free ZenCart templates?

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Hi guys,

I hope you will find this site useful. There are more then 20 color palettes and few hundreds of colors variations.

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Krzysztof Gorzelak

If you would like to donate your templates we would be happy to have them in our downloads section.

Hi Kim,

First of all, thank You for Your Interest in my work.

I'm willing to donate a few of my templates - for example 5 chosen by Zen-Cart equipe. Do you mind if we add a notice to the description saying that more simmilar templates can be found on me webpage? That would be a nice gratiffication for me.

Hope to hear from You soon.
Krzysztof Gorzelak

That would be fine.

OK then, so if you find some time, please feel free to download up to 5 templates from Templates13 and put them in the download section of Zen-cart site. Thank you for not forgetting to add a comment/notice about my site.

Krzysztof Gorzelak
[email protected]

Hey Kim,

What's the case status ? Are you willing to include this templates in your download section?

Thx for your response.

Krzysztof
You need to package them and add them to the downloads area if you want them there. Take a look at another template to get an idea as to how to set up the package.
Marg

Okey, thanks for your answer, marg!

Two things:

1. Don't make people guess how much it will cost to remove the link back. Tell them upfront.

2. Fix the Footer on all your pages so they go to an actual page.

Website Rob:

1. Don't make people guess how much it will cost to remove the link back. Tell them upfront.
   Surely any Zen Cart template that was distributed would have to be covered by the GPL. If there was a link in the template that the user didn't want it could be removed without payment. To specify otherwise would violate the GPL.

Regards,
Christian.

Best talk to some others here at the Forum then as they are doing the same thing -- payment required to remove link back.

This brings up some interesting points concerning the GPL.

Anyone who distributes GPL'ed code is within their rights to charge a reasonable expense to cover distribution costs.

Modified code, if distributed, must be made available to all and distributed under the GPL, which see above.

A basic tenet of the GPL is that charging for services (code modification, installation, customization, maintenance...) is always allowed, unlimited and between the buyer and seller. Capitalism at its purest.

So, no. The template author can not require payment to remove the link back in the GPL'ed version, but is entirely within their right to charge for software services or a non-GPL version of the code.

This may seem like circular reasoning and that the template author is now distributing the modified code, but if there are no other authors whose rights need to be considered, the author can choose any license or distribution method for the second version. The recipient is welcome to secure any one they wish to perform a similar service to the GPL'ed code.

member #798 - Free Software Foundation, http://fsf.org

Website Rob:

Two things:

1. Don't make people guess how much it will cost to remove the link back. Tell them upfront.

2. Fix the Footer on all your pages so they go to an actual page.

Ok, it's an early version of the page. I will fix all the issues soon.

dmnalven:

This may seem like circular reasoning and that the template author is now distributing the modified code, but if there are no other authors whose rights need to be considered, the author can choose any license or distribution method for the second version. The recipient is welcome to secure any one they wish to perform a similar service to the GPL'ed code.

Could you please explain in details ? How does it apply to the templates distribution ?

I've spent about 15 minutes searching the Zen-Cart site for contribution license requirements and the Zen-Cart license itself. I can find neither. The only reference to the GPL and licensing requirements I have been able to find at this entire site is the post by Christian in this thread.

Inasmuch as Zen-Cart is a fork of oscommerce, Zen-Cart is necessarily GPL'ed. The GPL license is stipulated in the downloaded code.

Any contributions without specific licensing are subject to the local laws of the author and/or distributor.

Zen-Cart is very loose in this respect, as are this planets' potpurri of copyright laws. So take your pick. If you wish details, consult a local professional. If you wish to go the FOSS way, specifically add an OSS license to your code.

In the States, failure to specify distribution rights automatically copyrights your work whether you wish it or not. It is also indeterminate who owns copyright for an anonymous work, which would be any code file without an author statement.

dmnalven:

I've spent about 15 minutes searching the Zen-Cart site for contribution license requirements and the Zen-Cart license itself. I can find neither. The only reference to the GPL and licensing requirements I have been able to find at this entire site is the post by Christian in this thread.

Inasmuch as Zen-Cart is a fork of oscommerce, Zen-Cart is necessarily GPL'ed. The GPL license is stipulated in the downloaded code.
Zen Cart is distributed under GPL v2. For the full licence see the licence.txt file in the distribution. The GPL v2 FAQ gives full details on requirements for distributing add-ons, mods etc to work with GPL code (they pretty much have to be under the GPL too).

Regards,
Christian.

CJPinder:

Zen Cart is distributed under GPL v2. For the full licence see the licence.txt file in the distribution. The GPL v2 FAQ gives full details on requirements for distributing add-ons, mods etc to work with GPL code (they pretty much have to be under the GPL too).

Regards,
Christian.

dmnalven:

I've spent about 15 minutes searching the Zen-Cart site for contribution license requirements and the Zen-Cart license itself. I can find neither. The only reference to the GPL and licensing requirements I have been able to find at this entire site is the post by Christian in this thread.

Inasmuch as Zen-Cart is a fork of oscommerce, Zen-Cart is necessarily GPL'ed. The GPL license is stipulated in the downloaded code.

Any contributions without specific licensing are subject to the local laws of the author and/or distributor.

Zen-Cart is very loose in this respect, as are this planets' potpurri of copyright laws. So take your pick. If you wish details, consult a local professional. If you wish to go the FOSS way, specifically add an OSS license to your code.

In the States, failure to specify distribution rights automatically copyrights your work whether you wish it or not. It is also indeterminate who owns copyright for an anonymous work, which would be any code file without an author statement.

This may answer the question:

Does the GPL allow me to require that anyone who receives the software must pay me a fee and/or notify me?
No. In fact, a requirement like that would make the program non-free. If people have to pay when they get a copy of a program, or if they have to notify anyone in particular, then the program is not free. See the definition of free software.

The GPL is a free software license, and therefore it permits people to use and even redistribute the software without being required to pay anyone a fee for doing so.

Source: www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowRequireFee

Ah yes, most of this thread arrives at the correct answer, but by the wrong route!

There is nothing in the GPL to prevent Template 13 from writing templates and applying whatever copyright or licensing he wishes to them. As long as he does not distribute them with Zen Cart, they would remain an independent product and not covered by GPL, even if recipients choose to integrate them with Zen Cart.

However there are two aspects to the approach taken and proposed that render this instance invalid.

Firstly Template 13's templates are not written from scratch, they incorporate Zen Code which is already part of the GPL and therefore the whole falla under it's jurisdiction.

And secondly (and this is less clear) , the proposed requirements appear to contradict the Zen Cart site conditions for submissions.

kuroi:

Firstly Template 13's templates are not written from scratch, they incorporate Zen Code which is already part of the GPL and therefore the whole falla under it's jurisdiction.

Yes, your are right. I've decided to distribute the templates under GPL licence. I'm leaving the link but users have now a right to remove it freely.

Thanks for clearing that up.

templates13:

I've decided to distribute the templates under GPL licence. I'm leaving the link but users have now a right to remove it freely.That's completely compliant with the GPL in letter and spirit.

I hope that you will now receive a warmer welcome than you have to date, but which is merited by the effort that you have put into building your Zen Cart template creation system.