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14 Mar 2007, 4:23 PM
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About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

Ok .... I have been having problems like .... cant change "sales message goes here" and other things related ... so I posted and was told to go into certian folders... couldn't ... so i got the new book .... which is great... my ? is ... because I have zen cart through bluevoda I dont have access to any folders, nothing was downloaded on my computer... I love zen cart... and I need it on my website... do I need to purchuse it seperatlly from bluevoda... I have access to admin tools but nothing else....?????:dontgetit

14 Mar 2007, 4:38 PM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

Are you saying that you do not have FTP access to your site? If that is a true statement then you need to find another host.

Please do not PM for support issues: a private solution doesn't benefit the community.

Be careful with unsolicited advice via email or PM - Make sure the person you are talking to is a reliable source.

14 Mar 2007, 4:39 PM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

you should have access to ALL of these files using FTP

You shouldnt have to PURCHASE ZC from anyone

if they dont actually give you ftp access to your files RUNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Zen cart PCI compliant Hosting

14 Mar 2007, 4:48 PM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

Next thing, you could find them pinching credit card numbers!:ohmy:

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14 Mar 2007, 5:17 PM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

If you installed ZC using something like Fantastico or your host installed it for you, go to the downloads section of this site and download it to your local drive. Unzip it there using something like WinZip and you'll be able to see the directory/file structure and create your own custom template which you can then FTP to your site.

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14 Mar 2007, 5:50 PM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

Mary, Dragonhorse is saying he doesn't have FTP access...

I can't see how one can administer zen cart properly without it :huh:

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14 Mar 2007, 6:12 PM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

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Mary, Dragonhorse is saying he doesn't have FTP access...

I can't see how one can administer zen cart properly without it :huh:

I'm not sure that's what he/she is saying. Some people expect to have access to the folders through the admin which isn't true and then they claim they have no access to anything to edit it.

If it's truly the case that the host doesn't give FTP access to the users, then it's time to change hosts.

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15 Mar 2007, 6:26 PM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

I took a look at it... BlueVoda is a WYSIWYG website editor, which requires hosting on the Voda servers to publish (i.e., once you have built your site, you can never move to another host.) It doesn't say anything about ZC in the promo; I suppose once you are in the host site they offer it.
I just wonder how this is supposed to work within ZC...

15 Mar 2007, 6:28 PM
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gjh42:

I took a look at it... BlueVoda is a WYSIWYG website editor, which requires hosting on the Voda servers to publish (i.e., once you have built your site, you can never move to another host.) It doesn't say anything about ZC in the promo; I suppose once you are in the host site they offer it.
I just wonder how this is supposed to work within ZC...

This seems to get worse by the day...

Sounds like a general alert to "avoid" is in order!

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15 Mar 2007, 6:58 PM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

24,000 MB Disk Space - Dell PowerEdge Servers!
600 GB Monthly Data Transfer - Go Crazy!
Free Domain Name Registration & Transfers
Unlimited Matching Email Accounts
Unlimited Domain Names and Websites Per Account
FrontPage Extensions & Dreamweaver Compatible
Affiliate Program Software included
CGI, PHP, MySQL with Unlimited Databases
Shopping Cart & Merchant Account

They offer ZC, osC & Cube Cart, with osC preinstalled on the cPanel. Oh boy! : ()
And I wonder who actually owns the "free" domain name?
They do have a link to FTP tutorials, though, so FTP access must be possible.

15 Mar 2007, 7:01 PM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

Linda... please... close this post... I'm goin' into melt-down!

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15 Mar 2007, 8:39 PM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

Tracie,

Look in your host's links for the FTP tutorial - that should help ypu with any host-specific issues.

Look in the wiki here (in Customisation - More Advanced) for the Making a local copy of your Web site article for details specific to ZC.

"nothing was downloaded on my computer... "
This is normal for a site installed on a hosted server. You can/should make your own copy for development (see above).

15 Mar 2007, 8:53 PM
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Linda... please... close this post... I'm goin' into melt-down!

Okay... let's be more serious, schoolboy - or it's detention. Dragonhorse needs assistance, and regardless of where the site is hosted, we'll try to help where we can.

Dragonhorse... can you specify exactly what you CAN and CAN'T do with this webhost.

It will be helpful to know if:-

  1. you have FTP access to your files
  2. you have a http-based Control Panel where you administer your domain
  3. you have access to your database - possibly through phpMyAdmin

If you want to operate a serious, professional webshop, you do actually need these services in place at your host.

Zen Cart is fun to use... but it's not a toy. If things ever go "wonky" in the future, you will need to have these services (1 to 3 above) in order to resolve problems. Afterall, you will be dealing with the public who will be paying you money and trusting you to deliver a product or service in return. Your customers will expect that you have built your website in a manner that assures security and privacy, and that you comply with laws that regulate distance-selling.

It's fantastic that you like zen cart, and that you want to start a webshop, but my advice is to do so on the right footing.

If your current host offers these services - AND HAS THE APPROPRIATE SERVER PLATFORM - then that's fine.

If they don't, then stop wasting time and do things differently.

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16 Mar 2007, 3:16 AM
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Sorry .... I havent been on ... I found FTP access... but if you go to the site... www.dragonhorsestudio.net/spiritwalker1 you can see that I am like a lost little puppy... who took programming 16 years ago...

16 Mar 2007, 3:22 AM
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I changed the CHMOD to 644 and tried 444 but I still get the security warning.... I will try my control panel/file manager to see where I can get to...

16 Mar 2007, 3:28 AM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

I usually change the setting in CPanel. You can try whatever webmaster panel you have. Remember there are two config files, so make sure you're changing the setting on the right one.

Oooo! Dream Catchers! :cool:

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16 Mar 2007, 3:37 AM
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I tried the control panel/file-manager and I still get the warning....:down: ... I change it on both config files not knowing which one to do ... so I went back and reset... sooooo.... lol....

I custom make Dream Catchers too!!!!:D

Yes I am very serious about my store getting up and running right....
Open my gallery at the end of May ... Need the website as well ....

16 Mar 2007, 3:43 AM
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Going to make a local copy as well .... Thanks for all the help you guys....

16 Mar 2007, 11:47 AM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

Hmmmmm....

Dragonhorse,

I come back to an original point about professional zencart hosting...

I am in no position to comment about the merits and demerits of any particular host service, but the reality is that zencart is a sophisticated tool, built to exacting professional standards - and it requires some very specific settings on the host server to function to optimal performance.

It also requires technical competency and a commitment to domain management processes set-up that enable the zencart store owner to have proper administrative access to the server and domain.

The forum is riddled with posts by anxious zen cart enthusiasts who are experiencing problems with server-related issues, and in many cases, it's because people have been persuaded by "iffy" hosting companies, to "set up a website" at either no cost, or a cost that is so ridiculously low, that the offer can't be resisted.

Proper e-commerce has to be done professionally. If you are selling goods/services to customers, there's an obligation to do this in a manner that assures customers of operational efficiency, ethical and legal responsibility, data privacy and functional reliability.

If your goal is to establish a proper online business, to earn a living and make some profits, then you ought to consider setting up your store with a team that knows and understands its complexities.

The certified zencart hosts all charge VERY REASONABLE hosting fees, but more than that - they have the EXPERTISE to do it properly for you.

Think about this. Your current host appears to be targeting the average person who believes they need a "website" on which they can display pictures of the family, describe their last vacation, and report on how the kids are doing at school...

... and if that's all you want to do, then they are the PERFECT choice for hosting.

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18 Mar 2007, 1:53 AM
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Re: About Blue Voda hosting Zen Cart

Thank you School Boy...
I hear you loud and clear... So... I am taking off the link with Bluevoda... and closing what I have ... have already installed all I need for Zen Cart on my computer.:smartass: .. totally right stay away from voda hosting zen cart you cant get to all the folders and files you need to make zen cart run properly ... Am working on my new store now ... will post when I get through and need a test run .....:thumbsup: ....lol...or get stuck again:ohmy:

Thanxs again Tracie