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22 Nov 2010, 5:54 AM
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Australian GST (goods and services tax)

jazzah:

hi Rod, I did try and fix my post but the administrator would not allow me to!!

Here is a simple version

Sub-Total: $110.00

         Australia Post (Parcel under 250gm):  $6.05

GST (10% tax included): $10.55

  Total: $116.05

GST should be $11.60

Aha. As I suspected, the numbers are correct, it is the way that you are reading them that is incorrect. If you re-arrange the order of the output it may make more sense... as follows:

Sub-Total: $110.00
Australia Post (Parcel under 250gm): $6.05
Total: $116.05

  • Total includes $10.55 GST

Same item, non GST:
Sub-Total: $100.00
Australia Post (Parcel under 250gm): $5.50
Total $105.50
plus 10% GST $10.55
Gtand Total $116.05

jazzah:

GST should be $11.60

Not so. This is adding GST to the GST inclusive prices.

jazzah:

I am using your module of course! (what else would an Australian dare use!)

LOL.

jazzah:

I have Tax Class at 10% GST included selected in the module.

As you should, because it maximises your input credits. but please note that this setting only affects how the postage costs are reported, not the actual cost. Using the current example, postage is going to cost you $6.05 no matter what, but as a GST registered business you are entitled to claim 55cents back on your next BAS. The GST setting in the ozpost module causes it to take the GST inclusive price ($6.05) and 'toss away' the GST component (0.55), making an apparent postage cost of $5.50, so when zencart does its 'thing' and re-adds the GST, the postage cost ends back as per the original cost ($6.05) and the universal balance is maintianed

Anyway, as you can now (hopefully) see, the numbers are correct, and when exporting/importing to other formats/programs you should assume all prices include GST (therefore don't re-add by other application), and the GST amounts reported by zencart have already been added to the prices... the GST amounts shown being mostly for information/feedback use, and not to be re-added.

All make sense now?

Cheers
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22 Nov 2010, 5:55 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

jazzah:

hi Rod, I did try and fix my post but the administrator would not allow me to!!

Here is a simple version

Sub-Total: $110.00

         Australia Post (Parcel under 250gm):  $6.05

GST (10% tax included): $10.55

  Total: $116.05

GST should be $11.60
I am using your module of course! (what else would an Australian dare use!) Paid version. I have Tax Class at 10% GST included selected in the module.

If I unselect that setting I get $10 GST and the GST in the shipping is obviosult not taken into account.

Thanks
Junelle

First I know nothing about Rod's module
But on a total sales price of $116.05
The gst included in the price is 116.05/11 = $10.55

The only way to get $11.60 is 116.05/10 (which is incorrect)

So $10.55 is the correct GST included in the price
It appears Rod's mod is correct!
and your calculation isn't

Unless I am missing something else here.....
(I am sure Rod will correct me if I am)

6 Sep 2011, 11:04 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

Hi guys,

For my Australian online store, I am trying to work out how to hide the 'tax symbol' from the shopping cart items, a bit like how crazysales dot com dot au looks.

You will see that the subtotals are displayed with just the GST inclusive price and don't include the "Inc. GST". It tends to look a bit cleaner. Similarly, I just want to display the "Inc. GST" with the Total underneath the cart.

Has anyone achieved this ?

cheers,

adam

8 Sep 2011, 2:22 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

CaptainCarlton:

For my Australian online store, I am trying to work out how to hide the 'tax symbol' from the shopping cart items,

There's a 'tax symbol' somewhere? This is new to me.

CaptainCarlton:

a bit like how crazysales dot com dot au looks.

And we all instinctively know what crazysales dot com looks like don't we?

Oh, I see, you want us to go take a look for you.
Wouldn't it make more sense if you took a screenshot or made some other mockup of what you require, as opposed to directing us to some site that we may never have heard of, and then hoping we will be able to see what and where it is you are looking.

CaptainCarlton:

You will see that the subtotals are displayed with just the GST inclusive price and don't include the "Inc. GST". It tends to look a bit cleaner. Similarly, I just want to display the "Inc. GST" with the Total underneath the cart.

Has anyone achieved this ?

cheers,

adam

Quite frankly, I can't figure out exactly what you want to do. In one sentence you are stating that without "inc GST" it looks cleaner (which one would assume is what you want), but in the next sentence you state that you "want to display the Inc. GST".

