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24 Jun 2008, 9:58 AM
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Ok, I am trying not to freeak out but it's getting hard. In admin > tools > define pages editor ... there is no pages to edit!!

How this ocurred I don't know, I only just did what flax suggested with the define_main_page.php and I used an override folder which I deleted when I noticed the page was stuffed but it still didint fix it.

So I uploaded the original file but this hasnt fixed it eigther. Suggestions?

25 Jun 2008, 2:46 AM
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vivaraquel:

i tried that and now my site is not showing correctly, so I wont be doing it that way. And I read about some download to use for editing text but it seems not to work properly eigther.

If anyone does anything different , let me know cuz although i love this template, the text editing on it is truly trying my patience.

Thank you.
Unfortunately, I do not believe it has anything to do with the text editor or ftp. When ever you're trying out new tools, proceed with extreme patience until you better understand your tools and any new methods. You may have borked something while getting used to the text editor and/or filezilla.

FWIW, I use jujuedit for my text editor, WinMerge for folder/file compare and contrast, and CuteFTP Pro (@ $60) for uploading/download files to and from the server.

Other tools I find handy are:

  • HTML Search and Replace, $20, for searching for text across all my mods and zen cart core code. It does mass search and replace into wildcarded files and into subfolders. FWIW, I purchased a copy and love it!
  • AllFileRenamer, renames files with a variety of options, including subfolders. I've used this for a couple of years.
  • FileRenamer has a great variety of options and is incredibly powerful, free, $20 gets you UNDO and subfolder capabilities, which is all that I have been missing, plus other features, I think, but I don't know for sure because for subfolders, I use AllFileRenamer.

vivaraquel:

Ok, I am trying not to freeak out but it's getting hard. In admin > tools > define pages editor ... there is no pages to edit!!

How this ocurred I don't know, I only just did what flax suggested with the define_main_page.php and I used an override folder which I deleted when I noticed the page was stuffed but it still didint fix it.

So I uploaded the original file but this hasnt fixed it eigther. Suggestions?
I seem to recall having this problem only one or two files were uploaded. Try uploading all the zen default files (see below) and whatever you've edited to /includes/languages/english/html_includes/apple_zen/. Or if you've not edited any files in your admin folder, upload a fresh copy of zen-cart_1.3.8a/admin. Naturally, substitute your version fo 1.3.8a if necessary. One or the other or both ought to fix the problem.

  1. define_checkout_success.php
  2. define_conditions.php
  3. define_contact_us.php
  4. define_discount_coupon.php
  5. define_main_page.php
  6. define_page_2.php
  7. define_page_3.php
  8. define_page_4.php
  9. define_page_not_found.php
  10. define_privacy.php
  11. define_shippinginfo.php
  12. define_site_map.php

Also, make sure you've selected Apple Zen as your theme via Admin > Tools > Template Selection. I seem to recall having some trouble their once. Looks like Apple Zen is selected but something is munged. I uploaded a fresh copy of Apple Zen, selected and verified it, and then uploaded my hacks.

25 Jun 2008, 3:01 AM
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Re: Apple Zen Support Thread

Thanks for that. I am not new to filezilla, been using it for quite a while now so I know how to upload etc..

I replaced the html_definitions folder and of course, I must redo all the info pages again. This time I will try a different text editor and see what result I get. I'd love to see things appear as they were written.

Fingers crossed.

25 Jun 2008, 3:37 AM
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Good luck.

Purely informational this note is, and maybe you know already, but the reason Zen Cart's text editor is advised against is because it does not return code properly if you need to edit it again. This is the case across the entire admin panel. For example, if you hard code an ampersand or a space, & and  , respectively, it will write properly to the database or file, but if loaded to an admin panel screen from the database or file, it will return a non-standard HTML ampersand, &, or a regular space, . Thus, many use text editors and FTP. Zen Cart devs should fix this issue or explain why it is like this. Maybe they have but I've not run across an explanation yet. Like Zen Cart, WordPress is PHP/MySQL-based and doesn't have this trouble.

25 Jun 2008, 4:28 AM
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Ok so before I change it again, I used jujuedit and filezilla for the main page and this is what I get http://www.dreamevent.com.au

How hard does it need to be to write up text?

25 Jun 2008, 5:12 AM
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Something weird is happening with your CSS. When I view your home page, the text appears to be a default of a large serif. Then when I click some links, the pages appear to be in a default of a normal-sized sans serif. There is either some serious lag time for the custom CSS to be properly rendered or some sort of CSS issue causing oddness.

If you have been working on CSS, another tool I use in developing sites is Web Developer, a very helpful Firefox Add-on. I'm not entirely up to speed with it but I it works great to troubleshoot CSS. Setting views of Information > Display Element Information and Information > Display Topographic Info have been invaluable for me.

