TNX Anne,

Public display of definepages is fine. Admin display in editor is blank for all define pages except main_page with AbbingtonMega and AberdeenNeutral templates. Other templates (classic green, A modern zen, abbiani supremo) show the default text in the DefinePages editor. If an entry is made into the blank definepages editor, all of the default install text is replaced.

Don't know how seeing the public site will help since it is fine but the site is srevaewniahc*.*info with the stars removed

meanwhile, I'll read through the links you mentioned