I don't think it is possible to display it and not display it at the same time. Obviously I am mis-reading your question, but in my defense, the lack of any other responses would suggest that I'm not the only person confused as to what you are actually trying to do.

Anyway, before trying to clarify yourself check you setting under /configuration/my_store/Display Prices with Tax. This setting determines whether the prices are displayed with tax or not:smile:
Also check the 'description' entry under your Tax Rate settings for your GST entry. This setting defines the actual text that gets displayed ("GST", "Inc GST", "GST included", "TAX", etc, etc).

I'm guessing that between these two options you should be able to do what you are needing, whatever that may be.

Cheers
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8 Sep 2011, 3:36 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

Rod,

Sorry to get you all fired up like that, let me try again !

Attached is the screen shot of what I am trying to emulate. What I am hoping to do is hide my 'currency' symbol "Inc. GST" from the shopping cart contents, and just have it display on the total amount (just below the cart). I still want my product listings to show the "Inc. GST".

Also check the 'description' entry under your Tax Rate settings for your GST entry. This setting defines the actual text that gets displayed ("GST", "Inc GST", "GST included", "TAX", etc, etc)

I believe this text actually set in Localization > Currencies > Symbol Right

Hope this helps,

adam

8 Sep 2011, 7:16 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

CaptainCarlton:

let me try again

SIGH. Can you not read, or were my suggestions of no help?


Anyway** before trying to clarify yoursel**f check you setting under /configuration/my_store/Display Prices with Tax. This setting determines whether the prices are displayed with tax or not:smile:
Also check the 'description' entry under your Tax Rate settings for your GST entry. This setting defines the actual text that gets displayed ("GST", "Inc GST", "GST included", "TAX", etc, etc).

I'm guessing that between these two options you should be able to do what you are needing, whatever that may be.

No further posts coming. I've tried to help. I've been ignored.

Rod

5 Oct 2011, 2:51 PM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

hey rod, i've read your replies to peoples post, you've been quite helpful. :-)

2 Nov 2011, 5:57 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

hi guys i am only new to zen cart

i have set up all the zones and gst being 10%

but when i add a product i enter the price being $10ex gst. it adds 10% making it $11 inc gst.

thats fine

when i go to preview the product it has the price as being $11.71

can someone please tell me why its doing this

30 Nov 2011, 7:05 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

Hi,

The solution is simple. Go to Localization - > currencies. Set the Value column to 1 for Australian Dollar and make it as default.

Have any other issues PM me.

vikram

22 Feb 2014, 1:36 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

Hi everyone.

How would you go about adding the words "Tax Invoice" to the zen-cart invoice.
at the moment I have it under Configuration > My Store > Store Address and Phone.

the only problem is it appears on the contact us page.

anyone been able to achieve this.

Thanks

22 Feb 2014, 1:52 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

tenthilltoys:

Hi everyone.

How would you go about adding the words "Tax Invoice" to the zen-cart invoice.
at the moment I have it under Configuration > My Store > Store Address and Phone.

the only problem is it appears on the contact us page.

anyone been able to achieve this.

Thanks

Do you want it on the invoice in admin and live site ?

22 Feb 2014, 4:00 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

tenthilltoys:

Hi everyone.

How would you go about adding the words "Tax Invoice" to the zen-cart invoice.
at the moment I have it under Configuration > My Store > Store Address and Phone
the only problem is it appears on the contact us page.

anyone been able to achieve this.

Thanks

Hi Pete

open /YOUR_ADMIN/includes/languages/english/invoice.php

around line #47 : define('ENTRY_ORDER_ID','Tax Invoice No. ');

I would remove the wording from Configuration > My Store > Store Address and Phone so it does not show up elsewhere

Pete, did you get my email and phone message?

Cheers / Frank

22 Feb 2014, 6:25 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

Thankyou for the Help Frank all been done.