BTW, note that I am not trying to offend you or your skill level. I am (and may be) posting a lot of extraneous info here and there because I'm putting together a tutorial over the next week or two to hand off a Zen Cart site I developed for a client and will be coming back to the forum to grab my riffs. Thus, I'm somewhat trying to get in the mode of replying for lowest common denominator and thus am trying to assume a low skill level regardless of actual. Not the easiest thing to train HTML newbies let alone computer newbies. And I'm no skilled coder by any means. I've got a long way to go.

25 Jun 2008, 5:28 AM
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Re: Apple Zen Support Thread

Thanks, I appreciate it.

I will not mess around with the CSS though. Out of all the sites I have created using ZC this is the only template that truly tries my patience when it come to just adding text.

I think I'll just use the html editor option on the admin and do the best I can.

Good luck with that tutorial.

25 Jun 2008, 5:36 AM
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Thanks, good to know. Apple Zen is my first template. Although, I've hacked it beyond recognition outside of the dropdown and shopping cart.

25 Jun 2008, 5:44 AM
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vivaraquel:

Ok so before I change it again, I used jujuedit and filezilla for the main page and this is what I get http://www.dreamevent.com.au

How hard does it need to be to write up text?

Minor point:

<div id="logo"> ... Art of E-Commerce " **width="700px" height="140px"** /></a></div>

You should remove the 'px'.

25 Jun 2008, 6:17 AM
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Re: Apple Zen Support Thread

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Other tools I find handy are:

  • HTML Search and Replace, $20, for searching for text across all my mods and zen cart core code. It does mass search and replace into wildcarded files and into subfolders. FWIW, I purchased a copy and love it!
  • AllFileRenamer, renames files with a variety of options, including subfolders. I've used this for a couple of years.
  • FileRenamer has a great variety of options and is incredibly powerful, free, $20 gets you UNDO and subfolder capabilities, which is all that I have been missing, plus other features, I think, but I don't know for sure because for subfolders, I use AllFileRenamer.

Thanks for sharing the list. The two File Renamer programs work excellent on my Win 2000 and will definitely come in handy. The 'sherrodcomuters.com' site also has a Sherrod FTP program which looks good but requires .NET Framework, which I don't have so cannot use.

HTML Search and Replace I was already aware of and is an excellent program as well.

25 Jun 2008, 3:54 PM
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Re: Apple Zen Support Thread

jettrue:

The advice I gave you affects much more than the logo, it was the correct reply and did relate to the issue. If you posted a link, I could know for sure.

Here is a link to my site. http://jhaudiotech.com/shop

To repeat my request...I would like my Category and Subcategory listings to wrap horrizontally accross the page, just like the "featured, or new product" listings do. Is this possible? If so, how do I accomplish it.

Also, if you have any suggestions for my site, I would appreciate those as well.

Again, thank you for all your help!

26 Jun 2008, 4:13 AM
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Re: Apple Zen Support Thread

See attached image.*

Removing one checkout link, keeping the other
I'd like to remove the checkout link in the blue circle but keep the other checkout link in the dropdown. Has anybody tried this? I'm hoping someone else has already done the legwork on removing it (or another link from that row: home, login, my account, shopping cart and/or checkout.

Dropdown submenu alignment
See the dropdown edge circled in green. Has anybody successfully gotten their dropdowns and submenus to lineup properly when the initial view of the dropdown is all white?

*Is it possible to embed images uploaded to zen-cart.com?

26 Jun 2008, 4:22 AM
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I would like my Category and Subcategory listings to wrap horrizontally accross the page, just like the "featured, or new product" listings do. Is this possible? If so, how do I accomplish it.
Do you mean you want this page to flow in a 3-column grid? If so, I've run into this query before on the forum and it is not a simple task by any means if I understood what I was skimming. The incomplete answer is that tpl_columnar_display.php (in zen-cart-v1.3.8a-full-fileset-12112007\includes\templates\template_default\common) needs to be involved or cloned and a mess of other files need to be cloned or rewritten. Not for the "woolly". ;)

26 Jun 2008, 3:40 PM
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cartguin:

John, try http://browsershots.org.

Thanks - that was exactly what I needed!

26 Jun 2008, 4:21 PM
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jettrue:

First thing I would do, is fix the head portion of your site. You have css there, I would move that to a file in includes/templates/YOUR_TEMPLATE/css/. All css belongs in the <head> portion of the website, you have it within the <body>.

also, you have a second </head> up there.

All of that needs to be gone.

Don't know if that's your issue, but fixing it will get you a step closer.

Thanks Jade. Along with the BrowserShot tip above I was able to see the problem. I tossed my customized tpl_header and replaced it with the original tpl_header file, and then made my logo static by swapping it into logo.gif. I still want my CSS banner, and I will work on getting it back in there, but at least my site functions in IE. It does still wrap the right to the left on some pages, which I have noticed is a problem with other AZ websites. Has anyone solved that issue? Thanks again.

26 Jun 2008, 6:00 PM
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jdhone:

Here is a link to my site. http://jhaudiotech.com/shop

To repeat my request...I would like my Category and Subcategory listings to wrap horrizontally accross the page, just like the "featured, or new product" listings do. Is this possible? If so, how do I accomplish it.

Also, if you have any suggestions for my site, I would appreciate those as well.

Again, thank you for all your help!

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Do you mean you want this page to flow in a 3-column grid? If so, I've run into this query before on the forum and it is not a simple task by any means if I understood what I was skimming. The incomplete answer is that tpl_columnar_display.php (in zen-cart-v1.3.8a-full-fileset-12112007\includes\templates\template_default\common) needs to be involved or cloned and a mess of other files need to be cloned or rewritten. Not for the "woolly". ;)

No, I am not looking to have the product listing wrap in a 3 column page, I don't think there is room for that. What I do want to wrap in 3 colums, just as stated in my top request, is the category and subcategory listings. Right now they are in a single column to the left of the main page in a center justification. Click Here For An Example

Again, I would like the Category and Sub-Category listings to be centered in the main page area and wrap in three columns, just like the "featured, or new product" listings do on my home page.

Does anyone know how to accomplish this? If so, could you please help.

Thank you!

26 Jun 2008, 11:02 PM
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jettrue:

I'm not sure WHY its doing it, but for some reason the table in your center content section is using a larger font size. So go to define_main_page.php in your admin under "Tools", Define Pages Editor", and change this:

<table class="" style="width: 614px; height: 783px; text-align: left;" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"> ```To this: > ``` <table class="" style="width: 614px; height: 783px; text-align: left;[B]font-size:1em;[/B]" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2"> ```

Thanks!!!

27 Jun 2008, 7:08 PM
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Can anyone help me understand what is going wrong with my attempt to insert my banner into the template? What I am attempting is to place this table:

<table width="760" border="0" align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" id="navbarz"> <tr id="divnavbarz"> <td width="760"><div align="left"><img src="../assets/banner2008_01.gif" width="760" height="149" alt="Banner Top" /></div></td> </tr> <tr> <td id="divnavbarz"><a href="../index.html">HOME</a> | <a href="../store/history.html">ABOUT US</a> | <a href="../enews08/eventspg08v2.html">EVENTS</a> | <a href="../store/parentindex.html">PARENTS</a>| <a href="../store/teacherindex.html">TEACHERS</a> | <a href="http://www.goldenapplels.com/ZcartGA/">STORE</a> | <a href="../store/contactus.html">CONTACT</a> | <a href="../store/directions08.html">FIND US</a></td> </tr> </table>

at the top of the page in place of the logo.gif. It works fine in Safari & FF, but in IE it places a huge white gap - so huge that my IE customers think the page is blank. Am I attempting the impossible with this?

27 Jun 2008, 7:23 PM
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IIRC, the Apple Zen logo has content to its right controlled by a language file I think. Have you removed its structural code?

27 Jun 2008, 10:39 PM
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jdhone:

Here is a link to my site. http://jhaudiotech.com/shop

To repeat my request...I would like my Category and Subcategory listings to wrap horrizontally accross the page, just like the "featured, or new product" listings do. Is this possible? If so, how do I accomplish it.

Also, if you have any suggestions for my site, I would appreciate those as well.

Again, thank you for all your help!

Again, just as I said before, the issue was to do with this chunk of code:

#logo, .centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .attribImg {
	float:left;
	}

You have that section commented out. From your css file:

[B]/*[/B]#logo, .centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .attribImg {
	float:left;
	}
	
#logo {
	width:19.1em  /* To prevent the logo from resizing, simply delete or comment out this section */
	}[B]*/[/B]

Remember that when you comment out a section of css, you're affecting EVERYTHING in the list. See how the above code lists SIX css descriptors:

#logo, .centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .attribImg

You may have decided that you no longer wanted your #logo floated left. In that case, simply remove #logo from the list, don't force the other 5 items to change as well. So change your above code, to this:

.centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .attribImg {
	float:left;
	}
	
[B]/*[/B]#logo {
	width:19.1em  /* To prevent the logo from resizing, simply delete or comment out this section */
	}[B]*/[/B]

FIX THAT and your problem will be gone. :bigups: