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14 Apr 2008, 7:23 PM
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Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

I've been trying to figure out if it is was possible to apply a discount on certain attributes of a product only?

Our products are table linens and only certain colors (attributes) will be on sale. The rest will have the regular price.

I tried enabling salemaker then going to the attribute controller and disabling the "apply discount on specials" but that didn't work.

Anybody knows if this is possible at all?

14 Apr 2008, 10:34 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

I just figured this out. In case anyone has a better idea, please let me know.

This only works for products NOT priced as attribute. You have to go to the attribute that is for sale then manually put a price in under price - xx.xx where xx.xx is the new price. It shows a new price in the drop down menu and it automatically deducts the price from the base price on checkout.

Decostyle:

I've been trying to figure out if it is was possible to apply a discount on certain attributes of a product only?

Our products are table linens and only certain colors (attributes) will be on sale. The rest will have the regular price.

I tried enabling salemaker then going to the attribute controller and disabling the "apply discount on specials" but that didn't work.

Anybody knows if this is possible at all?

1 Dec 2008, 4:53 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

I'm interested in an answer to this question when the products are priced by attribute, with a base price of $0.00.

1 Dec 2008, 5:33 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Did you try making the Product and marking as Priced by Attribute YES ... then add all of the Attributes and mark the Attributes that don't use the Special/Sale/Discounts as:

Apply Discounts Used
by Product Special/Sale:
No Yes

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1 Dec 2008, 5:37 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

I have a few hundred items in the catalog with an average of 2-3 attributes each, and it doesn't seem very practical to run each of those through the attributes controller to make that change. Is there a faster way than the attributes controller that I could try?

edit: Well let me at least see if this approach works by trying it on one item.

1 Dec 2008, 5:43 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

I tried this with one item, and the sale price displays correctly in the catalog page (the lowest priced attribute is being discounted on this item, so the 'starting at' is crossed out and has the correct sale amount) but the attributes dropdown and the shopping cart display the full price.

I'm also not sure how practical it would be if I wanted to implement this store-wide without a way to change the attribute settings en masse.

1 Dec 2008, 6:26 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Perhaps an URL to this Product would help and a description of what you have the pricing for everything set to ...

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1 Dec 2008, 6:50 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Here's a link to our store: http://appalshop.org/store/

We have set up attributes for our films and records in order to allow customers to select format (VHS, DVD, Cassette, etc.) and licensing (Home Use, Educational, etc -- which only applies to our films).

The only exceptions are some products where we offer one license or format, and some of these items to not have attributes.

We would like to discount CDs and Home Use film licenses by $5.00.

Right now I have come up with a scheme of three sales which kind of gets us where we need to be:

Sale 1: Discounts items in our films and music categories that are between $14 and $31 by $5.00

Sale 2: Discounts items in films that are between $0.00 and $0.00 by $5.00 (Side effect: discounts licenses other than Home Use)

Sale 3: Discounts items in Recordings by Format > CD that are between $0.00 and $0.00 by $5.00 (Side effect: had to reassign these products to use the format category as master category, also discounts formats other than CD for these items)

I might be able to set up a test item or something like that to help you diagnose, but unfortunately we're taking an order or two an hour right now and I don't want to do too much testing that affects the whole store. Do you have any recommendations on how to make it easier to demonstrate what is happening?

1 Dec 2008, 8:39 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Add a Category called TEST and set it to status OFF ...

Now add a subcat called TEST2 and set its status to OFF ...

Now add a couple products and edit, in phpMyAdmin, their products_date_added field to be older than your New Product setting such as change from 2008 to 2006 ...

Now setup 1 of these products as Priced By Attribute and set the prices on the Attribute and set the one that does not get the Special/Discount as:

Apply Discounts Used
by Product Special/Sale:
No Yes

Now add either your Special, Sale or Discounts and tell us which you are using ...

Then post the products_id for these ...

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2 Dec 2008, 3:40 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Thank you very much for looking into this. I have set up some disabled categories and products, so please forgive me for asking this, but how do I view the test products?

I have browsed to an item that is in the regular catalog and changed the URL to use the test product ID but I am getting an error "Sorry, the product was not found."

2 Dec 2008, 5:52 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Make sure the Product is active ... we block you from viewing products marked as inactive as you could be a customer trying to "peek" ... :eek:

The hidden Cats were so you did not have to worry about prying eyes finding things as easily ...

NOTE: when done playing be sure to set the Product to inactive again ...

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9 Dec 2008, 5:44 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

I am very sorry to have taken this long to get back to you. We're very busy here, which is good. But it turns out that even my workaround I described earlier is not working properly, which is not good.

It does mean that I can send you right to a page in our catalog to see the issue I'm struggling with:

http://appalshop.org/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=46_49&products_id=353

This product is, I think, set up how you asked. The SaleMaker is set to discount items in this category priced between 0.00 and 0.00 by 33%. Only the attribute for the CD format is set to be factored in the sale price.

As you can see, the page currently does two things that aren't right: it advertises a discount on the download (which is not on sale) and doesn't discount the CD when it is added to the cart.

Is this item going to be sufficient to allow troubleshooting?

9 Dec 2008, 8:14 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

What is the Product Price?

What are the Attribute Prices?

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9 Dec 2008, 8:37 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Ajeh:

What is the Product Price?

What are the Attribute Prices?

Product price is 0.00
Attribute price for CD is 14.99, for download it's 12.99

9 Dec 2008, 11:53 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

I cannot break this ...

Make sure you have set the Sale as:
Deduction: 33.0000 Percent
Pricerange: $0.00 to $0.00
Specials Condition: Apply SaleDeduction to Specials Price - Otherwise Apply to Price

Make sure on the Attributes are all set to be included in the base price and that all that get the sale are:
Apply Discounts Used
by Product Special/Sale: YES

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10 Dec 2008, 5:04 AM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

I'm attaching screen shots of the attribute controller and the salemaker configuration for that item - maybe that will bring our issue to light?

10 Dec 2008, 7:06 AM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Try this setting:
**Specials Condition: Apply SaleDeduction to Specials Price - Otherwise Apply to Price
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10 Dec 2008, 1:15 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Ajeh:

Try this setting:
**Specials Condition: Apply SaleDeduction to Specials Price - Otherwise Apply to Price
**

I've made that change, but I don't think it has affected how the item is displayed or priced in the shopping cart.

10 Dec 2008, 3:30 PM
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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Do you use Linked Products?

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Re: Can I apply discount on certain attributes only?

Ajeh:

Do you use Linked Products?

Yes, do you think that might be hurting us?

For this particular product, the primary category is "June Appal Recordings by Format -> CD - Compact Discs" and it is linked into the catch-all category "June Appal Recordings."

The sale is applied to the item's primary category (CD - Compact Discs)