6 Dec 2017, 3:08 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

I have just come across this exact issue myself, i can process the order as a money order and no tax is on the order paperwork, yet it is showing in the cart.
The order total is however not including the 10% GST, although this is displayed correctly.
When trying to process the order via PayPal the order total is ZERO.
I have checked all the admin settings against another site that i have recently built and all are identical, so i cant see where the problem is.
I have replaced the ot_tax.php, ot_total.php and all the other ot_XXX.php files and the tax_rates.php, tax_classes.php files from a clean download of Zencart and this doesn't seem to have resolved the issue.
I am running Zencart 1.5.5e and Database Patch Level: 1.5.5, url is http://djidronestore.com.au
I have attached some screen captures
image 1) Cart
image 5) Checkout / Payment screen Order total, is not including the GST although this is calculated correctly
image 6) The order total is missing and when processing the order via paypal it show up error 10525 which is expected after reading the forumsAttachment 17516Attachment 17515

I have also deleted all the currency, tax and shipping settings in the hope that one of these was creating an issue.

really appreciate any help on getting this one fixed

Cheers

Murray

6 Dec 2017, 10:47 PM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

Muzza:

I have just come across this exact issue myself, i can process the order as a money order and no tax is on the order paperwork, yet it is showing in the cart.
The order total is however not including the 10% GST, although this is displayed correctly.
When trying to process the order via PayPal the order total is ZERO.
I have checked all the admin settings against another site that i have recently built and all are identical, so i cant see where the problem is.
I have replaced the ot_tax.php, ot_total.php and all the other ot_XXX.php files and the tax_rates.php, tax_classes.php files from a clean download of Zencart and this doesn't seem to have resolved the issue.
I am running Zencart 1.5.5e and Database Patch Level: 1.5.5, url is http://djidronestore.com.au
I have attached some screen captures
image 1) Cart
image 5) Checkout / Payment screen Order total, is not including the GST although this is calculated correctly
image 6) The order total is missing and when processing the order via paypal it show up error 10525 which is expected after reading the forums
I have also deleted all the currency, tax and shipping settings in the hope that one of these was creating an issue.

really appreciate any help on getting this one fixed

Cheers

Murray

You appear to be using a template named theme872, was that template obtained from Template Monster?

In your admin you may want to (temporarily) change your active template to the standard built-in responsive_classic template and then report back if the same "miscalculation" still appears.

Cheers / Frank

7 Dec 2017, 8:41 AM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

@Muzza, also take a look at my post #6 of this thread and apply those options.

7 Dec 2017, 11:26 PM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

Muzza:

I have just come across this exact issue myself, i can process the order as a money order and no tax is on the order paperwork, yet it is showing in the cart.
The order total is however not including the 10% GST, although this is displayed correctly.
When trying to process the order via PayPal the order total is ZERO.
I have checked all the admin settings against another site that i have recently built and all are identical, so i cant see where the problem is.
I have replaced the ot_tax.php, ot_total.php and all the other ot_XXX.php files and the tax_rates.php, tax_classes.php files from a clean download of Zencart and this doesn't seem to have resolved the issue.
I am running Zencart 1.5.5e and Database Patch Level: 1.5.5, url is http://djidronestore.com.au
I have attached some screen captures
image 1) Cart
image 5) Checkout / Payment screen Order total, is not including the GST although this is calculated correctly
image 6) The order total is missing and when processing the order via paypal it show up error 10525 which is expected after reading the forumsAttachment 17516Attachment 17515

I have also deleted all the currency, tax and shipping settings in the hope that one of these was creating an issue.

really appreciate any help on getting this one fixed

Cheers

Murray

frank18:

You appear to be using a template named theme872, was that template obtained from Template Monster?

In your admin you may want to (temporarily) change your active template to the standard built-in responsive_classic template and then report back if the same "miscalculation" still appears.

Cheers / Frank

Cheers, Frank i have tried this and still the same issue will try as suggested number #6 in the tread and see if that fixes the problem

Cheers

Murray

7 Dec 2017, 11:38 PM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

Muzza:

Cheers, Frank i have tried this and still the same issue will try as suggested number #6 in the tread and see if that fixes the problem

Cheers

Murray

YES !

Frank your a genius, worked like a dream, really appreciate it

Cheers and have a great day

Murray

7 Dec 2017, 11:40 PM
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Re: Australian GST (goods and services tax)

Muzza:

YES !

Frank your a genius, worked like a dream, really appreciate it

Cheers and have a great day

Murray

Excellent! Also make sure that the shipping module has the Basis of Tax set to Shipping (which is probably the case by now...)