up now!".. at least the first way people could explore around and see if its required to sign up with one.

Hopefully that info helps.. kinda dragged on about it.. sorry!

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So it would be ok for me to make my own seal?

It should be.. I don't see why not. May want to review the GoDaddy TOS just in case, but I highly doubt they have anything against it (as long as you're not saying you have a different brand certificate.. ex. "Trusted by Verisign" but your cert is from GoDaddy)