Really Puzzled with shipping

Hi, can anyone help.... I need help trying to set up my shipping costs. What I want to do is show goods on my product page with the total cost of the product inc shipping..eg..$25 but when the customer gets to the checkout I want the actual costs showing..eg..$20 + $5 shipping..totalling $25.
I have dozens of items I wish to apply the above to but I cannot find any help anywhere..PLEEEZE Help!!!!!!!

I can't think of any way to do that with the usual Zencart shipping modules.

I also can't imagine a reason you'd want to. Can you describe what you're trying to accomplish? We might be able to come up with another option.

Thanx for help.
On the shopfront I want to advertise my goods as 'what you see is what you pay' so the price showing is including the shipping costs as I do not want the customer to go thru checkout then find out about the extra for shipping.
Eg: The shopfront price would be $25 but when the customer goes thru checkout the price would read $20 for purchase and $5 shipping.
This way the pricing is transparent to the purchaser but the records on my log would all be in order regarding the cost of goods and shipping (& taxes) as seperate entries.
I hope this makes sense as its easier to see in my head that to try and explain. Being a newbie I am getting plenty of information overload.

I see what you're trying to do. The only way I can think of to make that work would be with some custom coding that added the shipping (I assume you're using a Flat Rate) only to the price displayed on the Product Listing and Product Info pages. You might try Commercial Help Wanted.

cheers stevesh, I will try over commercial first and will update this post later. Thanx for your help :smile: