Reward Points Module for ZC v13x

Hi bem,

First of all thank you for this great add-on. Would like to ask is this feature:

Feature Request -- the ability to select how many Reward Points to spend..

Avaible yet? Thank you.

Sorry typo error,

Is that feature I mention above available yet?

littlehawk:

When customers use discount coupon and reward points together, the reward points are based on the subtotal.
Is there a way to reward subtotal minus discount only, say 190?
$200.00Sub-Total:
$5.00Flat Rate (Best Way):
-$10.00Discount Coupon: A001002 :
$195.00Total:
200Reward Points earned:

Hi,
I also noticed this problem. It seems logical to not give points for something that haven't been paid.
Has it been updated ? This is the only problem before I go on production :-)

Hope this great addon will be included into zencart v2 modules.
Thanks a lot Hem (and all zc team !)

version used : 1-26a

M a C:

Sorry typo error,

Is that feature I mention above available yet?

It's on the wishlist.

fawzi:

Hi,
I also noticed this problem. It seems logical to not give points for something that haven't been paid.
Has it been updated ? This is the only problem before I go on production :-)

Hope this great addon will be included into zencart v2 modules.
Thanks a lot Hem (and all zc team !)

version used : 1-26a

Calculate your points against total and it should do what you want.

hem:

Calculate your points against total and it should do what you want.

Hi,
Thank you for this quick reply.
Yes it works, but my problem with this method, it's that shipping amount is also substracted from the total (if earned points amount is bigger than subtotal amount).
In this case, I want the subtotal to be zero, but not the total. The customer should pay at minimum the shipping costs. That's also why I wanted to use subtotal in redeem calculation.

hem:

I am updating the Reward Point award to take in to account its sort order in the order totals- That will give you better control of removal of Reward Points due to items like coupons and gift vouchers.
This seems to be the best solution. Waiting for this update ;)

Have a good day, and thanks again.

Fawzi

I've been trying to re-think the various approaches to calculating the Reward Points- There are three ways I see of doing it:

1. Calculate points based on each product purchased. This has the advantage of being able to adjust points by product and group and would allow you to do things like have a Double Point Special for particular items. The downside is that the configuration of this type of Reward Point mod is very advanced because some people want attributes included in the calculation, others don't. Some want the specials to be included... well you get the picture.

2. Calculate the points based on the "bottom line"- That is the subtotal or the total. This is a lot easier to implement- no need to sum the points in the shopping cart- Just take the bottom line and calculate the points based on that. The downside of this config is that you cannot specify differing Point ratios for particular products or groups. And you can't have Point Specials.

So that brings us to scenario number 3: A hybrid of #1 and #2. Points are calculated per product- but then are adjusted by the difference between the "bottom line" and any other Order Total mods depending on the sort order of the Reward Point mod. This will allow for product and group specific Award Ratios and Specials but will compensate for any discounts and gift vouchers (as long as the RP Mod has a higher sort order than them).

Anyone have any thoughts or queries on this???

I like version #3 the best.

Some added points.

1: The shipping and handling charges should never be affected by reward points. Therefore the S&H should always be what it is based on the item and quantity ordered.

2: The ability to insure that the subtotal never goes below 1. This way, shipped orders are always considered paid orders and not giveaways or FREE shipments whch can cause issues with customs without the proper paperwork.

3: Future consideration. The ability to share award points with others or securely transfer reward points to other Zen Cart shops using the reward poiints add-on. This will certainly encourage other shops to cross promote each other. A simple conversion ratio or small added fee to transfer points should allow participating shops to minimize their losses based on transfered reward points.

This is a great add-on!

But, I REALLY need an option that will allow me to turn off the reward feature for the default group "none". I want to use the default group "none" for non-members. I want to use the other 4 groups (A-B-C-D) for members and those groups earn points only. I want the non-members group to earn no points.

Currently I can make the global point redeem ratio zero and give each of the other groups a different redemtion value, but the "none" group still recieves points with no value. I would like for this "none" group to see no point value and accumulation at all.

I hope you can help me!!!:D

Thanks

hem:

I've been trying to re-think the various approaches to calculating the Reward Points- There are three ways I see of doing it:

Anyone have any thoughts or queries on this???

HEM, all Good Morning

One small thought - the existing contribution is a cracking piece of work - thank you Andrew. I know I am still learning and thinking about how I can use it to best effect. How about a summarized guide or compendium? Or has this already been done!

Cheers

Centec2b

We loaded this a few months ago with very high hopes. It, as everyone knows, does not automatically post points to Paypal IPN transactions. I have had to go in and manually update. I was not pleased, but it was workable and at least I could keep what I advertised.

However, at some point the mod has failed at a higher level. Now when a customer goes to redeem points, no matter how many they have in the bank they can only select $1. It is a default. Here is an snap from the cart:

*You may click to redeem any collected Reward Points. Your redeemed points will be applied to the total and reflected in your cart after to click continue.

Current Reward Points:
5500 points earned

Maximum allowed to redeem:
100% points maximum

Value of Redeemed Reward Points:
$1.00*

As you can see, although I have 5500 points, I can only redeem $1.00. My ratio of earned is .01 for every point. I should be able to redeem anywhere up to $55.00.

Can anyone tell me why this is happening? I have the value set to redeem 100% of their points. I am wondering if there is a setting I may have goofed up.

Thank you so much for your help. I have very frustrated customers and will probably have to take this out of the store if I can't resolve it in the next few days.

Kind regards,
Kate

Heritage Scrap:

We loaded this a few months ago with very high hopes. It, as everyone knows, does not automatically post points to Paypal IPN transactions. I have had to go in and manually update. I was not pleased, but it was workable and at least I could keep what I advertised.

However, at some point the mod has failed at a higher level. Now when a customer goes to redeem points, no matter how many they have in the bank they can only select $1. It is a default. Here is an snap from the cart:

*You may click to redeem any collected Reward Points. Your redeemed points will be applied to the total and reflected in your cart after to click continue.

Current Reward Points:
5500 points earned

Maximum allowed to redeem:
100% points maximum

Value of Redeemed Reward Points:
$1.00*

As you can see, although I have 5500 points, I can only redeem $1.00. My ratio of earned is .01 for every point. I should be able to redeem anywhere up to $55.00.

Can anyone tell me why this is happening? I have the value set to redeem 100% of their points. I am wondering if there is a setting I may have goofed up.

Thank you so much for your help. I have very frustrated customers and will probably have to take this out of the store if I can't resolve it in the next few days.

Kind regards,
Kate

Kate- The percentage value is not working on that version- Just reset 'Maximum allowed to redeem' and the mod should work fine. I have got this feature working on the current version which I'm debugging at the moment. It should go live shortly. And I might have a solution for the Paypal IPN issue- Though it does involve a hack of the Paypal mod.

Centec2b:

HEM, all Good Morning

One small thought - the existing contribution is a cracking piece of work - thank you Andrew. I know I am still learning and thinking about how I can use it to best effect. How about a summarized guide or compendium? Or has this already been done!

Cheers

Centec2b

I started work on a manual last Christmas but it got bogged down with the number of updates. I'm hope the next release should hopefully be the last big one and I can get back to it.

I think this module is great. Although, it appears that I am having one problem. The module is not correctly calculating reward points when Quantity Discounts are involved. For some reason it is still calculating off of the regular price and not the discounted volume price. It calculates fine for specials but not for quantity discounts.

I have been reading through this thread. I am just get more confused about "Reward Point Rounding" Perhaps someone will spell out how to the following entries would function.

0.0
0.25
0.5
2.5
-2.0

I am using the following software:
Zen Cart: 1.3.8
Rewards: 1.26A

Asgoroth:

I have been reading through this thread. I am just get more confused about "Reward Point Rounding" Perhaps someone will spell out how to the following entries would function.

0.0
0.25
0.5
2.5
-2.0

I am using the following software:
Zen Cart: 1.3.8
Rewards: 1.26A

Say the total value of purchases was €9.50 and you gave 1 reward point per euro then you get:

0.0 gives 10 rp
0.25 gives 9 rp
0.5 gives 9 rp
2.5 gives 7 rp
-2.0 gives 12 rp

hem:

Say the total value of purchases was €9.50 and you gave 1 reward point per euro then you get:

0.0 gives 10 rp
0.25 gives 9 rp
0.5 gives 9 rp
2.5 gives 7 rp
-2.0 gives 12 rp

Thank you. I believe I understand the function now. The listed value is subtracted from the purchase value BEFORE it is rounded. This would allows for modifying the rounding threshold. To change the round up point from .50 to .75 a setting of 0.25 would be entered.

I would like to suggest that a simple example be added to the setting configuration area.

Before I post this. I would like to express my thanks for your hard work building and maintaining this module. It has been a wonderful tool for our site.

Bryan

I am having a problem with quantity discounts. Is there something I am doing wrong because it doesn't seem to calculate the rewards points correctly.

Asgoroth:

Thank you. I believe I understand the function now. The listed value is subtracted from the purchase value BEFORE it is rounded. This would allows for modifying the rounding threshold. To change the round up point from .50 to .75 a setting of 0.25 would be entered.

I would like to suggest that a simple example be added to the setting configuration area.

Before I post this. I would like to express my thanks for your hard work building and maintaining this module. It has been a wonderful tool for our site.

Bryan

No problem- I will add a description of the function as well as a couple of examples to the config item.

Pablo1719:

I am having a problem with quantity discounts. Is there something I am doing wrong because it doesn't seem to calculate the rewards points correctly.

The RP calculation is quite complex and does not take into account "external" discounts and vouchers. Have you tried calculating the RP on Subtotal instead of Individual Item?