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2 Jul 2008, 4:58 PM
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Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

I have reviewed practically all of the posts regarding this subject and have tried everything with no results. I have products that weigh anywhere from 4-50 pounds. However, when I simulate an order for let's say a 4 pound item, it shows up as 8 pounds in my shopping cart and then when I log in I see in my shipping method zone rate, "Shipping to US (1 x 17.00lb(s)) ".

On the product edit page in the backend, the location for placing the product shipping weight has "4" as its value.

I have tried adjusting for ounces and bringing the amount to a decimal form but it still stays around the 9-10 pounds when I make the weight less. I have zeroed out package tares in the shipping configuration. Can anyone help? This is frustrating.

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2 Jul 2008, 6:58 PM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

What settings exactly are in the Tare settings?

How exactly do you have the Zones setup?

Pasting might be better than retyping on this ...

2 Jul 2008, 7:34 PM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

Thanks for replying. My Tare small to medium is 0:0 the larger packages is 0:0
I'm currently experimenting with my home state Californiia so my zone rates are set as:

Enable Zones Method
True

Calculation Method
Weight

Tax Class
no tax

Tax Basis
Billing

Sort Order
0

Zone 1 Countries
US,CA

Zone 1 Shipping Table
1:4.46,2:4.99,3:5.24,4:5.50,5:5.76,6:5.86,7:6.00,8:6.16,9:6.29,10:6.44,11:6.56,12:6.71,13:6.82

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

2 Jul 2008, 7:49 PM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

Zone 1 Countries
US,CA
This means United States and Canada ... :unsure:

These rates only define up to 13 lbs:

Zone 1 Shipping Table
1:4.46,2:4.99,3:5.24,4:5.50,5:5.76,6:5.86,7:6.00,8:6.16,9:6.29,10:6.44,11:6.56,12:6.71,13:6.82

Is that what you mean to say?

2 Jul 2008, 8:34 PM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

Yes, there are actually rates up o 100 pounds but I thought I would leave those out snce it would be redundant information

3 Jul 2008, 4:05 PM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

What is your Maximum weight shipped set to?

4 Jul 2008, 2:20 AM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

I have a maximum weight of 150

4 Jul 2008, 3:28 AM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

Could you copy and paste your whole definition for the Zone without cutting anything out of it ...

Is there an URL to a particular Product that we could peek at and see what is happening on your site?

4 Jul 2008, 6:20 AM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

**Thanks again. Here is the information you requested:

The product link is:**

http://ceedtv.com/ceedmarket/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=51&products_id=1932

The zone information is copied below:

Zone Based Rates

Enable Zones Method
True

Calculation Method
Weight

Tax Class
no tax

Tax Basis
Billing

Sort Order
0

Skip Countries, use a comma separated list of the two character ISO country codes

Zone 1 Countries
US,CA

Zone 1 Shipping Table
1:4.46,2:4.99,3:5.24,4:5.50,5:5.76,6:5.86,7:6.00,8:6.16,9:6.29,10:6.44,11:6.56,12:6.71,13:6.82,14:6.96,15:7.08,16:7.19,17:7.41,18:7.65,19:7.94,20:8.22,21:8.48,22:8.78,23:9.07,24:9.37,25:9.66,26:9.95,27:10.24,28:10.56,29:10.87,30:11.20,31:11.49,32:11.80,33:12.10,34:12.39,35:12.70,36:12.97,37:13.26, 38:13.56,39:13.86,40:14.16,41:14.44,42:14.72,43:15.02,44:15.27,45:15.55,46:15.78,47:16.03,48:16.28,49:16.52,50:16.74,51:16.97,52:17.18,53:17.38,54:17.61,55:17.78,56:17.98,57:18.17,58:18.38,59:18.59,60:18.80,61:19.00,62:19.17,63:19.35,64:19.55,65:19.78,66:20.00,67:20.20,68:20.39,69:20.58,70:20.78, 71:20.93,72:21.28,73:21.78,74:22.45,75:23.10,76:23.75,77:24.40,78:25.05,79:25.70,80:26.35,81:27.00,82:27.65,83:28.30,84:28.92,85:29.53,86:30.16,87:30.88,88:31.51,89:32.12,90:32.74,91:33.48,92:34.10,93:34.83,94:35.44,95:36.16,96:36.89,97:37.51,98:38.23,99:38.96,100:39.68,101:40.40,102:40.89,103:41.4, 104:41.91,105:42.41,106:42.92,107:43.43,108:43.94,109:44.44,110:44.97,111:45.49,112:46.00,113:46.53,114:47.04,115:47.58,116:48.11,117:48.62,118:49.16,119:49.69,120:50.23,121:50.76,122:51.30,123:51.85,124:52.39,125:52.93,126:53.48,127:54.03,128:54.58,129:55.14,130:55.67,131:56.24,132:56.80,133:57.36, 134:57.93,135:58.49,136:59.06,137:59.62,138:60.19,139:60.76,140:61.33,141:61.91,142:62.48,143:63.07,144:63.65,145:64.23,146:64.81,147:65.41,148:65.99,149:66.58,150:67.18

Zone 1 Handling Fee
0

Shipping Configuration settings are below:

Country of Origin United States
Postal Code 94612
Enter the Maximum Package Weight you will ship 150
Package Tare Small to Medium - added percentage:weight 0:0
Larger packages - added packaging percentage:weight 0:0
Display Number of Boxes and Weight Status 3
Order Free Shipping 0 Weight Status 1
Shipping Estimator Display Settings for Shopping Cart 0

1 Item placed in the shopping cart:

Your Shopping Cart Contents
Review the items in your cart. If you need to make corrections, please return to the items you want and make your corrections before checkout. We accept payment through Paypal and by check or money order. Please make checks payable to CEED Enterprises LLC. Allow 2 weeks for processing check orders.
Total Items: 1 Weight: 4lbs Amount: $26.25

Shipping method AFTER logging in:

Shipping Method:
This is currently the only shipping method available to use on this order.
Zone Rates
$6.82Shipping to US (1 x 13.00lb(s))

4 Jul 2008, 9:37 PM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

I added that product to the cart and went to checkout ... I saw 4lbs in the cart and saw 4lbs for $5.50 on the checkout_shipping page ...

I am not seeing anything broken yet ...

Your Total
Sub-Total: $26.25
Zone Rates (Shipping to US (1 x 4.00lb(s))): $5.50
Total: $31.75

5 Jul 2008, 1:39 AM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

Thanks for giving this a try...very interesting...I tried by logging in as myself from my home state of CA and got the following:

Step 1 of 3 - Delivery Information
Shipping Information:

Russ
XXXX Sharps Avenue
Cl, CA 93XXX
United States
Your order will be shipped to the address at the left or you may change the shipping address by clicking the Change Address button.

Shipping Method:
This is currently the only shipping method available to use on this order.
Zone Rates
$6.82
Shipping to US (1 x 13.00lb(s))

I then tried a fictitious name sign in from let's say in Texas and got this:

Step 1 of 3 - Delivery Information
Shipping Information:

Ralph Lee
1212 Sawyer Drive
Dallas, TX 75201
United States
Your order will be shipped to the address at the left or you may change the shipping address by clicking the Change Address button.

Shipping Method:
This is currently the only shipping method available to use on this order.
Zone Rates
$5.50
Shipping to US (1 x 4.00lb(s))

It appears correct so what do you think may be the problem since the California address is the state of origin for the company?

5 Jul 2008, 3:47 AM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

I went to your site and made a California address and I still get the 4lbs with the $5.50 charge for shipping ...

Can you add a new address to your account and make a new California address and see if it works?

5 Jul 2008, 4:09 PM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

Will do! I will let you know what happens in a few minutes

5 Jul 2008, 4:19 PM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

Hi Ajeh,

That is so odd. Okay, I did what you requested and received the following:

Step 1 of 3 - Delivery Information
Shipping Information:

Randal Teslac
12 Paxton Avenue
San Francisco, CA 94116
United States
Your order will be shipped to the address at the left or you may change the shipping address by clicking the Change Address button.
Shipping Method:
This is currently the only shipping method available to use on this order.
Zone Rates
$5.50Shipping to US (1 x 4.00lb(s))

I don't quite understand why my own personal account shows the added weight...very odd! Any possible ideas as to what the problem was? I really appreciate your help. Another question...any idea on how to create rates for states or provinces?

6 Jul 2008, 12:35 AM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

Hi Ajeh!

I FOUND THE PROBLEM! No answer but I at least know what the problem is. I tried fictious customer sign-ins from different states including California with no problem.

THE PROBLEM actually occurs when a user forgets their password and requests a new one. When the user puts in the new password sent by email and orders a product, the weight is thrown off. I am including the results from ordering the same 4 pound item below. Any suggestions?

Step 1 of 3 - Delivery Information
Shipping Information:

Ralkp Welllss
1212 Pollasky Avenue
Clovis, CA 93611
United States
Your order will be shipped to the address at the left or you may change the shipping address by clicking the Change Address button.

Shipping Method:
This is currently the only shipping method available to use on this order.
Zone Rates
$6.00
Shipping to US (1 x 7.00lb(s))

7 Jul 2008, 3:45 AM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

I add 1 to cart ...

I hit checkout ...

It askes for login ... I say forgotten password ...

It sends me a new password ... I login ...

I am still 4lbs ... :unsure:

How about a very, very slow click for click on how you are making this happen as I cannot reproduce this ...

7 Jul 2008, 7:18 AM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

HOW FRUSTRATING! It doesn’t like me ☹ Okay let’s try this one, one step at a a time.

I find a product, Enfamil and order it. I click ADD THIS TO MY CART.

It reads:

Your Shopping Cart Contents
Review the items in your cart. If you need to make corrections, please return to the items you want and make your corrections before checkout. We accept payment through Paypal and by check or money order. Please make checks payable to CEED Enterprises LLC. Allow 2 weeks for processing check orders.
Total Items: 1 Weight: 4lbs Amount: $26.25

I click go to checkout it asks to enter email address and password. I click FORGOT YOUR PASSWORD

I enter my email address..it tells me a new password has been sent.

I check my email and copy the password

And go to the delivery method screen….and….

I get 4 pounds Oh God! Now it works LOL I don’t know why its working now but I guess all is fine. Oh well.. I really do appreciate your help. If it happens again down the line, maybe I will start a new thread

7 Jul 2008, 2:31 PM
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Re: Shipping Rate for Zone is Different

Do you hear the spooky music, too ... or just the voices ... :eek:

Thanks for letting us know that this is now working for you ... :smile: