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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
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Originally Posted by
dw08gm
This issue has been raised several times, and not just by me, in this thread since 2007, and even your kind self has posted on this matter.
While a workaround of resizing the gif to the category image size has been suggested, I have yet to achieve this with my gif, which was supplied to me by a graphic artist long since vannished, and which appears to be locked against any amount of editing.
And here was my response that you reference.. The short answer is still no.. IH2 (or IH3) does not support animated GIFs. The reason why is in the threads I posted as reference 2/3 years ago..
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Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
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Originally Posted by
dw08gm
An alternative solution to this problem may be to exclude this one image and its category from IH, however, I have really no idea how to do this.
Probably possible.. Would require LOTS of coding to achieve I'm sure.. It's outside the scope of my abilities, and I'm not sure there's an overall benefit to adding this to the codebase..
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Maybe I'm a little bit late but I have to say it...
NOBODY will say it better than "THE DIVA" on that post #6789, which is BTW a very cute number.... isn't?
Diva you rock :hug: here's my gift for you:
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._4045525_n.jpg
My daughter took that picture few days ago from our apartment. ENJOY!
We are all here to help, learn, share experiences, and have a good time while doing it. Even laughing at OURSELVES when we say "duh" I forgot to ....
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
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Originally Posted by
ideasgirl
Maybe I'm a little bit late but I have to say it...
NOBODY will say it better than "THE DIVA" on that post #6789, which is BTW a very cute number.... isn't?
Thanks for that..:hug: Sometimes it's discouraging sometimes around here when people mistake HELP for something else.. I don't understand that..:no:
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Originally Posted by
ideasgirl
Now you're just being mean teasing me!!:laugh::laugh:
GREAT view.. **sigh** Did I MENTION how much I LOVED Puerto Rico??? **sigh**
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Originally Posted by
ideasgirl
We are all here to help, learn, share experiences, and have a good time while doing it. Even laughing at OURSELVES when we say "duh" I forgot to ....
EXACTLY!! Well stated!!!:clap:
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Now you're just being mean teasing me!!
Apologies if your feathers were ruffled, but that was NOT the intent of my gift. :laugh:
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GREAT view.. **sigh** Did I MENTION how much I LOVED Puerto Rico???
:rolleyes: Yup!
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ideasgirl
Apologies if your feathers were ruffled, but that was NOT the intent of my gift. :laugh:
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
You don't say WHICH version of IH2 you are running, but if it's an older version, the answer probably lies in upgrading to either the most recent IH2 version or upgrading to IH3.
a link to your site would be a HUGE help (and a link to the specific product you are having the issue with)
Hi DivaVocals,
My apologize, my problem wasn't anything to do with IH2, it was a script problem in Zen Lightbox.
Thanks and sorry for wasting your time :)
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Is IH2 good for flash site?
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
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Originally Posted by
hara
Is IH2 good for flash site?
Suggest you figure out first which version you want to use versus posting redundant questions in BOTH support threads.. Though I dunno why you would want to install the OLD version as a new install..
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
I install version 3 of IH and its working great but I geting in cache error
Code:
PHP Warning: htmlentities() [<a href='function.htmlentities'>function.htmlentities</a>]: Invalid multibyte sequence in argument in /includes/classes/bmz_image_handler.class.php on line 690
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
vescera
I install version 3 of IH and its working great but I geting in cache error
Code:
PHP Warning: htmlentities() [<a href='function.htmlentities'>function.htmlentities</a>]: Invalid multibyte sequence in argument in /includes/classes/bmz_image_handler.class.php on line 690
Please post in the correct support thread..
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Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Woo Hooo! I can't wait to try this out. I had a suggestion for this vary thing and
Diva politely suggested I wait a couple days.
Thanks to everyone who made this happen!
I'll be back with questions if needed!!!!!
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Hi, ZC user.
I have install Image Handled 2 end in file on server I have dir: ''bmz_cache/4/''
in thet file are stored pictures like: 4fd844ba36ea08427b9e695cf113ffde.image.92x90.gif
can I DELETE all thet picture??? :blush:
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
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Originally Posted by
kobra8
Hi, ZC user.
I have install Image Handled 2 end in file on server I have dir: ''bmz_cache/4/''
in thet file are stored pictures like: 4fd844ba36ea08427b9e695cf113ffde.image.92x90.gif
can I DELETE all thet picture??? :blush:
You can delete the contents of the bmz_cache directory, but if IH2 is still installed and active, it will recreate the files/folders in the bmz_cache folder.
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
When you install Image Handler2, it makes copies of all the images it handles. It then optimizes those images and saves them in various sizes in the bmz_cache folder.
Then, when a page is loaded, it serves up the images from the bmz_cache folder instead of serving up your original images which, I presume, are larger and bigger files.
This makes your site work faster and lowers the amount of bandwidth used every time a page loads.
If you delete those files, as Diva said, Image Handler2 will just recreate them as long as the mod is installed and active. This is because IH2 needs the bmz_cache and the files inside it in order to function properly.
You should only delete those folders if:
- you are uninstalling Image Handler2, or
- you recently made a lot of changes to your images and need to clear the cache in order for IH2 to create a new cache of the new images.
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Originally Posted by
kobra8
Hi, ZC user.
I have install Image Handled 2 end in file on server I have dir: ''bmz_cache/4/''
in thet file are stored pictures like: 4fd844ba36ea08427b9e695cf113ffde.image.92x90.gif
can I DELETE all thet picture??? :blush:
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
What she said because she's 2 hours ahead of me and probably had coffee already when she posted.. Whereas I was sleep deprived and coffeeless when I answered previously..:laugh:
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Originally Posted by
ScriptJunkie
When you install Image Handler2, it makes copies of all the images it handles. It then optimizes those images and saves them in various sizes in the bmz_cache folder.
Then, when a page is loaded, it serves up the images from the bmz_cache folder instead of serving up your original images which, I presume, are larger and bigger files.
This makes your site work faster and lowers the amount of bandwidth used every time a page loads.
If you delete those files, as Diva said, Image Handler2 will just recreate them as long as the mod is installed and active.
This is because IH2 needs the bmz_cache and the files inside it in order to function properly.
You should only delete those folders if:
- you are uninstalling Image Handler2, or
- you recently made a lot of changes to your images and need to clear the cache in order for IH2 to create a new cache of the new images.
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Thanks on reply :smile:
The problem is thet picture in bmz thet Image Handler make have perrmision 666, end every time I have to go end change in 644 or 444.
Are have some way to IH make 644 thet images?
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
I have a "blond moment" question concerning IH 2 or 3 no matter....
I like to post the image link in my forums or other places to show off the items that get added new and was wondering...when we clear the cache for IH and it recreates the images...will the ones posted disappear from site or does it recreate them...without renaming them?:unsure:
btw I love the read me in IH3 and it updates beautifully.
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
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Originally Posted by
DarkAngel
I have a "blond moment" question concerning IH 2 or 3 no matter....
I like to post the image link in my forums or other places to show off the items that get added new and was wondering...when we clear the cache for IH and it recreates the images...will the ones posted disappear from site or does it recreate them...without renaming them?:unsure:
btw I love the read me in IH3 and it updates beautifully.
When the cache is recreated, new image names are generated.. Better to link to original image or create a parallel, separate library of images for the purpose of displaying them elsewhere.. I would never directly link to anything in the Image Handler image cache.. It's too much of a moving target..
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
thanks diva, I thought as much from my host move and all the images going poof from threads...lol
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
LOL...yeah it's so hard to function in the morning without some caffeine in your system!
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Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
What she said because she's 2 hours ahead of me and probably had coffee already when she posted.. Whereas I was sleep deprived and coffeeless when I answered previously..:laugh:
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
The permission level of 0666 for the images in the bmz_cache folder is as it should be. No doubt you're worried about the security of the images being set at 0666 instead of 0664.
There are three reasons not to worry about this:
1. The images in the bmz_cache folder are not your original images. They are optimized copies.
2. The permission level of 0666 is necessary for IH2 to operate effectively and is perfectly secure in this instance.
3. The bmz_cache folder contains an .htaccess file for added security.
In other words, you should leave those settings alone.
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Originally Posted by
kobra8
Thanks on reply :smile:
The problem is thet picture in bmz thet Image Handler make have perrmision 666, end every time I have to go end change in 644 or 444.
Are have some way to IH make 644 thet images?
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Thanks Junkie, I change in 666 byt I don't have .htaccess file.
I will put thet file manual, but can you please tell what to write in thet file.
Is this o.k.???
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# $Id: .htaccess 1105 2005-04-04 22:05:35Z birdbrain $
#
# This is used with Apache WebServers
# The following blocks direct HTTP requests in this directory recursively
#
# For this to work, you must include the parameter 'Limit' to the AllowOverride configuration
#
# Example:
#
#<Directory "/usr/local/apache/htdocs">
# AllowOverride Limit
#
# 'All' with also work. (This configuration is in your apache/conf/httpd.conf file)
#
# This does not affect PHP include/require functions
#
# Example: http://server/catalog/includes/application_top.php will not work
<Files *.php>
Order Deny,Allow
Deny from all
</Files>
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
I ve downloaded IH2 and installed it.
Additional images are showing up BUT WHEN PRESS ON IT ORIGINAL IMAGE SHOWS UP!!
Is there way to make sure that additional original image enlarge and not 1 image added.
I am sure some one run into it but there is 600 pages and I am not sure if I have time to read it.
Thank you
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
@ kobra8
this is what sould be in the .htaccess
Code:
# deny *everything*
<FilesMatch ".*">
Order Allow,Deny
Deny from all
</FilesMatch>
# but now allow just *certain* necessary files:
<FilesMatch ".*\.(jpe?g|JPE?G|gif|GIF|png|PNG|swf|SWF)$" >
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from all
</FilesMatch>
IndexIgnore */*
Options -Indexes
and Diva, correct if I am wrong, but wasn't this the same file as in the default image folder?
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
bobby
I ve downloaded IH2 and installed it.
Additional images are showing up BUT WHEN PRESS ON IT ORIGINAL IMAGE SHOWS UP!!
Is there way to make sure that additional original image enlarge and not 1 image added.
I am sure some one run into it but there is 600 pages and I am not sure if I have time to read it.
Thank you
[FONT=Tahoma]When posting bugs/issues[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma], it's a WHOLE LOT more helpful to resolve them if you post details. Just saying "it's broken" or "doesn't work" does not provide nearly enough information to help YOU resolve YOUR issue.
Please provide as MUCH information as possible including:
[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]The version of Zen Cart you are running[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]The version of Image Handler 3 you are running (you can see this by going to “Admin > Tools > Image Handler3” – the version is displayed in the upper left hand side)[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]Any other add-ons you may have also installed[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]Hosting/server information (PHP versions, mySQL versions, hosting provider etc)[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]The EXACT error/issue you are experiencing [/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]AND if you're REALLY detail oriented, tell us the install sequence/method you used to install Image Handler 3.[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]Post a link (not a screen print) to a specific product/product listing page where the issue you are experiencing can be seen (Please DO NOT make folks fish through your site looking for an example of your issue)
AND this last point is important.. The volunteers who help here need to SEE what you see LIVE. A screenprint really isn’t good enough.[/FONT]
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
The last version of IH2 includes the .htaccess file so there should be no need to create it at all.. (and yes it's the same one included in the images directory in Zen Cart v1.3.9)
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Originally Posted by
kobra8
Thanks Junkie, I change in 666 byt I don't have .htaccess file.
I will put thet file manual, but can you please tell what to write in thet file.
Is this o.k.???
...................
# $Id: .htaccess 1105 2005-04-04 22:05:35Z birdbrain $
#
# This is used with Apache WebServers
# The following blocks direct HTTP requests in this directory recursively
#
# For this to work, you must include the parameter 'Limit' to the AllowOverride configuration
#
# Example:
#
#<Directory "/usr/local/apache/htdocs">
# AllowOverride Limit
#
# 'All' with also work. (This configuration is in your apache/conf/httpd.conf file)
#
# This does not affect PHP include/require functions
#
# Example:
http://server/catalog/includes/application_top.php will not work
<Files *.php>
Order Deny,Allow
Deny from all
</Files>
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Originally Posted by
Design75
@ kobra8
this is what sould be in the .htaccess
Code:
# deny *everything*
<FilesMatch ".*">
Order Allow,Deny
Deny from all
</FilesMatch>
# but now allow just *certain* necessary files:
<FilesMatch ".*\.(jpe?g|JPE?G|gif|GIF|png|PNG|swf|SWF)$" >
Order Allow,Deny
Allow from all
</FilesMatch>
IndexIgnore */*
Options -Indexes
and Diva, correct if I am wrong, but wasn't this the same file as in the default image folder?
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
I had to restore my site as it crashed after I tried to uninstall and reinstall IH2. Luckily I had a recent backup so my site is up and running again.
However, I'm unable to upload my bmz_cache folder. I've even tried to make a new folder with the name bmz_cache for IH2 to use but I'm not allowed to do that either.
It all began to go wrong when I read that you should change the bmz_cache folder's properties. When I did that the whole bmz-cache folder disappeared.
Any idea how I can get my bmz_cache folder uploaded again ?
Cheers,
Kim
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Honestly this sounds like an issue with permissions on your host.. I suggest contacting your web host and see if they can walk you through re-creating the bmz_cache folder with the correct permissions.
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Originally Posted by
PUREchocolatetruffle
I had to restore my site as it crashed after I tried to uninstall and reinstall IH2. Luckily I had a recent backup so my site is up and running again.
However, I'm unable to upload my bmz_cache folder. I've even tried to make a new folder with the name bmz_cache for IH2 to use but I'm not allowed to do that either.
It all began to go wrong when I read that you should change the bmz_cache folder's properties. When I did that the whole bmz-cache folder disappeared.
Any idea how I can get my bmz_cache folder uploaded again ?
Cheers,
Kim
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
PUREchocolatetruffle
I had to restore my site as it crashed after I tried to uninstall and reinstall IH2. Luckily I had a recent backup so my site is up and running again.
However, I'm unable to upload my bmz_cache folder. I've even tried to make a new folder with the name bmz_cache for IH2 to use but I'm not allowed to do that either.
It all began to go wrong when I read that you should change the bmz_cache folder's properties. When I did that the whole bmz-cache folder disappeared.
Any idea how I can get my bmz_cache folder uploaded again ?
Cheers,
Kim
are you trying to change the properties to 755 or 777--depends on host provider which they use
and are you doing it thru c-panel/file manager or from an ftp client
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Hi, i have just upgraded my cart to v1.3.9h. Prior to this, my IH2 broke... it just does not work.
I have removed and reinstalled IH2 and yet it is not working. Can i get some help please....
I also recently switch from shared hostings to VPS.
Thanks... My site url is http:// q i s a h n . com
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
cybertai
Hi, i have just upgraded my cart to v1.3.9h. Prior to this, my IH2 broke... it just does not work.
I have removed and reinstalled IH2 and yet it is not working. Can i get some help please....
I also recently switch from shared hostings to VPS.
Thanks... My site url is http:// q i s a h n . com
[FONT=Tahoma]You need to post your question in the correct support thread.. You are running IH3, not IH2..
[/FONT]
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
Also ...
[FONT=Tahoma]
When posting bugs/issues[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma], it's a WHOLE LOT more helpful to resolve them if you post details. Just saying "it's broken" or "doesn't work" does not provide nearly enough information to help YOU resolve YOUR issue.
Please provide as MUCH information as possible including:
[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]The version of Zen Cart you are running[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]The version of Image Handler you are running (you can see this by going to “Admin > Tools > Image Handler” – the version is displayed in the upper left hand side)[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]Any other add-ons you may have also installed[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]Hosting/server information (PHP versions, mySQL versions, hosting provider etc)[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]The EXACT error/issue you are experiencing [/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]AND if you're REALLY detail oriented, tell us the install sequence/method you used to install Image Handler.[/FONT]
- [FONT=Tahoma]Post a link (not a screen print) to a specific product/product listing page where the issue you are experiencing can be seen (Please DO NOT make folks fish through your site looking for an example of your issue)
AND this last point is important.. The volunteers who help here need to SEE what you see LIVE. A screenprint really isn’t good enough.[/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma]One last thing all the spaces between your domain name is not necessary.. (kinda makes it a PITA to get to your URL) If you don't want search engines to pick up your URL, simply adding spaces as so http:// qisahn . com is sufficient to prevent your site from being indexed..
