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22 Jul 2009, 3:19 PM
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Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Hi Yellow,

I have my product listing pages set up so that when a customer clicks the "buy it now" button the product is added to their cart without going to the product info page, it stays on the product listing page.

This works fine when SSU is turned off, but when I activate SSU the behaviour changes and pressing the buy it now button instead takes the user to the product info page.

Any ideas on what might be causing this change in behaviour as I would like the user to stay on the product listing page when they press the buy it now button.

Many thanks

22 Jul 2009, 3:48 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

yellow1912:

I believe this question has been answered more than once, and perhaps I should try to put in the FAQ.

  1. Older versions of SSU create more cache files, try to upgrade to the latest one.
  2. SSU caches files based on url, not product or category, so you will always have more cache files than number of products and categories.
  3. No, urls will not end up corrupted. If cache files are deleted, SSU will just regenerate them
  4. New versions of SSU always come with a cron folder which contain a cache cleaning file. You can set up a cronjob to have this file run once per month.

I did try searching the folders for this question, but if you search for Folders or Cache you get pretty much everything. I couldn't figure out how to narrow it down. So it might be good to add it to the docs. I do have the docs bookmarked.

I'm having problems clearing the Alias cache on two of our sites. The other caches clear ok but when I try to reset the Alias it bombs out to a blank browser screen, or "Mysql not accessible" error message.

22 Jul 2009, 3:55 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Hi Yellow I have a question for you. I know you updated my site to Beta 3.7.0 when my site map was not out putting the right URLS. My question is, do I have to upload every file in the Beta 3.7.1 or just what file do I have to upload to change it to the current version of simple seo Beta 3.7.1. Or do I have to upgrade at all. I know you said something about ajax in the next version. Thank you

22 Jul 2009, 5:01 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

planatgenet:

Hi Yellow,

I have my product listing pages set up so that when a customer clicks the "buy it now" button the product is added to their cart without going to the product info page, it stays on the product listing page.

This works fine when SSU is turned off, but when I activate SSU the behaviour changes and pressing the buy it now button instead takes the user to the product info page.

Any ideas on what might be causing this change in behaviour as I would like the user to stay on the product listing page when they press the buy it now button.

Many thanks
What is your SSU version? Where and when did you download it? Can you post a url so I can see the site you are talking about? (you can pm me)

22 Jul 2009, 5:04 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

daffy:

I did try searching the folders for this question, but if you search for Folders or Cache you get pretty much everything. I couldn't figure out how to narrow it down. So it might be good to add it to the docs. I do have the docs bookmarked.

I'm having problems clearing the Alias cache on two of our sites. The other caches clear ok but when I try to reset the Alias it bombs out to a blank browser screen, or "Mysql not accessible" error message.
Clearing the Alias cache does not require mysql connection, but with the cache being cleared all at once new files have to be regenerated when your users access links on the front page, perhaps that's what's causing the message you see?
Are you using 3.6+? Try the "fix cache" option. Also, you can set up the cron to run the cache clearance at night time so it doesnt interfere with the store activity.

22 Jul 2009, 5:06 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

countrycharm:

Hi Yellow I have a question for you. I know you updated my site to Beta 3.7.0 when my site map was not out putting the right URLS. My question is, do I have to upload every file in the Beta 3.7.1 or just what file do I have to upload to change it to the current version of simple seo Beta 3.7.1. Or do I have to upgrade at all. I know you said something about ajax in the next version. Thank you
the 3.7.1 mainly contains fixes for multi language sites, so you actually dont need to upgrade to it right now if your site is using only one language

23 Jul 2009, 6:24 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

yellow1912:

I have never tried that before, but have your cleared out the cache after that? And can you post the exact term you put in the alias and in url fields (in the alias manager)?

Hi Yellow, I've just upgraded to the latest version of SSU...

I have cleared all the cache's and I entered the below into the alias manager:

URL: paul-smith?sort=20a&filter_id=44
ALIAS: paul-smith-tshirts

I cleared the alias cache again and it still won't take it... I've also tried removing filter_id from the list of ignored Query Keys in the admin (does that effect anything else?)

Thanks

24 Jul 2009, 2:56 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

yellow1912:

Okie, so I assume 2 things here:

  1. your current host is localhost
  2. your store is at http://localhost/hotshoes/

Then the correct htaccess is:

BOF SSU

Options +FollowSymLinks -MultiViews
RewriteEngine On

Make sure to change "zencart" to the subfolder you install ZC. If you use root folder, change to: RewriteBase /

RewriteBase /hotshoes/

Deny access from .htaccess

RewriteRule ^.htaccess$ - [F]

#RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^domain.com$ [NC]
#RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.domain.com/$1 [R=301,L]

RewriteCond %{SCRIPT_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{SCRIPT_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule ^(.*) index.php?/$1 [E=VAR1:$1,QSA,L]

EOF SSU

I commented out the www redirection for you because you wouldnt need it till you go online.
What is your version? If you are using 3.5+ you should be able to visit localhost/ssu_check.php and you will see a suggested htaccess content based on your configuration

Hi, yellow

Thanks for your reply. I used winmerge to compare the htaccess you offer above with my old one and find these 2 are almost identical, you use domain but I use example instead. I noticed that you said the ssu_check.php appears under localhost/ but now my ssu_check.php is under /localhost/hotshoes/ for my site root is there. I will give it a try to see any different.

Regards,

24 Jul 2009, 6:15 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Hi Yellow,

I upgraded from 3.6.2 to 3.6.7 and now everything is working very smoothly, and very quickly. No more errors when I reset the cache.

The simplified file structure in the cache is not so overwhelming, as well. I'm very impressed with the newest version so far. Thank you!

Cyndy

24 Jul 2009, 8:03 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Huhm, I dont think it will take a "link" which contains query string in it. There is a way around but that has its own drawback:

  1. In the excluded query list, take out sort and filter id
  2. Now your link will look like this:
    paul-smith/sort/20a/filter_id/44

Now you sure can use that for alias

Regards

24 Jul 2009, 8:07 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

daffy:

I googled this and found out it has something to do with Google's own instructions. The phrase is RECOMMENDED. To tell the truth, I don't understand what this site is talking about (it's very late here)... but if you want to read up on it here's the scoop:

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2007/03/using-robots-meta-tag.html
Daffy, you are reading it wrong. It says that it's recommend to combine many tags into 1 tag if possible, it doesnt say that all sites should use noindex (and obviously most sites should not use this, unless on many pages such as the account pages which should be inaccessible anyway)

I have not got any problem with sites not indexed after installing SSU. The problem is usually because of some incorrect metatags set by users. You can try our own site (rubikintegration.com) and you will see it is indexed well.

Hi Yellow,

I upgraded from 3.6.2 to 3.6.7 and now everything is working very smoothly, and very quickly. No more errors when I reset the cache.

The simplified file structure in the cache is not so overwhelming, as well. I'm very impressed with the newest version so far. Thank you!

Cyndy

Sound great. I have been thinking of a better caching system as well. I will have to run more tests but hopefully we will see continue improvements in the future. If you are worry about the cache growing too big, you can use the cron included in the package, set a cronjob on your host to have this file run every 1-2 week at midnight (or the best time on your site)

24 Jul 2009, 8:11 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

ShoesBuyOnline:

Hi, yellow

Thanks for your reply. I used winmerge to compare the htaccess you offer above with my old one and find these 2 are almost identical, you use domain but I use example instead. I noticed that you said the ssu_check.php appears under localhost/ but now my ssu_check.php is under /localhost/hotshoes/ for my site root is there. I will give it a try to see any different.

Regards,
Yes, should be under "hotshoes", my mistake. In anycase tho, remove the www redirection for now (wait till you actually you go online to put it back), does that help? Can you get it working? If not, can you give details of the error?

24 Jul 2009, 8:15 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

yellow1912:

Huhm, I dont think it will take a "link" which contains query string in it. There is a way around but that has its own drawback:

  1. In the excluded query list, take out sort and filter id
  2. Now your link will look like this:
    paul-smith/sort/20a/filter_id/44

Now you sure can use that for alias

Regards

Thanks Yellow - I tried that but it didn't work...

When I removed the sort and filter_id from the query list and cleared the cache the URL's still looked like

paul-smith?sort=20a&filter_id=44

Here are the current SSU config settings:

File extension
Name delimiter -
ID delimiter -
Set max category level 3
Exclude list advanced_search_result
Set Link Alias Status true
Set minimum word length 0
Set maximum name length 0
Set SSU Status true
Set SSU Multi Language Status false
Set Query Key's Exclude List zenid,gclid,number_of_uploads,number_of_downloads,action,page,disp_order,alpha_filter_id,currency
Set Auto Alias Status true
Set Category Separator /
Hide default language identifier false

Thanks again!

24 Jul 2009, 12:03 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Ah yes, I remember now, in the latest version of SSU I have moved most of the default exclude list to a config file because users usually have problem with this field not setting correctly. So after removing those 2 files from the config in admin, you can edit includes/init_includes/init_ssu.php line 28.

I will think about it in the next version to see how to see if there is any way to ensure both convenience and usability

24 Jul 2009, 12:27 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

yellow1912:

Ah yes, I remember now, in the latest version of SSU I have moved most of the default exclude list to a config file because users usually have problem with this field not setting correctly. So after removing those 2 files from the config in admin, you can edit includes/init_includes/init_ssu.php line 28.

I will think about it in the next version to see how to see if there is any way to ensure both convenience and usability

Thanks Yellow - i'm getting there but it's still not working????

I edit the init_ssu.php file and removed the filters from the exlcude list and that worked fine, URL's now look like:

paul-smith/sort/20a/filter_id/44

But having put that into the alias manager like so:

LINK: paul-smith/sort/20a/filter_id/44
ALAIS: paul-smith/t-shirts (or even paul-smith-t-shirts)

and clearing the cache it still shows paul-smith/sort/20a/filter_id/44 and not the alias?????

24 Jul 2009, 12:28 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Have your cleared SSU cache?

24 Jul 2009, 12:37 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

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Have your cleared SSU cache?

Yep - tried "clear alias cache" and "clear all cache" - still the same...

24 Jul 2009, 12:39 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

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Yep - tried "clear alias cache" and "clear all cache" - still the same...
Huhm, interesting. I wonder why it doesnt work. 1 thing to make sure is that the "alias" should be enabled. If you want, you can create a temp admin login for me and I can peek in there for you.

24 Jul 2009, 12:42 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Thanks Yellow - you have a PM :)

24 Jul 2009, 1:02 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

You cant do a double redirection, you already have

/paul-smith/ set as alias of /paul-smith-manufacturer-19/
You cannot set paul-smith/sort/20a/filter_id/44 -> /paul-smith/tshirts

Setting /paul-smith-manufacturer-19/sort/20a/filter_id/44 -> /paul-smith/tshirts will give you the effect you desire.