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    Default Re: rsponsive vs mobile template

    Quote Originally Posted by swguy View Post
    Jose wrote an interesting article for my newsletter that you might enjoy reading. It's here:

    http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=...&id=3a08aa5785
    Hi Scott...

    Much of the inspiration I have gained over the years has been from your newsletters (which I get via email), and I read Jose's article.

    Anyone else reading this post should be subscribing to Scott's newsletter...
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    Default Re: rsponsive vs mobile template

    Yes, great article but IMO most statements are statistically incorrect and a matter of opinion.

    On April 21st Google changed their algorithm to benefit mobile friendly websites. That is, if your website meets Google’s specific requirements to be considered mobile friendly, your website was to benefit from better rankings on searches and a small notice stating Mobile Friendly next to your site would be displayed. Google’s only concern is to enhance their users' mobile surfing experience.
    Meeting Google's specific requirements will only benefit you for device specific searches "Mobile Searches" and has nothing to do with search results from other devices. They are serving up "Mobile Friendly" results first on mobile devices but continue to serve up their normal results when searching via any other device.

    You have to consider the fact that not everyone has a high speed connection, and users do not like waiting for pages to load. With a responsive website that is difficult to do, because the CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) is designed to just hide the portions of the site that are too big for mobile devices.
    Statistically speaking "Yes" this is how RWD works!

    But the responsive templates offered here (not sure about the numinix template) include mobiledetect which allows you to load "device specific" modules, templates, define pages, banners, images, ect. so hiding elements when a user of a desktop shrinks it's browser, yes but if visited by a mobile device can prevent the loading on together.

    In addition, by adding a responsive web design template to your site you are actually rebuilding your entire site. Your customers are already accustomed to your website look and your branding when they visit on their desktop systems, and you're changing it for no reason.
    Totally not true, a RWD is just the opposite.

    Mobile websites work differently in the sense that they first detect whether the user is viewing the site from a mobile device, then load the required content.
    So does the responsive templates offered here in the forum (not sure about the numinix template).

    Again, great article but IMO it was wrote specifically to promote/sell MobiZenCart!

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    Default Re: rsponsive vs mobile template

    I agree with rbarbour, good article but Jose has a product too sell...
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    Default Re: rsponsive vs mobile template

    Schoolboy,
    Your Sheffield Blue variation at ngraving co uk is exactly what I have been looking for.
    I have been fiddling with that Sheffield Blue template for a couple days and have dug through the support thread but can not figure out how to ditch the slideshow. Where did you go to take that out entirely?
    Im also wanting to take out the social media buttons all together. The documentation gives directions that seem to relate to an earlier version.

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    Default Re: rsponsive vs mobile template

    Quote Originally Posted by angst View Post
    Schoolboy,
    Your Sheffield Blue variation at ngraving co uk is exactly what I have been looking for.
    I have been fiddling with that Sheffield Blue template for a couple days and have dug through the support thread but can not figure out how to ditch the slideshow. Where did you go to take that out entirely?
    Im also wanting to take out the social media buttons all together. The documentation gives directions that seem to relate to an earlier version.
    That site is using the new version 2.0 of the template package. You can turn off the slide show in the admin. See the template readme.html file for instructions.

    Thanks,

    Anne

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    Default Re: rsponsive vs mobile template

    And.... I use www.quirktools.com/screenfly to test site for responsiveness. When done in Firefox, firebug will help you find the correct css to adjust the settings.
    A little help with colors.
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    Default Re: rsponsive vs mobile template

    Quote Originally Posted by dbltoe View Post
    And.... I use www.quirktools.com/screenfly to test site for responsiveness. When done in Firefox, firebug will help you find the correct css to adjust the settings.
    If you are using screenfly or any other emulator with a DESKTOP, and want to test my templates that use php mobile detect you need to use these urls:

    https://www.yourdomain.com/index.php..._mode=isTablet

    https://www.yourdomain.com/index.php..._mode=isMoible

    https://www.yourdomain.com/index.php...mode=isDesktop


    Thanks,

    Anne

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    Default Re: rsponsive vs mobile template

    Quote Originally Posted by picaflor-azul View Post
    That site is using the new version 2.0 of the template package. You can turn off the slide show in the admin. See the template readme.html file for instructions.

    Thanks,

    Anne
    Dooh. I had somehow managed to download the old version of that template and commenced with spending a whole day and a half learning it.
    Messing with the 2.0 version today there is indeed a toggle in the admin area and the readme makes more sense and I feel pretty stupid. Things seem easier in the 2.0 version and the starting point is much closer to what I am after.

    I know I should be asking this in the support thread, but...
    The biggest thing I am trying to figure out is why my center boxes are wonky. I cant find the place in the admin or css to handle that.
    In the attachment the browser on the left is my old legacy template that is currently live which has a nice 3 across category regardless of the zoom level on the browser, in the right hand browser is my S.Blue experimental build it alternates between rows of three and rows of one.
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    Default Re: rsponsive vs mobile template

    Can't seem to edit my post.
    I have posted my question above to the appropriate place (in the support thread for the template).
    link there

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    Default Re: rsponsive vs mobile template

    There is a timeout of 5 minutes or so on post editing.

    I added a warning on the old Download with a pointer to the new location. One additional clue you can look for is the parent category; the older on is in the "Legacy" template section, which lets you know that it's not mobile friendly.
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