Provide the requested info to the correct support thread, and the community can help..
[/FONT]
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A "gentle" reminder for those who are using IH3 (THREE) vs IH2 (TWo)
Reminder: This is the Image Handler 2 (TWO) support thread.. This NOT the correct support thread for Image Handler 3 questions..
As folks don't seem keen to search the forum before posting questions, it seems like I need to re-post a "gentle" reminder regarding Image handler 3..
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
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Re: A "gentle" reminder for those who are using IH3 (THREE) vs IH2 (TWo)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
Reminder: This is the Image Handler 2 (TWO) support thread.. This NOT the correct support thread for Image Handler 3 questions..
As folks don't seem keen to search the forum before posting questions, it seems like I need to re-post a "gentle" reminder regarding Image handler 3..
Hi DivaVocals, i really do appreciate your reply and comments one this. To explain myself, i was running version 2 prior to asking the question.. then i read through the thread and found a version 3 so i upgraded and i posted on a v3 support thread.
Sorry for the confusion. :frusty:
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
PUREchocolatetruffle
I had to restore my site as it crashed after I tried to uninstall and reinstall IH2. Luckily I had a recent backup so my site is up and running again.
However, I'm unable to upload my bmz_cache folder. I've even tried to make a new folder with the name bmz_cache for IH2 to use but I'm not allowed to do that either.
It all began to go wrong when I read that you should change the bmz_cache folder's properties. When I did that the whole bmz-cache folder disappeared.
Any idea how I can get my bmz_cache folder uploaded again ?
Cheers,
Kim
Sorted. Somehow my Core FTP lite wasn't able to show my bmz_cache with it's new properties. However, in another file manager I could see the folder and correct it's properties. So now I have my bmz-cache back again :-)
Kim
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
I just installed Image Handler 2 on two different sites. The first one is working GREAT!
The second one uses additional images and, none of the additional images show up. I went to the admin and told it to uninstall IH and now my additional images are back.
Any idea why this would work so well on everything but additional images?
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Back yourself up, turn yourself around, remove IH2 and start with IH3:yes:
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
dbltoe
Back yourself up, turn yourself around, remove IH2 and start with
IH3:yes:
Would be nice if the IH2 documentation pages mentioned that there was an IH3. I had no clue IH2 had been replaced.
Secondly. There is nothing in the IH3 docs that I can find that talks about how to upgrade from IH2 to IH3, nor methods to uninstall IH2.
The only way I see to guarantee this will work is to start over with a virgin zencart install which is not an option.
Did I miss something in the docs somewhere?
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Old mods never list the existence of a newer version. It's always a good idea to look for a newer version when upgrading. I do an advanced search at the beginning of each month with the Date From set to the preceding month. For example, at the beginning of June, I set the Date From at 05/01/2011 and clicked search. That resulted in ten modules that were added or updated in the month of May.
On the IH2 front, go to Admin >> Tools >> Image Handler to remove it. This is also stated in the readme for IH3 under installation. Installation instructions often include upgrade instructions for those with previous versions.:yes:
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
dbltoe
Back yourself up, turn yourself around, remove IH2 and start with
IH3:yes:
Ok, pardon my last post. I was a blind idiot and didn't see it :)
IH3 is now installed, resizing is working, additional images is working but... The hover on zoom is NOT working.
Back when in installed IH2 on another site, i found the problem was the custom templates dir had not been updated. That is not the case here. And when doing a view source on the pages, there is no javascript there. Whatever is suppose to include it isn't.
The site is here http://www.thehookahstore.com
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In my last post I said the hover zoom wasn't working.. Well, in some places it is...
In side boxes it works, Also purchased works.. pretty much everything works except the product listing. No zoom on product listing nor new or featured products.
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
You may not be happy with the news, but you need to now post in the thread for IH3 if you have a problem with it.
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hookah
Would be nice if the IH2
documentation pages mentioned that there was an IH3. I had no clue IH2 had been replaced.
The site moderators will not let me update IH2 JUST to say there is an IH3.. (dbltoe is right it's not a standard practice to do this anyway)
In SEVERAL places in THIS support thread I personally have posted more than a few notices about the IH3 release and the fact that there is a new support thread for IH3.. (if you look at the posts on the previous page JUST above your original post you'll see posts where I do this again..) Not sure what more there is I could have done to get the word out..:lookaroun
Quote:
Originally Posted by
hookah
Secondly. There is nothing in the IH3 docs that I can find that talks about how to upgrade from IH2 to IH3, nor methods to uninstall IH2.
The only way I see to guarantee this will work is to start over with a virgin zencart install which is not an option.
Did I miss something in the docs somewhere?
I assume by your subsequent posts here and on the IH3 support thread that you re-read the readme which does have detailed upgrade instructions which do indeed include IH2 UNINSTALL instructions..
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Reminder: This is the Image Handler 2 (TWO) support thread.. This NOT the correct support thread for Image Handler 3 questions..
As folks don't seem keen to search the forum before posting questions, it seems like I need to re-post a "gentle" reminder regarding Image handler 3..
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Hi..I posted before but was told it was for IH3 which I'm not trying to use as I have 1.3.8a, so I'm trying to use IH2, so hopefully I'm supposed to repost here:huh:
I have installed 3 times, different ways, deleted "everything" to see if it was something I did...but I still can't see any choices under admin/images/ ..there are no IH choices at the bottom. I can't find an answer to that and I'm sure there is an easy answer.
I've renamed things as told to in the read me file...
what could be wrong?
someone suggested corrupted files, but it would be the first time and I did download from the zencart addons. It seems like something isn't working on the admin side...but what do I know??/
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fajmp
Hi..I posted before but was told it was for IH3 which I'm not trying to use as I have 1.3.8a, so I'm trying to use IH2, so hopefully I'm supposed to repost here:huh:
I have installed 3 times, different ways, deleted "everything" to see if it was something I did...but I still can't see any choices under admin/images/ ..there are no IH choices at the bottom. I can't find an answer to that and I'm sure there is an easy answer.
I've renamed things as told to in the read me file...
what could be wrong?
someone suggested corrupted files, but it would be the first time and I did download from the zencart addons. It seems like something isn't working on the admin side...but what do I know??/
OK, that make more sense (you did state in the other thread you were using 1.3.9a not 1.3.8a)
What options are appearing when you go to
admin --> tools --> Image Handler --> click on the admin link here
what options are showing?
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
Quote:
Originally Posted by
fajmp
Hi..I posted before but was told it was for IH3 which I'm not trying to use as I have 1.3.8a, so I'm trying to use IH2, so hopefully I'm supposed to repost here:huh:
I have installed 3 times, different ways, deleted "everything" to see if it was something I did...but I still can't see any choices under admin/images/ ..there are no IH choices at the bottom. I can't find an answer to that and I'm sure there is an easy answer.
I've renamed things as told to in the read me file...
what could be wrong?
someone suggested corrupted files, but it would be the first time and I did download from the zencart addons. It seems like something isn't working on the admin side...but what do I know??/
first you should think real hard about upgrading to 1.3.9h, it is far more secure and so far has not been hacked like many I have been fixing and upgrading due to hackers---some of the hosts even shut down the stores access to cpanel and server files because of it.
when you installed it did you go to admin/tools/IH2 and turn it on by clicking to install it there--first
then the images controls should show up in the images part of admin
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DarkAngel
first you should think real hard about upgrading to 1.3.9h, it is far more secure and so far has not been hacked like many I have been fixing and upgrading due to hackers---some of the hosts even shut down the stores access to cpanel and server files because of it.
when you installed it did you go to admin/tools/IH2 and turn it on by clicking to install it there--first
then the images controls should show up in the images part of admin
I'm a bit afraid to upgrade...some file will go missing and I'll search for months for it or something...I'll consider...
Yes I installed it through tools...it was there, but nothing shows up in the admin/configure/images....
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sorry for posting on Image handler 3 by mistake...
I've attached 2 screen shots to show what my admin looks like..
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I've looked at this with fresh eyes this morning and it still baffles me...can anyone attempt to help??
