A client is having some problems with Google indexing their site. We're using Sitemap XML covered previously in this thread those url's are Zen Cart default. My question is the canonical url is the Zen Cart default, shouldn't it be the re-written url?
Plugin: 2.215
Zen Cart: 1.5.5f
Hi, I'm using a 1.3.9h zen shop with this mod for a small business. I've just moved it to a different host and after getting it up and running I've noticed that when doing a web search I come up with this URL http://gatorz.com.au/aluminium-styles-octane-c-1_9.html in google but when the link is clicked the forward slash is missed and the address with an error page is https://gatorz.qnetau.comaluminium-s...ne-c-1_9.html/
I'm unsure whether this is related to the host change or not but I'm wondering if there might be a simple solution?
GitHub issue opened: https://github.com/lat9/usu/issues/7
That sounds like it "could be" an issue with your configure.php file's format. When you view the supplied page with USU disabled, what link comes back?
Jim - just some comment / opinion for what it is worth- as you know lat9 is working on this issue among many other projects on her books - once I pinpointed my problem and whilst waiting for this to be done I installed CEON URI Mapping on 4 sites (as an interim mind you - I intend to return to this plugin when sorted) and after a couple of weeks I have seen some improvement in ranking of the 4 sites - not to the levels prior to upgrading to 1.5.5f which frustrates me no end, but an improvement at least. I appreciate ranking is different to indexing - my sites were indexing OK without the canonical re-write however ranking dropped significantly - where I noticed the difference is in looking at GWMT in the Coverage and the 'indexed but not found in sitemap' vs 'indexed and found in sitemap' - without the canonical rewrite Google obviously isn't (wasn't) seeing the rewritten urls in the sitemap so it could not make the correlation between what it finds and what it sees in the sitemap which is as good as not having a sitemap at all, which whilst some will say is not critically essential to be found it is an accepted known 'recommendation' from Google. As we all realize the sitemap is an instruction to the bots to look for these pages. Hence it does affect ranking if the bot is looking in the wrong place (daily or more frequently via a CRON job).
CEON has its frustrations in that it doesn't automatically take care of re-writing canonically the previous existing urls such that the old urls redirect correctly, so each needs to be done manually via 'updating' - even a simple thing like the trailing / at the end of a url does not redirect automatically - time consuming and a lot of broken links to repair but at the end of the day Google is reading the urls submitted in the sitemap. (CEON has certain benefits over USU but lacks in automation per se) So just saying it may be a short term fix for your client. Then once this plugin is sorted it will automatically rewrite the existing (CEON urls) as need be.
cheers, Mike
p.s. Just my opinion, or ramblings more accurately - having suffered a drop in rankings for over 5 months after upgrading to 155f (and I am no doubt not the only one) I am wondering why it hasn't been considered that, as user friendly rewritten url's are no longer the subject of debate between traditionalists and modernists, and Google pretty much expects them, why then isn't a user friendly rewrite included as standard in the Zen Cart base? (toggle on/off if need be for those who do not want to use it with still the option to install 'the other one' not chosen as standard) - this would ensure that as upgrades are released site owners will be able to have their sitemaps submitted correctly. Anyone upgrading currently to 1.5.6 and using this plug in will be having the same issue as all of those who upgraded to 155f - and I might add that a site's ranking could be performing less than optimally and it may take a long time for the site owner to figure out why - it certainly took a while for the penny to drop with me after a lot of head scratching, site speed optimization and questions in various forums etc etc. .... and yes others may say well what about this plugin or that plugin being incorporated in the base, so where does it stop? - in my humble opinion url rewrite is as critical to the 'performance' of an eCommerce website as speed and other backend performance requirements - one without the other is less than optimal, like wearing one shoe and not a pair - doesn't count for much if the site is fast and technically up to date if Google doesn't (can't) rank it optimally. (everything said here about 'ranking' and url rewrite is based on all other factors associated with ranking being optimal as best as can be - not as the saviour to a poorly optimized site).
I will get off the pulpit now![]()
Mike - thanks for your rambling thoughts. ;-) I do like CEON better, but this client has hundreds or products so creating the url one by one was going to be quite a task and while we settled on this one. We're now discussing dropping it and going back to the default url's. The sitemap/indexing disconnect has created a mess.
I would also like to see this (url re-writes, not any one plugin specifically) rolled into the core of Zen Cart. I get that rewritten url's are not needed, but they are a standard on most platforms and are more user friendly. I appreciate there are lots of features to consider adding so how do you choice which ones to add and how would it technically work are not quick answers.
Nothing is simple and straightforward and often has unintended consequences. If/when my client and I make any progress, I'll post back.
There was a discussion on integrating about 3 years ago. See "Considering: integrating Ultimate URL into core" on Github
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