layout help needed, including some IE/FF issues

ok first id like to say that the community here is excellent and i thank you all for your help and time..(probably the best experience ive ever had on a forum and that even includes with paid scripts...Awesome!)

aside from the fact that zen cart is absolutely excellent... and well written .. cheere to the zen cart team!:thumbsup:

so heres my little problem
ecanyoncreek.com

if you look in ie 7 it looks great!

but if you could take a look with fire fox and or ie6 or older..

you'll see that on these other browsers/versions the header is seperated largely from the body.:frusty:

also one more reson for me to bang my head on my keyboard is the excessive nav bars in the body of the page

i like this one "Home :: Candles :: Candle 1 "

but if you click the category "candles"

youll see the addition of "Home :: Candles :: Candle 1
Candles
"
under this..which is kind of over kill and i think it pushes the page down :cry:

also id like the side nav on the left in the invisible box to be aligned top but in my css. it looks as they are all set to "verticle-align:top".. i may have missed one so whats that under in the stylesheet or is there something else keeping it spaced down in the page..

thx in advance..:lamo:

heres my .css maybe this will help! :)

body {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
	font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 62.5%;
	color: #000000;
	background: #fff url(../images/bg_011.jpg);
	text-align:left;
	}

a img {border: none; }

a:link {
	color: #0066FF;
	text-decoration: none;
	}
 
a:visited {
	color: #0066FF;
	text-decoration: none;
	}

a:hover, #navCatTabs ul li a:hover {
	color: #00CCFF;
	}
#navMain ul li a:hover {
	color: #ffffff; 
   text-decoration: none;	
}
#navSupp ul li a:hover {
	color: #ffffff;
	}

a:active {
	color: #0000FF;
	}

h1 {
	font-size: 1.5em;
	color: #9a9a9a;
	}

h2 {
	font-size: 1.4em;
	}

h3 {
	font-size: 1.3em;
	}

h4, h5, h6, LABEL, h4.optionName, LEGEND, ADDRESS, .sideBoxContent, .larger{
	font-size: 1.1em;
	}

.biggerText {
	font-size: 1.2em;
	}

h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {
	margin: 0;Padding:0;
	}

CODE {
	font-family: arial, verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: 1em;
	}

FORM {
	display: inline;
	font-size: 1em;
	margin: 0;
	}

input {border:1px solid #B6ABD5; background:#fff;}
	
	
TEXTAREA {
	float: left;
	margin: auto;
	display: block;
	width: 850px;
	}

input:focus, textarea:focus {
	background: #fff;
	}

FIELDSET {
	padding: 0.5em;
	margin: 0.5em 0em;
	border: 1px solid #cccccc;
	}

LEGEND {
	font-weight: bold;
	padding: 0.3em;
	}

LABEL, h4.optionName {
	line-height: 1.5em;
	padding: 0.2em;
	}

LABEL.checkboxLabel, LABEL.radioButtonLabel {
	margin: 0.5em 0.3em;
	}
	
select {margin: 0;background:#fff;}
select:focus {
	background: #fff;
	}		
option {background:#fff; color:navy;}
optgroup {background:#fff; color:navy; font-family:georgia, serif;}
optgroup option {background:#fff; color:navy;}

.centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .attribImg {
	float: left;
	}
#logo {
	float: left;
	}
LABEL.inputLabel {
	width: 10em;
	float: left;
	}

LABEL.inputLabelPayment {
	width: 14em;
	float: left;
	padding-left: 2.5em;
	}

LABEL.selectLabel, LABEL.switchedLabel, LABEL.uploadsLabel {
	width: 11em;
	float: left;
	}

#checkoutPayment LABEL.radioButtonLabel {
	font-weight: bold;
	}

P, ADDRESS {
	padding: 0.5em;
	}

ADDRESS {
	font-style: normal;
	}

.clearBoth {
	clear: both;
	}

HR {
	height: 1px;
	margin-top: 0.5em;
	border: none;
	border-bottom: 1px solid #9a9a9a;
	}

/*warnings, errors, messages*/
.messageStackWarning, .messageStackError, .messageStackSuccess, .messageStackCaution {
	line-height: 1.8em;
	padding: 0.2em;
	border: 1px solid #9a9a9a;
	}

