Paypal IPN and Express Checkout

Note that the June 16/17 patch is already included in v1.3.7.1

vegascoug:

Are there any advantages to using one or the other?

If it saves time, it seem slike PayPal Express is the best option.

Am I missing something?

It seems to me that I would need both....
The reason being:

If i am using PayPal Express only, and someone creates their account to check out the regular way, once their order is confirmed on my site and passed to paypal, the only fields paypal fills in are the email field where -as PayPal IPN fills in all of the fields.

If i was a customer, i would not want to enter my information twice, once on the site, then once for paypal.

If they choose the express method, then all is fine and dandy. But if they dont....:no:

am i missing something? should my cart be passing the zen cart account information to paypal with paypal express (paypal ipn does)

do i make any sense:...
simpified:

paypal ipn passes zen cart account information so the customer does not have to fill it in, where-as payapl express does not (besides the email address field.)

With PayPal express they don't enter any information on your site, once you click the button you just enter in the PP username and password, or fill in your info and CC information, then it takes you back to the Confirm order page.

Takes less pages, less time, and makes all my customers MUCH happier.

vegascoug:

With PayPal express they don't enter any information on your site, once you click the button you just enter in the PP username and password, or fill in your info and CC information, then it takes you back to the Confirm order page.

Takes less pages, less time, and makes all my customers MUCH happier.

but what if your customer already has an account or decided to make an account before paying. paypal express won't pass that information (fill in your info for a CC transaction) like ipn would, so they would have to re-enter it...so it would be slower right.....unless you used ipn which passes it?

im not trying to be cocky or go against the system, i am just trying to understand, in order to give my customers the fastest and easiest checkout possible.

OK, I still can't get express to not ask for a login or create account. Does anyone have any suggestions?

What version are you running? If it's 3.7.1, have you removed and installed the IPN and Express? You need to do that after the install/upgrade. I had the same problem until I did that.

I would go over the upgrade steps again to make sure you didn't miss a file somewhere. That's where I find 99% of my problems (I don't say 100 because I hold out hope that one time it won't be my error ;)

shammashoes:

OK, I still can't get express to not ask for a login or create account. Does anyone have any suggestions?

What's the URL where this can be seen in action?
or else provide a click-by-click explanation of what you're doing and seeing vs what you were hoping for.

I use 1.3.5 version
I've just apply this patch
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpost.php?p=390776&postcount=14
to Paypal payment module, but in admin/module I've this error
Warning: call_user_func(zen_cfg_password_display) [function.call-user-func]: First argument is expected to be a valid callback in /web/htdocs/www.100asa.it/home/admin100asa/includes/functions/general.php on line 1521

100asa:

I use 1.3.5 version
I've just apply this patch
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpost.php?p=390776&postcount=14
to Paypal payment module, but in admin/module I've this errorWhy did you do that ?

The patch is designed for v1.3.7 only.

I've made more changes to my version, and I don't have much time to compare all new file to upgrade at 1.3.7 version.
I't possible to apply in 1.3.5 version only new file for Paypal IPN payment?
Please, show me the way to do this.
Thank's in advance

I think the patch was created for 1.3.7, not sure if it will run with 1.3.5

But I am just making a guess, no idea if that's true or not.

vegascoug:

I think the patch was created for 1.3.7, not sure if it will run with 1.3.5

But I am just making a guess, no idea if that's true or not.

The 1.3.7 PayPal patches are not compatible with 1.3.5.

100asa:

I've made more changes to my version, and I don't have much time to compare all new file to upgrade at 1.3.7 version.
I't possible to apply in 1.3.5 version only new file for Paypal IPN payment?
Please, show me the way to do this.

Why ?

You're explaining that you installed a patch.
You didn't explain why.
Are you installing patches just because you like installing things?
Or was there a specific problem you were trying to fix?

Technically v1.3.5 is no longer supported.
There are a number of troubleshooting helps for IPN problems found here:
http://www.zen-cart.com/wiki/index.php/PayPal

vegascoug:

I am not sure what version you are using of ZC or PP, but that is not what I see

Check out what my customers see, you can easily pay with a CC or login to PP

http://go-cougs.com/images/paypal_screenshot.gif

Just been setting paypal express up myself.

I saw this thread and just wanted to ask vegascoug if this is really what his customers see on the first page when they get sent to paypal?

with the site i'm setting up the customers see's a much smaller link on the left:

Don,t have a Paypal account?
No Problem: continue checkout

More info:

To get to a page with the title:

Pay with credit card or Log In

as vegascoug has I first have to click on the continue checkout link.

I'd really like this second page to show up first as vegascoug has?

Anyone have any ideas? Is it a paypal setting?

yet more: :smile:

forgot to say i have updated to version 1.3.7.1, so i think I should have all the relevant patches.

Hi,

Anyone got any thoughts on this. Is it possible to make the link for CC payments for paypal express more obvious?

Thanks.

taf:

Anyone got any thoughts on this. Is it possible to make the link for CC payments for paypal express more obvious?

No. The PayPal interface is controlled by PayPal. If you'd like to make a suggestion to PayPal to make it more prominent, you can log a ticket on their support site.

Try clearing your browser cookies to be sure your PayPal settings aren't being remembered ... otherwise you may be getting confused by what "you're" seeing vs what your customers are seeing.