I've deleted everything and put it back in as well a couple of times...
??
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Whoopps - already covered
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fajmp
I've looked at this with fresh eyes this morning and it still baffles me...can anyone attempt to help??
I've deleted everything and put it back in as well a couple of times...
??
Frankly from this vantage point unless this is an issue that has been reported previously (and someone has experience with that issue), we can't help unless it's a problem that can be duplicated.. There could be issues on the back-end of your site which is unique to your site, and we can't see your site setup to know FOR SURE if there is an issue on the back-end which is the reason why the IH2 install isn't adding the proper entries to the DB (which in turn adds the IH settings to the configuration images).. A link to your store MIGHT help us see something obvious..
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Ryk
Whoopps - already covered
are you saying my problem is already covered? where (did I miss it)? point me to the answer if you could... see images of my admin above...I've deleted the whole thing again...so I guess I won't use it...since I can't figure out what's wrong :(
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are you saying my problem is already covered? where (did I miss it)? point me to the answer if you could...
If you read the reason Ryk's post was edited, you'd see he's not referring to your issue at all..
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fajmp
I've deleted the whole thing again...so I guess I won't use it...since I can't figure out what's wrong :(
You might want to consider having a professional help you with this install...
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Sorry DivaVocals...I guess I'm not very good at this...
here is my store http://talkingwalls.ca/aline/index.php?
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WELL...I got it to work...by uninstalling it from the data base through the Tool/ Image handler instead of manually doing it through ftp. I guess the important thing was to empty it from the data base...now all the options are showing up in my admin...:clap:
Now to try and get it to work...
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fajmp
I'm not seeing anything obvious, and honestly I can't see your store setup to see what's different.. You've already installed and uninstalled this with no different result. The issue is either in your store setup, or you install was done improperly (98% of the issues reported can be traced back to improper installs), and we can't see either of these things from this vantage point. Maybe someone else here has additional input...
Please don't take this wrong, but my strong suggestion is to consider paying a professional to assist you with this install and help you get the issues with this install resolved.. Whatever the issue is, I have a sneaking suspicion that once someone SEES your store setup, they'll KNOW how to get this install working correctly..
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fajmp
WELL...I got it to work...by uninstalling it from the data base through the Tool/ Image handler instead of manually doing it through ftp.
I'm not sure what you did, or how you think you fixed it, but it sounds as if you did not install IH2 following the install instructions in the readme file. IH2 is not installed by FTP alone. PER THE README if you FTP'd the files to correct locations, and ran the IH2 install IH2 would work, and IH image configuration settings would appear..
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fajmp
I guess the important thing was to empty it from the data base...now all the options are showing up in my admin...:clap:
Now to try and get it to work...
Like I said.. 98% of the install problems are due to improper installs.. Would have been easier for all here helping if you had provided DETAILS on how you did your install especially since it is starting to sound like you installed IH2 in a way that is not part of the install instructions..
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DivaVocals
I'm not sure what you did, or how you think you fixed it, but it sounds as if you did not install IH2 following the install instructions in the readme file. IH2 is not installed by FTP alone. PER THE README if you FTP'd the files to correct locations, and ran the IH2 install IH2 would work, and IH image configuration settings would appear..
Like I said.. 98% of the install problems are due to improper installs.. Would have been easier for all here helping if you had provided DETAILS on how you did your install especially since it is starting to sound like you installed IH2 in a way that is not part of the install instructions..
Well, if I didn't I thought I did and loaded it several times...I explained how I installed several times as well..
What I'm thinking is maybe the first time was wrong??? but I didn't know enough to empty the data base of whatever files it puts there.
So it wouldn't work every time I uninstalled and reinstalled because of that file. Anyway...not sure if anyone else has had this problem... I was quite sure it was an install problem too, but couldn't figure out what it was that I had misunderstood.
It works now and really needed for my website. Thanks for being patient (sort of) with me....:blush:
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I can only go by what you post.. In your previous posts you say you installed and uninstalled multiple times and it didn't work.. I think the issue is that we all thought that you had done a complete install.. It now sounds like you actually did not.
If in your initial post by INSTALL you meant that you
- FTP'd the files over
BUT
--
you DID NOT
(as the readme says to do)
-- - Go to Admin > Tools >Image Handler2, click on the "Admin" link and click on "Install Image Handler".
Then THIS is why your install was not working all along. Based on your subsequent posts on how you finally resolved your issue, it seems clear (based on your initial posts) that you DID NOT perform that second step.
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
Well, if I didn't I thought I did and loaded it several times...I explained how I installed several times as well..
What I'm thinking is maybe the first time was wrong??? but I didn't know enough to empty the data base of whatever files it puts there.
So it wouldn't work every time I uninstalled and reinstalled because of that file. Anyway...not sure if anyone else has had this problem... I was quite sure it was an install problem too, but couldn't figure out what it was that I had misunderstood.
Glad to hear that it's working now.. Not being impatient at all.. Simply trying to get clarification on this.. Want o make sure it's clear to those who read this thread to help with issue that the problem and solution are clear..
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fajmp
It works now and really needed for my website. Thanks for being patient (sort of) with me....:blush:
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fajmp
I'm a bit afraid to upgrade...some file will go missing and I'll search for months for it or something...I'll consider...
Yes I installed it through tools...it was there, but nothing shows up in the admin/configure/images....
if the site in question is the one in your signature I see that the images get the hover and appear to have IH working but that is as far as it goes cause the image is not being handled by IH at all. The link does not go to the bmz_cache folder but the actual images folder so something is not where it should be.
what template is that?
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DarkAngel
if the site in question is the one in your signature I see that the images get the hover and appear to have IH working but that is as far as it goes cause the image is not being handled by IH at all. The link does not go to the bmz_cache folder but the actual images folder so something is not where it should be.
what template is that?
It's the original default that I played around with...so it's still not working correctly??
Any ideas? What should I do now??? What do I check? I want it to work correctly.
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
It's the original default that I played around with...so it's still not working correctly??
Any ideas? What should I do now??? What do I check? I want it to work correctly.
The image hover feature is NOT an good indication that IH2 is installed or working correctly. The image hover is a nice feature of IH2, but it is not nor has it ever been the PRIMARY benefit/function of IH2.. The REAL indication that IH is not installed/configured correctly is the fact that the images are not being served from the bmz_cache folder. You need to double check your install/configuration.. Issue with IH2 can be traced back to install or configuration issues.. The IH3 readme is a better document than the IH2 readme (please note that there are a few minor configuration items that are different between the two versions) and it might be a better tool to help configure IH2 properly..
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There are also uninstall instructions in the readme. Not all mods uninstall the same way (simple file deletion via FTP). Any mod that has an install.sql file (or a install switch somewhere in the admin that will run the install.sql file for you automatically) will require removal of the mod from your database.
Most mods will have either an uninstall.sql script to run, or an uninstall switch to flip somewhere in the admin (as IH2 does). In your case, it wouldn't have made a whole lot of difference since you never flipped the install switch in the admin to begin with.
But, had you read the readme in it's entirety before installation, this whole process would have been much easier for you.
When you have an issue with installation and need to uninstall before re-installing, it is very important to follow the uninstall instructions.
The more complex the mod, the more instructions there are to follow, and the more crucial it is that you read and follow them.
Lesson learned for the future, I'm sure :smile:
When you're new to ZC, the learning curve can be steep - but well worth the effort. I for one, have learned most of what I know from the mistakes I have made :smile:
And Diva is right when she says she was seeking clarification. On any support thread (not just this one) the more detail you provide about the steps you took, the version of ZC you are running, your DB version, etc...the more you can be helped. Otherwise, we just have to guess.
Saying something like "I completed all the installation steps per the instructions and it doesn't work" is not providing detailed information. Had you listed step by step what you did, any person here would have been able to immediately point out the step that you missed and saved you a great deal of time and frustration.
I know it takes a lot of time to type all that out, but you must be willing to put in the time required to receive the level of support you need (remembering all the while that the free support you get here requires a great deal of time on the part of those providing it).
I hope the information provided here helps you in the future :smile:
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DivaVocals
I can only go by what you post.. In your previous posts you say you installed and uninstalled multiple times and it didn't work.. I think the issue is that we all thought that you had done a complete install.. It now sounds like you actually did not.
If in your initial post by INSTALL you meant that you
- FTP'd the files over
BUT
--
you DID NOT
(as the readme says to do)
-- - Go to Admin > Tools >Image Handler2, click on the "Admin" link and click on "Install Image Handler".
Then THIS is why your install was not working all along. Based on your subsequent posts on how you finally resolved your issue, it seems clear (based on your initial posts) that you DID NOT perform that second step.
Glad to hear that it's working now.. Not being impatient at all.. Simply trying to get clarification on this.. Want o make sure it's clear to those who read this thread to help with issue that the problem and solution are clear..
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Ok...it feels like I'm bothering everyone...as I feel like I'm bothering myself..:D
But as quoted:
if the site in question is the one in your signature I see that the images get the hover and appear to have IH working but that is as far as it goes cause the image is not being handled by IH at all. The link does not go to the bmz_cache folder but the actual images folder so something is not where it should be.
Is there a way for me to check (after I uninstall it again and hopefully the right way) to see if it functioning correctly after I install it again?
It's seems to be working to me, but apparently it isn't??? so how can "I" check without putting up another post? The hover looks good, but apparently from the wrong folder???
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You're not bothering anyone :smile:
Yes, there is a way you can check for yourself! :smile: I LOVE that question!
When you hover your mouse over an image, look at the info bar at the bottom of your browser to see what the file path is. If it does not say "bmz_cache" followed by a combo of a bunch of letters and/or numbers, then the image files are not being served from the bmz_cache folder.
Note: Your images must be stored either in your main images folder (inside your cart's main directory) - or in one of the sub-folders inside the main image folder.
For example - MyCart/images or MyCart/images/videos/ (for video products for example) or MyCart/images/software/ (for software products for example).
Check out this tutorial for the proper naming and filing of product images. Ignore the info about small, medium and large images and the suffixes for them - you're only interested in the info re: naming and filing images and additional images. IH2 will take care of/replace the need for image sizes and image size suffixes.
Simply upload the largest version of an image you want to show on hover, use the settings in IH2 to control what size you want them to appear for small, medium and large, and let IH2 do the rest!
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fajmp
Ok...it feels like I'm bothering everyone...as I feel like I'm bothering myself..:D
But as quoted:
if the site in question is the one in your signature I see that the images get the hover and appear to have IH working but that is as far as it goes cause the image is not being handled by IH at all. The link does not go to the bmz_cache folder but the actual images folder so something is not where it should be.
Is there a way for me to check (after I uninstall it again and hopefully the right way) to see if it functioning correctly after I install it again?
It's seems to be working to me, but apparently it isn't??? so how can "I" check without putting up another post? The hover looks good, but apparently from the wrong folder???
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You're not bothering us, but (and I might be wrong) it feels like you are looking for a QUICK answer..
It's not JUST a matter of installing IH2 correctly, it is also a matter of CONFIGURING the app to work.. Once you've gotten the install right, then you need to make sure it's configured correctly.. You MUST have your image settings correct to get IH2 to work the way it should..
So here's what I suggest..
READ the IH3 readme.. I suggest it because it's better written and organized than the IH2 readme. Except for a FEW configuration items which are different in IH3 than they are in IH2 (and they are VERY OBVIOUS) it's a good guide to help you install and configure IH2.
and if you still can't get this all worked out, I'm gonna suggest (again..) that you consider paying a professional to help you with this install.. Would probably take someone who knows Zen Cart 30 minutes (or less) to get you all up and working..
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
Ok...it feels like I'm bothering everyone...as I feel like I'm bothering myself..:D
But as quoted:
if the site in question is the one in your signature I see that the images get the hover and appear to have IH working but that is as far as it goes cause the image is not being handled by IH at all. The link does not go to the bmz_cache folder but the actual images folder so something is not where it should be.
Is there a way for me to check (after I uninstall it again and hopefully the right way) to see if it functioning correctly after I install it again?
It's seems to be working to me, but apparently it isn't??? so how can "I" check without putting up another post? The hover looks good, but apparently from the wrong folder???
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Thank you to "all" of you:smile:
I will try to follow to the letter...ha ha ha!
Believe it or not I'm not a quick fix kind of person...
Just to let you know I see nothing on the bottom when I hover over an image..
Also I checked my bmz_cache file and it's full of images.
My images are in my website name/images then images/large and images/medium.
Thank you...:thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
Thank you to "all" of you:smile:
I will try to follow to the letter...ha ha ha!
Believe it or not I'm not a quick fix kind of person...
Just to let you know I see nothing on the bottom when I hover over an image..
Also I checked my bmz_cache file and it's full of images.
My images are in my website name/images then images/large and images/medium.
Thank you...:thumbsup:
Read the IH3 readme.. in particular pay attention to the section which reviews how to install Image Handler and Zen Lightbox.. (These instructions are NOT in the IH2 readme) I am not entirely certain you have installed ZLB to correctly to work with IH2.
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The advice I gave in the post right above Diva's post was based on the assumption that you would have already followed the advice she gave you in the quote below....so before you follow my advice, you will want to follow Diva's first. :smile:
Appending to the advice I gave you - when you're ready to make the check/test I suggested, be sure to do so from your product information/product description pages rather than from your main page or any category/sub category pages.
This is so that you're checking your actual product images rather than your category images because...while IH2 will provide the hover function for category images...it will not "handle" them (i.e. resize them, change their file format, or otherwise serve them from the bmz_cache folder)....so the best way to test is to test product images directly from the product information/product description pages.
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Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
You're not bothering us, but (and I might be wrong) it feels like you are looking for a QUICK answer..
It's not JUST a matter of installing IH2 correctly, it is also a matter of CONFIGURING the app to work.. Once you've gotten the install right, then you need to make sure it's configured correctly.. You MUST have your image settings correct to get IH2 to work the way it should..
So here's what I suggest..
READ the IH3 readme.. I suggest it because it's better written and organized than the IH2 readme. Except for a FEW configuration items which are different in IH3 than they are in IH2 (and they are VERY OBVIOUS) it's a good guide to help you install and configure IH2.
and if you still can't get this all worked out, I'm gonna suggest (again..) that you consider paying a professional to help you with this install.. Would probably take someone who knows Zen Cart 30 minutes (or less) to get you all up and working..
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Originally Posted by
ScriptJunkie
This is so that you're checking your actual product images rather than your category images because...while IH2 will provide the hover function for category images...it will not "handle" them (i.e. resize them, change their file format, or otherwise serve them from the bmz_cache folder)....so the best way to test is to test product images directly from the product information/product description pages.
This is partially true.. IH2 once installed and configured correctly will manage all product and category images. Even the ones shown on the category and product listings on the main page.
If you right click the images shown on main page listings, you will see this.. If you just HOVER over the images on the main page you will either see the URL for the category or the product (depending on which listing you are hovering over)
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I right click the image and choose view image to have it actually open the image in the window showing the path it is getting it from
I think you can safely remove the images you have in the large and medium folders since ih does not use them, it only uses the ones in the images and images/subfolders
I know it is frustrating when trying to find out why the items do not work like we think they should -- when we install them. been there and done that and still do that at times.
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Originally Posted by
DarkAngel
if the site in question is the one in your signature I see that the images get the hover and appear to have IH working but that is as far as it goes cause the image is not being handled by IH at all. The link does not go to the bmz_cache folder but the actual images folder so something is not where it should be.
OK...after reading everything included a big chuck of this forum over the last couple of day, I still fail to see the files coming from my bmz cache EXCEPT for the last product which I input trying to use IH. check it out on my website Is this correct?
Will I not have to just leave the old files as they were? jpg _MED.jpg and _LRG.jpg? If it would help to make my website faster I would consider changing them. How would I do this?
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
OK...after reading everything included a big chuck of this forum over the last couple of day, I still fail to see the files coming from my bmz cache EXCEPT for the last product which I input trying to use IH. check it out on my
website Is this correct?
Will I not have to just leave the old files as they were? jpg _MED.jpg and _LRG.jpg? If it would help to make my website faster I would consider changing them. How would I do this?
with image handler there is no need for the MED or LRG images anymore cause IH will take care of the naming when resizing.
Did you look inside the bmz_cache folder to see if there are ANY other folders living in there...if so then delete them, maybe that will make IH take over.
In the main cache folder are there any files in there? Maybe the store sent you an error message in there.
your images that you have in the store...are they are small ones, when I clicked on the stick horse the lightbox showed a tiny image. IH2 you upload the largest size you want and it takes care of the rest. It also does not seem to show the popup on all your images like on the products page where your category images are...some have the hover and others do not so maybe the settings area is off too.
you may have to have someone come in to your server files and store backend to see what's up
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Originally Posted by
DarkAngel
with image handler there is no need for the MED or LRG images anymore cause IH will take care of the naming when resizing.
1.Did you look inside the bmz_cache folder to see if there are ANY other folders living in there...if so then delete them, maybe that will make IH take over.
In the main cache folder are there any files in there? Maybe the store sent you an error message in there.
3. your images that you have in the store...are they are small ones, when I clicked on the stick horse the lightbox showed a tiny image. IH2 you upload the largest size you want and it takes care of the rest. It also does not seem to show the popup on all your images like on the products page where your category images are...some have the hover and others do not so maybe the settings area is off too.
you may have to have someone come in to your server files and store backend to see what's up
1. No more than an hour i uninstalled (the correct way through admin etc) and deleted the bmz file (and others), so whatever is in there right now which are directories from 1-9 and a to f, with a big bunch of files in them has come since I did a new install.
2. I checked my cache as well and the latest log was 2 weeks ago, before I even downloaded IH
3. Yes it's going to be wonderful to be able to use IH and not do the 3 versions. Yes I noticed in my category list images they were acting kind of weird, but I've been concentrating so much on the product list page and they seem to be working fine.
So as to my lquestions unanswered from my last post...
1. IH is supposed to "find" my large images that I have stored and use them automatically? Right...
2) since I can't seem to IH to accept my files, can I just leave them alone and continue on with IH from this day forth? Will that do something to my website as far as time outs etc.
3. Should I physically do something (like move a bunch of larger images to somewhere to kick start this?
4. The part I don't understand is how I'm going to figure out what all these pictures are if something goes wrong...they are just a bunch of letters instead of a name I can understand.
So the one image I did ...was it correct?
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This has been posted in different forms on this support thread.. So let me post it again..
If you have an existing store and install Image Handler on top of an existing store with existing images, 98% of the time the most common reason for issues with IH2 has EVERYTHING to do with 1 of 3 issues:
- Image Handler is not installed/configured correctly
- Your existing images are not in the right places for Image Handler to properly create your medium and small images
- Images are named improperly
As it is stated in the README file, Image Handler takes your LARGEST image and creates all 3 image sizes used by Zen Cart (based on your image configuration settings)
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[FONT=Tahoma]Image Handler 3 generates product images (based on your image settings) in the Image Handler 3 bmz_cache folder. It DOES NOT replace or modify the original images. So it's PERFECTLY safe to use on an existing store.
[/FONT][FONT=Tahoma]Image Handler 3 enables you to use GD libraries or ImageMagick (if installed on your server) to generate and resize small, medium and large images on the fly on page request. You can simply upload just one image[/FONT]
Because Image Handler generates the large, medium and small images (in the bmz_cache folder) your original image is left intact.
Therefore you need to upload your LARGEST image to the store's "image" folder. You DO NOT NEED the jpg _MED.jpg and _LRG.jpg files after that.
and again this is why I suggested using the IH3 README since it is better written than the IH2 readme file.. READ IT IN FULL.. If you follow the configuration instructions, it WILL help you configure IH2 correctly..
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
So as to my lquestions unanswered from my last post...
1. IH is supposed to "find" my large images that I have stored and use them automatically? Right...
Yes..
It will "find" your images when you actually have your images in the right locations..
Upload the LARGEST PRODUCT or CATEGORY IMAGE to the "images" folder and GET RID OF THE "images/medium" & the "images/large" files.. (this is covered in the IH3 readme -- which I have suggested you review -- The IH3 readme is a LOT clearer than the IH2 readme -- use it so that configuration of IH2 will be easier for you..)
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
Thank you to "all" of you:smile:
I will try to follow to the letter...ha ha ha!
Believe it or not I'm not a quick fix kind of person...
Just to let you know I see nothing on the bottom when I hover over an image..
Also I checked my bmz_cache file and it's full of images.
My images are in my website name/images then images/large and images/medium.
Thank you...:thumbsup:
Get rid of these folders.. they are not needed.. Put the LARGEST image in the /images folder and that's IT...
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yes delete the images from the LRG and MED folder they are not needed
as for finding out what the image is...that is what the control center (admin?tools?IH2) is for, go there, find the product in the listing then it will tell you the name of the image.
the one you see when you hover is the generic name in the bmz_cache fodler only...this is so it loads quicker and not the original image.
when uploading your images try naming them like the product without spaces in the name or special characters....like serenity.jpg or serenityprayer.jpg
that way you will be able to find it in the images folder should you need to as well as keep a copy of them on your computer for if it should get corrupted you can then reupload it.
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
4. The part I don't understand is how I'm going to figure out what all these pictures are if something goes wrong...they are just a bunch of letters instead of a name I can understand.
You don't need to understand the names of the files created by IH2.. In fact knowing the names IH2 assigns to images is not needed at all for troubleshooting purposes.. You only need to pay attention to the names you assign to the original image files you upload and where you upload them.
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Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
This has been posted in different forms on this support thread.. So let me post it again..
If you have an existing store and install Image Handler on top of an existing store with existing images, 98% of the time the most common reason for issues with IH2 has EVERYTHING to do with 1 of 3 issues:
- Image Handler is not installed/configured correctly
- Your existing images are not in the right places for Image Handler to properly create your medium and small images
- Images are named improperly
As it is stated in the README file, Image Handler takes your LARGEST image and creates all 3 image sizes used by Zen Cart (based on your image configuration settings)
Because Image Handler generates the large, medium and small images (in the bmz_cache folder) your original image is left intact.
Therefore you need to upload your LARGEST image to the store's "image" folder. You DO NOT NEED the jpg _MED.jpg and _LRG.jpg files after that.
and again this is why I suggested using the IH3 README since it is better written than the IH2 readme file.. READ IT IN FULL.. If you follow the configuration instructions, it WILL help you configure IH2 correctly..
Thank you.
Perhaps there is a language barrier of something, but I've read and re-read those pages you claim that I never have read yet:smile:
To me when you say "
Therefore you need to upload your LARGEST image to the store's "image" folder. " It is not explained very well at all. Yes I have an image folder (which holds the small med and large...which apparently wont' be needed any more and of which I'm glad), but it does not say what to do with them...I've put a new directory under my images directory called imagesihnew...which is where I see my newest and only product image) since trying to use IH2, but it isn't explained (in my opinion) well enough to make me feel comfortable about moving things around in my store (with over 900 products) without "really" knowing what I'm supposed to do.
So let me see if I understand (and thanks for your patience again)
I just need to take all my "large images" from my images/large folder and put them all in my new imagesihnew directory and they will pop up in the right places? ...which will make the mbz get to work and store my others sizes (as specified in the admin/images?
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Re: Image Handler 2 Support
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Originally Posted by
DarkAngel
when uploading your images try naming them like the product without spaces in the name or special characters....like serenity.jpg or serenityprayer.jpg
that way you will be able to find it in the images folder should you need to as well as keep a copy of them on your computer for if it should get corrupted you can then reupload it.
Great advice!!!:thumbsup:
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Let me state this very simply then..
You do not need to use the "imagesihnew" folder you plan to make.. Take all your "large images" from my images/large folder and put them all in "images" folder. Delete EVERYTHING ELSE.
Now if you are not comfortable doing that, then make a backup on your local computer of these files/folders.. But DO DELETE THESE files/folders from your store..
IH2 will then read the files in the images folder and create small, medium and large images optimized and sized based on your image settings in the bmz_cache folder. Because it creates these images from the large image you place in the "images" folder, your original images remain in place untouched.
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
Thank you.
Perhaps there is a language barrier of something, but I've read and re-read those pages you claim that I never have read yet:smile:
To me when you say "
Therefore you need to upload your LARGEST image to the store's "image" folder. " It is not explained very well at all. Yes I have an image folder (which holds the small med and large...which apparently wont' be needed any more and of which I'm glad), but it does not say what to do with them...I've put a new directory under my images directory called imagesihnew...which is where I see my newest and only product image) since trying to use IH2, but it isn't explained (in my opinion) well enough to make me feel comfortable about moving things around in my store (with over 900 products) without "really" knowing what I'm supposed to do.
So let me see if I understand (and thanks for your patience again)
I just need to take all my "large images" from my images/large folder and put them all in my new imagesihnew directory and they will pop up in the right places? ...which will make the mbz get to work and store my others sizes (as specified in the admin/images?
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Originally Posted by
DarkAngel
yes delete the images from the LRG and MED folder they are not needed
as for finding out what the image is...that is what the control center (admin?tools?IH2) is for, go there, find the product in the listing then it will tell you the name of the image.
the one you see when you hover is the generic name in the bmz_cache fodler only...this is so it loads quicker and not the original image.
when uploading your images try naming them like the product without spaces in the name or special characters....like serenity.jpg or serenityprayer.jpg
that way you will be able to find it in the images folder should you need to as well as keep a copy of them on your computer for if it should get corrupted you can then reupload it.
Thank you again for your quickness...I feel something good comin' on..:laugh:
As asked above and not answered:
I no longer have "larger" images wider that 480 (which are in my /images/large folder. So can i take these and place them in my new folder imagesihnew folder and have everything work or do I have to go to each product and upload the image for that particular product....or should I delete my small images and put the larger _LRG ones there?
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Let me put it this way and you can decide how this applies to your current products.
You add images to products via the IH2 interface or upload images via the product's info pages.
Either method you chose to add images to products, you must select the largest sized image. IH2 looks for the image you have associated with the product to generate the 3 image sizes in the bmz_cache folder.. IH2 assumes that this is the LARGEST image. So if the file you associated with the product is in fact the SMALLEST image, your small and medium images will in fact be smaller than they should be..
So if the image you have associated with your products is NOT the largest product image, then IH2 will not work correctly..
Does this make sense now??:smile:
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
Thank you again for your quickness...I feel something good comin' on..:laugh:
As asked above and not answered:
I no longer have "larger" images wider that 480 (which are in my /images/large folder. So can i take these and place them in my new folder imagesihnew folder and have everything work or do I have to go to each product and upload the image for that particular product....or should I delete my small images and put the larger _LRG ones there?
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Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
Let me state this very simply then..
You do not need to use the "imagesihnew" folder you plan to make.. Take all your "large images" from my images/large folder and put them all in "images" folder. Delete EVERYTHING ELSE.
Now if you are not comfortable doing that, then make a backup on your local computer of these files/folders.. But DO DELETE THESE files/folders from your store..
IH2 will then read the files in the images folder and create small, medium and large images optimized and sized based on your image settings in the bmz_cache folder. Because it creates these images from the large image you place in the "images" folder, your original images remain in place untouched.
Well I did as said...I made copies of my small medium & large images, Then I deleted all of them from my side and re-downloaded my largest images (which are actually from my large folder) and placed them in my images folder which used to hold my small ones....
there must be something else I need to do because look at my site.. Yikes...this is not good...
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
Well I did as said...I made copies of my small medium & large images, Then I deleted all of them from my side and re-downloaded my largest images (which are actually from my large folder) and placed them in my images folder which used to hold my small ones....
there must be something else I need to do because look at my
site.. Yikes...this is not good...
Yes there is.. You missed something in my last post (and this IS in the IH3 read me too..:smile:) Please see the things I highlighted..
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Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
You add images to products via the IH2 interface or upload images via the product's info pages.
Either method you chose to add images to products, you must select the largest sized image. IH2 looks for the image you have associated with the product to generate the 3 image sizes in the bmz_cache folder.. IH2 assumes that this is the LARGEST image. So if the file you associated with the product is in fact the SMALLEST image, your small and medium images will in fact be smaller than they should be..
So if the image you have associated with your products is NOT the largest product image, then IH2 will not work correctly..
Does this make sense now??:smile:
You need to make sure that the image associated with the product corresponds with an image in your image folder. This must be the largest image so that IH2 can correctly generate the 3 images sizes needed in the bmz_cache folder.. Because you started out your store using default Zen Cart image management it means you probably have your products associated with the wrong images (which is why IH2 was only HALF working).. AND BTW, the large images do NOT need _LRG in the names at all when using IH2..
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More information.. This is straight from the IH3 readme Troubleshooting tab (which as I have indicated in previous posts can be used by IH2 users too as it contains much more/better information than the IH2 readme..)
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Prepare Your Site for Growth
Not many users are aware that Image Handler3 can manage the needs of a very large site as easily as it does a small one. When first building a site, the owner of a small site needs only to load images to the images folder. But when the site gets bigger and images multiply like rabbits, this can cause file naming confusions for Zen Cart and slow down the site. Preparing for your business to grow from the beginning will save you hours of work later on!
Without Image Handler3 installed, Zen Cart requires you to create, optimize, and upload three different size images for each image you want to use. You must name these images using naming suffixes, and place them in corresponding folders inside your main image folder. For example: A product called "Widget" requires images/widget.jpg (small image) images/medium/widget_MED.jpg (medium image) and images/large/widget_LRG.jpg. This is such a hassle, especially if many of your products have multiple images. And as your site grows, it becomes an impossible task!
With Image Handler3, you no longer have to make three sizes of the same images and place them in different folders (unless you want to)! Instead, you need upload only one image in one folder and Image Handler3 will do the rest! Simply upload your largest highest quality image and Image Handler3 will resize and optimize your image as needed, and serve up small, medium, or large image sizes appropriate to the page loaded - all automatically and all without actually modifying your original image file in any way! Check out the Configuration Tab of this ReadMe for more info about this awesome functionality!
Prepare your site for growth by simply creating sub-folders in your main images folder. For example, you may want to put all your "widget" images in a folder called "widgets" and all your doodad images in a folder called "doodads" , like this:
Product: Blue Widget with 3 images
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/images/widgets/blue_widget1.jpg (main product image for a blue widget, i.e. front view)
/images/widgets/blue_widget2.jpg (additional product image for a blue widget, i.e. side view)
/images/widgets/blue_widget3.jpg (additional product image for a blue widdget, i.e. rear view)
Product: Red Widget with 1 image
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/images/widgets/red_widget.jpg (main product image for a red widget)
Product: Gold Doodad with 2 images
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/images/doodads/gold_doodad1.jpg (main product image for a gold doodad, i.e. view from above)
/images/doodads/gold_doodad2.jpg (additional product image for a gold doodad, i.e. view from side)
Product: Silver Doodad with 3 images
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/images/doodads/silver_doodad1.jpg (main product image for a silver doodad, i.e. product)
/images/doodads/silver_doodad2.jpg (additional product image for a silver doodad, i.e. product detail)
/images/doodads/silver_doodad3.jpg (additional product image for a silver doodad, i.e. product's silver stamp)
Using Image Handler3, you can easily sort and manage thousands of images without confusion or hassle! When selecting the main image for a product in the Image Handler3 interface, Image Handler3 lets you pick the location for this image. This prompt disappears afterwards because Image Handler3 knows that additional images need to be in the same folder as their main product image and handles that automatically!
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Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
Yes there is.. You missed something in my last post (and this IS in the IH3 read me too..:smile:) Please see the things I highlighted..
You need to make sure that the image associated with the product corresponds with an image in your image folder. This must be the largest image so that IH2 can correctly generate the 3 images sizes needed in the bmz_cache folder.. Because you started out your store using default Zen Cart image management it means you probably have your products associated with the wrong images (which is why IH2 was only HALF working).. AND BTW, the large images do NOT need _LRG in the names at all when using IH2..
Well, I feel like some dunce or something:bangin:...did I not just put the largest files associated with my products when I used my _LRG files? Would they not be associated? If not then what the heck does that mean to be associated? Do I have to change the file name and eliminate the _LRG? Or do I have to go and input the file for each and every product??? Or should I unintall the IH again? I obviously really need to fix this...
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
Well, I feel like some dunce or something:bangin:...did I not just put the largest files associated with my products when I used my _LRG files? Would they not be associated? If not then what the heck does that mean to be associated? Do I have to change the file name and eliminate the _LRG? Or do I have to go and input the file for each and every product??? Or should I unintall the IH again? I obviously really need to fix this...
You need to look at your products and in particular the section which is where you will see the image that is associated with that product..
From the IH3 readme:
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You can use Image Handler3 in two ways.
- Admin > Catalog > Categories/Products
- Admin > Tools > Image Handler3
There are screenshots of these sections in the readme..
From either of these places you will be able to see what image is associated with your products. This location needs to be the same as where the large image file is located.. So looking at this product:
http://talkingwalls.ca/aline/index.p...roducts_id=847
It's looking for the product image to be located here:
http://talkingwalls.ca/aline/images/everyone%20welcome.jpg
It's not showing any image at all and that's because this image no longer exists. So to fix this product and get IH2 to correctly generate the 3 image sizes needed, you need to edit this product and correct the image to the location of the largest image for this product. Once you do this, the product image will be displayed again, and then IH2 will then generate the 3 images needed for this product and place them in the bmz_cache folder.
BTW, DarkAngel is correct when she suggests that you not use spaces in image file names.. The %20 in the above image link represents a space in the file name.
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One last thing.. There is an EASY way you can cheat without having to update all your products.. This ASSUMES that the small images you had in your "images" folder have names similar to the large images..
Using the product example I previously cited the large image is found here:
http://talkingwalls.ca/aline/images/...elcome_LRG.jpg
The product though is associated (and looking for) this image:
http://talkingwalls.ca/aline/images/...%20welcome.jpg
If you renamed everyone welcome_LRG.jpg to everyone welcome.jpg, then you will "trick" Zen Cart into displaying the image without having to update the product.
Now if all your other images follow a similar pattern then you can batch update the file names.. You can do this by downloading one of the many free file re-naming tools (http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/Main_Intro.php) and rename all your images and re-upload them.. This should solve all your issues without having to manually update your products..
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Nevermind...Diva beat me to it <grin>
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Originally Posted by
DivaVocals
One last thing.. There is an EASY way you can cheat without having to update all your products.. This ASSUMES that the small images you had in your "images" folder have names similar to the large images..
Using the product example I previously cited the large image is found here:
http://talkingwalls.ca/aline/images/...elcome_LRG.jpg
The product though is associated (and looking for) this image:
http://talkingwalls.ca/aline/images/...%20welcome.jpg
If you renamed
everyone welcome_LRG.jpg to
everyone welcome.jpg, then you will "trick" Zen Cart into displaying the image without having to update the product.
Now if all your other images follow a similar pattern then you can batch update the file names.. You can do this by downloading one of the many free file re-naming tools (
http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/Main_Intro.php) and rename all your images and re-upload them.. This should solve all your issues without having to manually update your products..
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I'm sorry but I'm just not getting this...you keep sending me to the readme page and I don't understand it I guess...I don't know why.:cry:
Just please just tell me what to do with the files I already have in my image folder, which are the biggest I have. How do I associate them is my question...do I have to do it one by one through the admin?? Again...step by step...how do I associate these files?
Do I have to go to each product and associate a particular file with it? If I do that will take forever...
I feel like a broken record... if I don't get this I will have to revert everything back.
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I'm so stuck here...I cleared the bmz cache file, I've deleted all my image files, so the image folder has nothing and I went to the IH and added the new image to associate through IH and it uploads the new image to the image folder..and I see the image in the product list page.but when I look at the bottom it doesn't come from the bmz cache.:censored:
Before that I deleted all my _LRG files and bulked renamed them without the ending and uploaded them to the image folder. They showed up in the right place and it seemed like IH was working but again when I looked at the bottom, they were still not from the bmz cache folder, or so the status at the bottom said.
Any more ideas...
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
I'm so stuck here...I cleared the bmz cache file, I've deleted all my image files, so the image folder has nothing and I went to the IH and added the new image to associate through IH and it uploads the new image to the image folder..and I see the image in the product list page.but when I look at the bottom it doesn't come from the bmz cache.:censored:
Before that I deleted all my _LRG files and bulked renamed them without the ending and uploaded them to the image folder. They showed up in the right place and it seemed like IH was working but again when I looked at the bottom, they were still not from the bmz cache folder, or so the status at the bottom said.
Any more ideas...
Either method I suggested in my previous posts for re-associating your products with the correct images would have worked.. Looking at this product I referenced in my previous posts I can see IH2 is generating the correct image files.. So whatever method you used for updating the product image has worked for this product..
http://talkingwalls.ca/aline/index.p...roducts_id=847
So whatever steps you took for updating this particular product should be applied to all of your other products..
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Hopefully this is my last post:yes:
When I looked at the status on the bottom it shows no sign of bmz cache, but when I looked at the "file info" it shows that it's working.
It's probably been working for a while...that's probably good for people to know.
Thanks to everyone.:hug:
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Originally Posted by
fajmp
Hopefully this is my last post:yes:
When I looked at the status on the bottom it shows no sign of bmz cache, but when I looked at the "file info" it shows that it's working.
It's probably been working for a while...that's probably good for people to know.
Thanks to everyone.:hug:
Well the example I used in previous posts shows the correct file location in the status bar when you hover your mouse over the image.. and BTW, the on hover won't show ANYTHING in the status bar when you use Internet Explorer.. The on hover shows the image URL ONLY when you use Firefox..
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I just checked your site ( talkingwalls.ca/aline/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=13 )
All the images on that page are being handled by the bmz cache.
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Help Please guys!
I am trying to install IH2 but it does not seem to be working. I am not sure what I am missing. I have been reading FAQ about zen cart for 2 weeks now but no help.
Here is what I did:
I install Zen cart 1.3.9h with Hostgator using there QuickInstall. During installation, i am ask to provide directory where installation will be done. So I name it: mysubfolder. Then zen cart is up working.
Now download and unzip IH2. I name the admin folder: mysubfolder (I am guessing this is my admin folder name).
Then I rename my template to Classic Contemporary Green in both module and template folder.
I upload all files to the root directory of my zen cart installation with FTP.
Problem: When I log in my zen cart admin and click on tools, I see no menu from IH as supposed to.
Thanks so much for your help!
:frusty:
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Now download and unzip IH2. I name the admin folder: mysubfolder (I am guessing this is my admin folder name).
Nope:no:
If you named the folder that Zen Cart is in mysubfolder and have not renamed the admin folder inside the mysubfolder, you would change the IH2 admin files to nothing.
PLEASE NOTE: You should change the name of the admin folder as soon as possible to avoid someone gaining access to your site.
The cart should already be telling you this if you try to access the admin.
I'm not a fan of loading Zen Cart through ANY method other than that found in the Tutorials/FAQ.:no:
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Originally Posted by
remebero
Help Please guys!
I am trying to install IH2 but it does not seem to be working. I am not sure what I am missing. I have been reading FAQ about zen cart for 2 weeks now but no help.
Here is what I did:
I install Zen cart 1.3.9h with Hostgator using there QuickInstall.
I have them as host too but even the stores that I install and manage as well as my own ...I have never used any method other than unzip/manually upload files to install store. Many problems were had by a couple that I had to fix their store because they used an installer that messed up the files somehow.
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During installation, i am ask to provide directory where installation will be done. So I name it: mysubfolder. Then zen cart is up working.
Now download and unzip IH2. I name the admin folder: mysubfolder (I am guessing this is my admin folder name).
when you are asked to name the directory...it means what you want to call the folder you have the store in...for instance: store or catalogue, like mine is fantasiesrealm.com/market --- market is the folder that got called in installation
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Then I rename my template to Classic Contemporary Green in both module and template folder.
why?
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I upload all files to the root directory of my zen cart installation with FTP.
Problem: When I log in my zen cart admin and click on tools, I see no menu from IH as supposed to.
Thanks so much for your help!
:frusty:
what files did you ftp to your store? and are you sure you put them into the folders that match the ones in the zip? not just upload the folders to the server as is...I have seen many do that.
Link to store is always helpful to get useful advice since quessing will only make things stay wrong longer. Since you can see your admin and go into it then *mysubfolder* must not be the real name so this does not help us help you either.