.messageStackWarning, .messageStackError {
	background-color: #ff0000;
	color: #ffffff;
	}

.messageStackSuccess {
	background-color: #99FF99;
	color: #000000;
	}

.messageStackCaution {
	background-color: #FFFF66;
	color: #000000;
	}

/*wrappers - page or section containers*/
#mainWrapper {
	margin: auto;
	background-color: #FFFFCC;
	text-align: left;
	width: 850px;
	vertical-align: top;
	}

#logoWrapper, #cartBoxListWrapper, #ezPageBoxList, #cartBoxListWrapper ul, #ezPageBoxList ul, , #popupAdditionalImage, #popupImage {
	margin: 0em;
	padding: 0em;
	}
    
#contentMainWrapper {
	margin: 0 auto;
	padding: 0;
	width: 850px;
	background-color: #FFFFFF;	
	border: solid ;
	border: #512000;
} 	
	
#headerWrapper {
	background-color: transparent;	
}	
	
#logoWrapper{
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
	height:70px;
	}
 
#navColumnOneWrapper {
	margin: 0 0.5em;
	padding: 120px 0 0 0;
	}
#navColumnTwoWrapper {
	margin: 0 0.5em;
	}
#taglineWrapper {
	margin:0;
	padding:20px 0 0 200px;
	vertical-align: middle;
	color:#000;
}
#tagline {
	/*color:#fff;*/
	font-size: 1.3em;
	font-weight: 400;
	/*text-align : center;
	vertical-align: bottom;*/
	}

#sendSpendWrapper {
	border: 1px solid #cacaca;
	float: right;
	margin: 0em 0em 1em 1em;
	}

.floatingBox, #accountLinksWrapper, #sendSpendWrapper, #checkoutShipto, #checkoutBillto {
	margin: 0;
	width: 47%;
	}

.wrapperAttribsOptions {
	margin: 0.3em 0em;
	}

/*navigation*/
.navNextPrevWrapper{padding: 10px 0;}
.navSplitPagesResult {padding: 5px 0;}
.navSplitPagesLinks {}
.navNextPrevCounter {
	padding: 5px 0;
	font-size: 0.9em;
	}
.navNextPrevList {
	display: inline;
	white-space: nowrap;
	padding: 5px 5px 10px 5px;
	list-style-type: none;
	}

#navMainWrapper {
	margin: 0em;
	padding: 0 0.2em;
	background-color: transparent;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #FFCC00;
	height: 1%;
	vertical-align: middle;
	font-size:1.4em;
}
#navCatTabsWrapper {
	margin: 0em;
	padding: 0 0.2em;
	background-color: #512000;
	font-weight: bold; color:#FFFFFF;
	height: 1%;
	vertical-align: middle;
	font-size:1.2em;
}
#navSuppWrapper {
	margin: 0em;
	padding: 0 0.2em;
	background-color: transparent;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #000;
	height: 1%;
	vertical-align: middle;
	font-size:.9em;
}

#navCatTabs ul {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0m;
	list-style-type: none;
	text-align: center;
	line-height: 1.5em;
	vertical-align: middle;
}

#navMain ul {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0.5em 0 0 300px;
	list-style-type: none;
	text-align: center;
	line-height: 1.5em;
	vertical-align: middle;
}
#navSupp ul {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0.5em 0em;
	list-style-type: none;
	text-align: center;
	line-height: 1.5em;
	vertical-align: middle;
}
	
#navMain ul li, #navSupp ul li, #navCatTabs ul li {
	display: inline;
	}
	
#navMain ul li a {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0em 0.5em;
	text-decoration: none;
	background: #ccc;
	color: #000;
	white-space: nowrap;
	}
	
#navMain ul li a:hover {
	text-decoration: none;
	background: #ccc;
	color: #fff;
	}
	
#navSupp ul li a, #navCatTabs ul li a {
	text-decoration: none;
	padding: 0em 0.5em;
	margin: 0;
	color: #ffffff;
	white-space: nowrap;
	}

#navSupp ul li :hover, #navCatTabs ul li a:hover {
	text-decoration: none;
	color: navy;
	}
		
#navEZPagesTOCWrapper {
	font-weight: bold;
	float: right;
	height: 1%;
	border: 1px solid #9a9a9a;
	}

#navEZPagesTOC ul {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0.5em 0em;
	list-style-type: none;
	line-height: 1.5em;
	}

#navEZPagesTOC ul li {
	white-space: nowrap;
	}

#navEZPagesTOC ul li a {
	padding: 0em 0.5em;
	margin: 0;
	}

#navCategoryIcon, .buttonRow, #indexProductListCatDescription {
	margin: 0.5em;
	}

#navMainSearch {
margin: 0;
padding: 8px 3px 9px 5px;
	float: right;
   background: transparent;
   display:none;
	}
#navMainSearch input {
	margin: 0;
	display: inline;
	font-size: 1em;
	}
	
#navBreadCrumb {
	padding: 0.5em 8px;
	background-color: transparent;
	font-size: 0.95em;
	font-weight: 700;
	margin: 16px 10px 5px 10px;
	}

#navEZPagesTop {
	margin: 0em;
	padding: 0.5em;
	background-color: transparent;
	font-size: 1.2em;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #000;
	text-align: right;
}
	
#navEZPagesTop a {
text-decoration: none;
color: #787878;
	}	
#navEZPagesTop a:hover {
text-decoration: none;
color: navy;
	}
#navColumnOne {
	vertical-align: top;
	padding: 0 0 5px 0;
	}
#navColumnTwo {
	vertical-align: top;
	padding: 0 0 5px 0;
	}
/*The main content classes*/
#contentColumnMain, .centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .additionalImages, .centerBoxContentsSpecials, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .centerBoxContentsFeatured, .centerBoxContentsNew, .alert {
	vertical-align: top;
	background-color:#FFFFFF
	}

/*.content,*/ #productDescription, .shippingEstimatorWrapper {
	/*font-size: 1.2em;*/
	padding: 0.5em;
	background-color:#FFFFFF
	}

.italic {
	font-style: italic;
}	
	
.alert {
	color: #FF0000;
	margin-left: 0.5em;
	}
.advisory {}
.important {
	font-weight: bold;
	}
.notice {}
.rating{}
.gvBal {
	float: right;
	}
#bannerOne, #bannerTwo, #bannerThree, #bannerFour, #bannerFive, #bannerSix {
	padding: 0.8em;
	}
.centerColumn{
	padding: 0.8em;
font-size:1.2em;
	background-color: transparent;	
}	

.smallText, #siteinfoLegal, #siteinfoCredits, #siteinfoStatus, #siteinfoIP {
	font-size: 0.9em;
	}

/*Shopping Cart Display*/
#cartAdd {
	float: right;
	text-align: center;
	margin: 1em;
	border: 1px solid #000000;
	padding: 1em;
	}

.tableHeading TH {
	border-bottom: 1px solid #9a9a9a;
	background-color: navy;
}

.tableHeading, #cartSubTotal {
	background-color: #CEDBF2;
	}

#cartSubTotal {
	border-top: 1px solid #cccccc;
	font-weight: bold;
	text-align: right;
	line-height: 2.2em;
	padding-right: 2.5em;
	}

.tableRow, .tableHeading, #cartSubTotal {
	height: 2.2em;
	}

.cartProductDisplay, .cartUnitDisplay, .cartTotalDisplay, .cartRemoveItemDisplay, .cartQuantityUpdate, .cartQuantity, #cartInstructionsDisplay, .cartTotalsDisplay {
	padding: 0.5em 0em;
	}

.cartUnitDisplay, .cartTotalDisplay {
	text-align: right;
	padding-right: 0.2em;
	}

#scUpdateQuantity {
	width: 2em;
	}

.cartQuantity {
	width: 4.7em;
	}

.cartNewItem {
	color: #33CC33;
	position: relative;  /*do not remove-fixes stupid IEbug*/
	}

.cartOldItem {
	color: #660099;
	position: relative;  /*do not remove-fixes stupid IEbug*/
	}

.cartBoxTotal {
	text-align: right;
	font-weight: bold;
	}

.cartRemoveItemDisplay {
	width: 3.5em;
	}

.cartAttribsList {
	margin-left: 1em;
	}

#mediaManager {
	width: 50%; 
	margin: 0.2em;
	padding: 0.5em;
	background-color: #E4FEf5;
	border: 1px solid #003D00;
	}

.normalprice, .productSpecialPriceSale {
	text-decoration: line-through;
	}

.productSpecialPrice, .productSalePrice, .productSpecialPriceSale, .productPriceDiscount {
	color: #ff0000;
	}

.orderHistList {
	margin: 1em;
	padding: 0.2em 0em;
	list-style-type: none;
	} 

#cartBoxListWrapper ul, #ezPageBoxList ul {
	list-style-type: none;
	}

#cartBoxListWrapper li, #ezPageBoxList li, .cartBoxTotal {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0.2em 0em;
	} 

#cartBoxEmpty, #cartBoxVoucherBalance {
	font-weight: bold;
	}

.totalBox {
	width: 5.5em;
	text-align: right;
	padding: 0.2em;
	}

.lineTitle, .amount {
	text-align: right;
	padding: 0.2em;
	}

.amount {
	width: 5.5em;
	}

/*Image Display*/
#productMainImage, #reviewsInfoDefaultProductImage, #productReviewsDefaultProductImage, #reviewWriteMainImage {
	margin: 0em 1em 1em 0em ;
	}

.categoryIcon {}

#cartImage {
	margin: 0.5em 1em;
	}

/*Attributes*/
.attribImg {
	width: 20%;
	margin: 0.3em 0em;
}

.attributesComments {}

/*list box contents*/
.centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .additionalImages, .centerBoxContentsSpecials, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .centerBoxContentsFeatured, .centerBoxContentsNew {
	margin: 1em 0em;
	}

.centerBoxWrapper {
	border: 1px solid #9a9a9a;
	height: 1%;
	margin: 1.1em 0;
	width: %100;
	}

h2.centerBoxHeading {
	font-size: 1.3em;
	color: navy;
	}

/*sideboxes*/
.columnLeft {}

h3.leftBoxHeading, h3.leftBoxHeading a,
h3.rightBoxHeading, h3.rightBoxHeading a {
	color: navy;
	}
h3#manufacturersHeading, h3#currenciesHeading, h3#musicgenresHeading, h3#recordcompaniesHeading, h3#searchHeading, h3#search-headerHeading {
	color: navy;
}

.leftBoxHeading, .centerBoxHeading, .rightBoxHeading {
	margin: 0em;
	padding:.3em .2em;
	}
.leftBoxHeading, .rightBoxHeading {
background: transparent;
color: navy;
	}	
.leftBoxContainer, .rightBoxContainer {
	margin: 0em;
	border: 1px solid #000;
	border-width: 0 0 2px 0;
	margin-top: 1.5em;
	}

.sideBoxContent {
	background-color: transparent;
	padding: 0.4em;
	}
	
.sideBoxContent a:hover {
	text-decoration: none;
	color: #B6ABD5;
	}
a.sideBoxContent a {
	text-decoration: none;
	color: navy;
	}		

h3.leftBoxHeading a:hover, h3.rightBoxHeading a:hover {
	color: #FFFF33;
	text-decoration: none;
	} 

.rightBoxHeading a:visited, .leftBoxHeading a:visited, .centerBoxHeading a:visited {
	color: #FFFFFF;
	}

.centeredContent, TH, #cartEmptyText, #cartBoxGVButton, #cartBoxEmpty, #cartBoxVoucherBalance, #navCatTabsWrapper, #navEZPageNextPrev, #bannerOne, #bannerTwo, #bannerThree, #bannerFour, #bannerFive, #bannerSix, #siteinfoLegal, #siteinfoCredits, #siteinfoStatus, #siteinfoIP, .center, .cartRemoveItemDisplay, .cartQuantityUpdate, .cartQuantity, .cartTotalsDisplay, #cartBoxGVBalance, .leftBoxHeading, .centerBoxHeading,.rightBoxHeading, .accountQuantityDisplay, .ratingRow, LABEL#textAreaReviews, #productMainImage, #reviewsInfoDefaultProductImage, #productReviewsDefaultProductImage, #reviewWriteMainImage, .centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .additionalImages, .centerBoxContentsSpecials, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .centerBoxContentsFeatured, .centerBoxContentsNew, .gvBal, .attribImg {
	text-align: center;
	}
#navEZPageNextPrev {
	padding: 10px 0;
}
#bestsellers .wrapper {
	margin: 0em 0em 0em 1.5em;
	}

#bestsellers ol {
	padding: 0;
	margin-left: 1.1em;
	}

#bestsellers li {
	padding: 0;
	margin: 0.3em 0em 0.3em 0em;
	}

#bannerboxHeading {
	background-color: transparent;
	color: navy;
}

#upProductsHeading {
	text-align: left;
	}

#upDateHeading {
	text-align: right;
	}

/* categories box parent and child categories */
a.category-top, a.category-top:visited {
	color: navy;
	text-decoration: none;
	font-size:1em;
	}
a.category-links, a.category-links:visited {
	color: navy;
	text-decoration: none;
	}
a.category-subs, a.category-products, a.category-subs:visited, a.category-products:visited {
	color: navy;
	text-decoration: none;
	}
SPAN.category-subs-parent {
	font-weight: bold;
	}
SPAN.category-subs-selected {
	font-weight: bold;
	}
	
category-top a:hover, category-links a:hover, category-subs a:hover, category-products a:hover {
	text-decoration: none;
	color: #B6ABD5; 
}	
/* end categories box links */

/*misc*/
.back {
	float: left;
	}

.forward, #shoppingCartDefault #PPECbutton {
	float: right;
	}

.bold {
	font-weight: bold;
	}

.rowOdd {
	background-color: #E8E8E8;
	height: 1.5em;
	vertical-align: top;
	}

.rowEven {
	background-color: #F0F0F0;
	height: 1.5em;
	vertical-align: top;
	}

.hiddenField {
	display: none;
}
.visibleField {
	display: inline;
}

CAPTION {
	/*display: none;*/
	}

#myAccountGen li, #myAccountNotify li {
	margin: 0;
	} 

.accountTotalDisplay, .accountTaxDisplay {
	width: 20%;
	text-align: right;
	/*vertical-align: top*/
	}

.accountQuantityDisplay {
	width: 10%;
	vertical-align: top
	}

TR.tableHeading {
	background-color: #cacaca;
	height: 2em;
	}

tr.productListing-rowheading,.tableHeading{background:#B6ABD5;font-size:1em;text-align:center;color:navy;height:24px;margin:0;padding:.5em 0.2em;}
tr.productListing-rowheading a,.productListing-heading a,.tableHeading a{background:transparent;color:navy;}
.productListing-heading{font-weight:700;font-size:1em;}
#productListing{background-color: #F9F7F3;}
.productListing-even .productListing-data,.productListing-even .linkListing-data{padding:5px 0;font-size:1em;background:#F9F4EC;color:#000;}
.productListing-odd .productListing-data,.productListing-odd .linkListing-data{padding:5px 0;font-size:1em;color:#000;background:#F9F7F3;}
.productListing-even {font-size:1em;background:#F9F4EC;color:#000;}
.productListing-odd {font-size:1em;color:#000;background:#F9F7F3;}
.itemTitle{font-size:1.1em;font-weight:700;text-align:left;padding:0 0 0 3px;}
.listingDescription{text-align:left;clear:left;padding:0 0 0 3px;}

.ratingRow {
	margin: 1em 0em 1.5em 0em;
	}

LABEL#textAreaReviews {
	font-weight: normal;
	margin: 1em 0em;
	}

#popupShippingEstimator, #popupSearchHelp, #popupAdditionalImage, #popupImage, #popupCVVHelp, #popupCouponHelp, #popupAtrribsQuantityPricesHelp, #infoShoppingCart {
	background-color: #ffffff;
	}

I can maybe get you started...

i like this one "Home :: Candles :: Candle 1 "
but if you click the category "candles"

youll see the addition of "Home :: Candles :: Candle 1
Candles

under this..which is kind of over kill and i think it pushes the page down

You have Categories-Tabs Menu turned on, which duplicates your categories in a row across the top of the page. Then you also have Breadcrumbs turned on, which is giving you that extra line of links below the category tabs. I too found that to be a bit much so I turned off the category tabs. You might want to try that, since you've got all the categories in their left sidebox anyway. You can find these settings in admin/configuration/layout settings.

HTH

Rob