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12 May 2007, 4:46 PM
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PayPal Check out

Hi people. I'm new to Zen-Cart and have spent the better part of a month setting up my associations store page and was very pleased with the results. Then I tested an order paid through the standard paypal payment only to discover none of the products descriptions or quantities are being passed to paypal. I can order 5 items, but only the quantity of one and the total value of the order shows on paypal. What's up with that?
I have read post after post, done search after search and found no resolve to this issue though there were some other comments on this restriction.
Does someone have a fix for this or can those people in developement please code zen checkout to send send this info to paypal so it shows on the paypal statement?
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12 May 2007, 5:13 PM
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Re: PayPal Check out

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The standard PayPal module does not need to send the itemized details to PayPal because your customer does get an itemized confirmation from Zen Cart when you have the IPN and return set up properly.

12 May 2007, 6:03 PM
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Yes I realize that Zen-Cart sends a confirmation of order to the customer, but I require this feature. I am accountable to 27,000 members world wide and everything needs to be recorded like the government in triplicate. We not only use PayPal as a means of payment but also a record of purchases. Without a means of passing item details on to paypal purchase, which by the way is our only means of payment, we do not offer any other payment plans, Zen-Cart though a great utility, is useless to me.

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12 May 2007, 7:04 PM
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Re: PayPal Check out

1.3.7 uses paypal express which does in most cases send an itemized bill,

dont know if I would want 27000 people in my paypal account though,

wouldnt it be easier to send a copy of the itemized bill sent through zen cart to a distrobution email address

12 May 2007, 7:53 PM
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Re: PayPal Check out

Merlin, what's the difference between 27,000 in Paypal or 27,000 in Zen-Cart?
I've read many of your posts and till now they have made sense.
For the past seven years paypal has done a fine job recording and notifyng me and our members of their purchases. I was looking for a better front end to our stores which I thought Zen-Cart would offer. But like I say if it can't do what I want, which is simple in nature, all the fancy work is for naut.
I'm not looking for something that sends details in most cases. How would you like Zen-Cart to record most of your orders and only notify most of your customers?

Perhaps someone with more knowledge and a solution can reply here?

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12 May 2007, 7:56 PM
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Re: PayPal Check out

I wasnt being rude, I was merely saying that it would be just as easy to use the extra admin email for orders and send it to a broadcast email

and the other was to use paypal express because it does send a detailed invoice to paypal,

I was trying to offer you 2 viable solutions that would both fit your needs,

Im trying to see the login here,

IF you send the extra order email to a broadcast email then ALL PARTIES get the email,

and if you use paypal EXPRESS then all users can login to the paypal account and see the same thing,

2 completely different methods to do EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT

13 May 2007, 3:26 AM
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"just as easy to use the extra admin email for orders and send it to a broadcast email "

Not when one considers that PayPal is a much more secure server. I have disabled members required registration in Zen-Cart so that no information is retained in the unsecure database that requires lots of coding to secure.

This way they fill out the paypal shoping cart and pay with their paypal account.

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18 May 2007, 12:03 AM
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Hello, Bionic Rooster have you found a fix to the Paypal item quantities problem? I to am having the same problem I did a test checkout through the Paypal checkout page and it combines all the quantities into 1qty so I don't know how many of a particular item has sold.

Did you find a fix for this.

Thank you

18 May 2007, 12:06 AM
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Re: PayPal Check out

Look at the order history in Zen cart,

18 May 2007, 12:45 AM
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Yeah I know I can see the orders in the Zen-Cart history but that was not my question.

When you carry almost 200 items with quantities totaling over a thousand and a customer with multiple contents in their shopping cart checks out through the Paypal payment gateway and sees that the contents in their shopping cart have been combined it is confusing to them. We tested it out with a 15 beta testers and they did not go through with the Paypal payment becuase the contents in their shopping carts did not show the right quantities. Most of them went back to the original site to make sure they added items in their cart correctly but then reached the Paypal payment gateway and their quantities were combined again.

It's alright for me and my employees since we can see the order details in the Admin but when a customer is ready to checkout through Paypal it is confusing when all like items are combined to show as 1qty in their shopping cart. This will make customers confused and most likely make them not go through the checkout.

18 May 2007, 12:55 AM
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Re: PayPal Check out

there are 2 solutions here,

1 add some text on the checkout confirmation page.

  1. use paypal express.

There is an issue with paypal if you use discounts of any sort

18 May 2007, 1:04 AM
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Re: PayPal Check out

We are using standard Paypal checkout will Paypal express show the quantities?

18 May 2007, 2:14 AM
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Re: PayPal Check out

Its supposed to,

18 May 2007, 4:20 AM
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Re: PayPal Check out

No I haven't found a fix nor does the developers seem all that interested in making check out compatable with PayPal as no one has bothered to reply with a fix.

18 May 2007, 4:23 AM
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Re: PayPal Check out

Rooster,

the developers have stated several times that passing the items list in paypal IPN has issues, 1 the list looks like crap. 2 IF you use any kind of discount ( coupon ) anything that adjusts the price, paypal pukes on it.......

thats why the single item and total to paypal,

this issue is not being ignored, its been looked at over and over

the best way to got the line item in paypal is to use paypal express.

18 May 2007, 4:24 AM
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Re: PayPal Check out

Merlin, if you haven't figured it out yet, the problem lies in zen-cart not passing the purchase information on to paypal check out. I do wish you would post something of a contribution if you have one? Otherwise your posts are just confussing the issue.

18 May 2007, 4:29 AM
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Re: PayPal Check out

rooster, the issue is that paypals current IPN code chokes if you try to pass to much information to it,

IF you use a coupon or a gv or anything that changes the price paypal chokes,

If you do not believe me please use the little search box at the top of this page and search for it,

this has been talked to death you seem to think that Im trying to be a pain in the @$$ however I have done nothing but answer your questions and offer you solutions.

and I have actually made it pass the information however as I stated before the layout looke like a 2 year old designed it. and as soon as you try to use anything that modifies the price paypal acts stupid.

18 May 2007, 4:35 AM
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Re: PayPal Check out

Do any of you guys know a recommended programmer or company that can fix this problem?

18 May 2007, 4:52 AM
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Re: PayPal Check out

find this line

zen_draw_hidden_field('item_number', '1') .

replace it with this

zen_draw_hidden_field('item_number', '$order->info['products_id']') .

that should do it for you