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    Default Checkout without login - possible?

    I have had a couple of customers contact me to say that they would like to be able to checkout without creating an account. I am fine with this, but could not find the option in admin, and could not find an answer in the wiki, tutorials, or forums. Is this possible? I have SSL, Paypal Express, Google Checkout, and credit card processing, if that extra info helps. Site is goinggear.com.

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    Default Re: Checkout without login - possible?

    That is not currently an option in standard Zen Cart. There are a couple of different "checkout without account" mods available in Free Addons and by searching the forum.

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    Default Re: Checkout without login - possible?

    Actually, I've had that working on my site for months. Here are the instructions from my main page:

    If you do not want to create an account, you don't have to! Browse to your heart's content and put desired items in your shopping cart. When you are ready to check out, click on "shopping cart" NOT "checkout" to enter your zip code and select your delivery method. Then click on the "checkout with PayPal" button. If you have a PayPal account, you can login there; if not, click on the "Don't Have a Paypal Account?" continue checkout link. I hope you will create an account here so I can let you know about sales, but I made sure you can purchase without one.

    It might need regular Paypal vs. Paypal Express, but I have both enabled anyway.
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    Default Re: Checkout without login - possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by gjh42 View Post
    That is not currently an option in standard Zen Cart. There are a couple of different "checkout without account" mods available in Free Addons and by searching the forum.
    Glen is right.. There are add-ons which serve this purpose.. The OP might wanna do a search for their support threads, and read through before jumping in and installing on of these add-ons.

    I wanted to add this.. If the OP has PayPal Express installed correctly, then one of the options during the checkout process should offer your customers the option to checkout without creating an account if they have a PayPal account (hence the name of the payment module being PayPal Express)

    The OP should also be aware that the current underworkings of ZenCart do not allow order records to be created without linking it to a valid customer record. So ALL of these available add-ons and options which allow your customers to shop without creating an account actually creates a customer account behind the scenes anyway..

    Now while you may be saying "big deal", the issue I see is that if the customer shops with you again, there will likely be a conflict when they checkout if they use the same e-mail address they used the first time they shopped at your store. Dunno if any of the "checkout without account" add-ons address this.. Seems like these add-ons could be messy and high maintenance since they work contrary to the way ZenCart is designed.

    One of my clients raised the same concern with regards to her customers. Her customers had been used to using her PayPal store. I convinced her that the "switch" would not be as big a deal as she thought (especially if she carried a product they REALLY wanted) What we discovered was that most of her customers were savvy internet shoppers, and found the account creation function was not much different than the process for shopping at much larger online stores (Amazon is the first that comes to mind). They did it without any issues whatsoever. Some signed up MONTHS before they even made their first purchase so that they could be put on the mailing list.. I think the OP may be surprised what their customers will be okay with..

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    Default Re: Checkout without login - possible?

    The "COWOA" mod (which makes accounts optional) addresses the repeat customer issue. As long as a customer has not created an account, they can purchase as many times as they want with the same e-mail address. Once they create an account, they cannot purchase with that e-mail without logging in.

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    Default Re: Checkout without login - possible?

    I understand the concerns about messing with the code, which is why I have not implemented anything yet. Many of my customers are NOT technology savvy and have expressed interest in being able to place a credit card order without creating an account, so the interest is coming from them, not me. Many of them also dislike Paypal because of some of Paypal's policies, so Paypal Express is not a viable alternative for them.

    I will have to mull it over and figure out a way that accommodates as many people as possible. Thanks for the feedback.

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    Default Re: Checkout without login - possible?

    One of the things you may want to consider is:
    Your customers will have to enter their billing (and possible shipping) address anyway, the ONLY difference between a checkout with account and without account is the password step.

    So ultimately you go all the way just to remove a single field: the password field. What we did for many clients: we re-word many fields in the registration phase, make it sound like they are actually just entering their info for checking out.
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    Default Re: Checkout without login - possible?

    Which is truly what they are doing. You need to keep their info at least long enough to complete the order and deal with any possible complications of delivery; you could theoretically delete it after that, though destroying records of transactions is not such a good idea.

    You could possibly hide the password input, too, though this would make it impossible for the customer to get back to see any info about their order.

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    Default Re: Checkout without login - possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by gjh42 View Post
    Which is truly what they are doing. You need to keep their info at least long enough to complete the order and deal with any possible complications of delivery; you could theoretically delete it after that, though destroying records of transactions is not such a good idea.
    That's not a bad idea, thanks for that. I'll mess with the wording and maybe install one of the single checkout page mods.

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    Default Re: Checkout without login - possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by yellow1912 View Post
    One of the things you may want to consider is:
    Your customers will have to enter their billing (and possible shipping) address anyway, the ONLY difference between a checkout with account and without account is the password step.

    So ultimately you go all the way just to remove a single field: the password field. What we did for many clients: we re-word many fields in the registration phase, make it sound like they are actually just entering their info for checking out.
    Exactly! Especially if one is using PayPal to collect payments, you have to enter the SAME information into PayPal so except for the password, there really is nothing different the customer is having to enter to create an account..

    As for customers not being technically savvy; how much savvy does one require to enter information into clearly labeled data fields? If customers are not having issues entering in data into PayPal forms, then ZenCart account forms is a cinch IMO..

    In the case of my one client, she discovered her clients weren't as technically challenged as she thought they might be.. There will always be a few special folks, but in my experience, these special folks would have issues regardless as to HOW easy you made it for them..

 

 
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