Canada Post Letter Rates

Royal

A little more info.

After 1/2 hour on the phone with CP, I have been able to determine (you probably already know this, but it may be of value to other newbies like myself) that the shipping module should not be used for "Xpresspost Prepaid Bubble Envelopes" - the key issue here being "prepaid".

Since the module communicates with sellonline it evaluates an item based on dimensions and weight.

I will therefore have to setup non-prepaid bubble envelopes and enter them into our Retailer Profile at CP like they were boxes. For example, a standard bubble envelope is 24.5 cm long x 21.3cm wide x 2cm deep/high and its maximum weight for envelope and items being mailed is 500g.

Canada Post tells me that the shipping cost will be evaluated as "parcel post" and therefore will be cheaper than the prepaid bubble envelopes!

However, I'm still stuck then as to what to enter into the rate table. If I'm not using lettermail, should the rates I enter be the parcel rates?

Or, is this latest module (http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=product_contrib_info&cPath=40_51&products_id=78) simply providing us with the ability to use lettermail if we wish by editing the options as per post 4, but it will regardless interact with sellonline to return shipping costs?

Again, thanks.

A little more info.

After 1/2 hour on the phone with CP, I have been able to determine (you probably already know this, but it may be of value to other newbies like myself) that the shipping module should not be used for "Xpresspost Prepaid Bubble Envelopes" - the key issue here being "prepaid".

Since the module communicates with sellonline it evaluates an item based on dimensions and weight.

I will therefore have to setup non-prepaid bubble envelopes and enter them into our Retailer Profile at CP like they were boxes. For example, a standard bubble envelope is 24.5 cm long x 21.3cm wide x 2cm deep/high and its maximum weight for envelope and items being mailed is 500g.

Canada Post tells me that the shipping cost will be evaluated as "parcel post" and therefore will be cheaper than the prepaid bubble envelopes!

You are correct. Well done on your information.

However, I'm still stuck then as to what to enter into the rate table. If I'm not using lettermail, should the rates I enter be the parcel rates?

The rate is for Lettermail only. If you are not using Lettermail: Change"Enable Lettermail Rate: False"

Enable CanadaPost Shipping
True

Enable Lettermail Rates
False

Max weight for Lettermail
0.500

Table rates for Canada
0.300:2.75,0.500:3.25

Table rates for USA
0.200:3.50,0.500:7.00

Table rates for International
0.200:7.00,0.500:14.00

If that does not work. Leave Canada, USA, and International Blank.

Or, is this latest module (http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?ma...products_id=78) simply providing us with the ability to use lettermail if we wish by editing the options as per post 4

Correct!

but it will regardless interact with sellonline to return shipping costs?

It will interact with sellonline Parcel Rate when Lettermail is disable.

Hi Royal

Thanks for confirming the correct guesses and advising module updates. I have made the changes you suggested and then tried out the shopping cart!

Wow! So much fun. The module returned 3 shipping options (see attached image) - one for store pick-up, which I thought I'd leave just in case a customer decided they wanted this. Another option was the Canada Post box - which looks correct (I think), but there's a third option that says "Per Item (Best way)". Don't know what this is, however I do note under Modules>Shipping there is a "Per Item" line that right now I have not touched (see attached screen print) since I don't know what this option means.

Am I correct in assuming I should turn this Per Item option off and stick to just using the Canada Post module?

Please advise. Your help has been tremendous.

I find Zen Cart is a great product, but not having enought detailed documentation relative to all of these details does mean I find I'm guessing a lot of the time as to what I should be selecting.

Your time and effort has truly helped me work through this process.

Hello Sjmills93,

Wow! So much fun. The module returned 3 shipping options (see attached image) - one for store pick-up, which I thought I'd leave just in case a customer decided they wanted this. Another option was the Canada Post box - which looks correct (I think), but there's a third option that says "Per Item (Best way)". Don't know what this is, however I do note under Modules>Shipping there is a "Per Item" line that right now I have not touched (see attached screen print) since I don't know what this option means.

Yes! It is so much fun.

I notice that you only have Regular Parcel show up only. Where are Xpresspost and Priority Courier.

If you click on my signature below and add a item to the cart. You will see Regular Parcel, Xpresspost and Piority Courier. For lighter item you will see the Lettermail.

Am I correct in assuming I should turn this Per Item option off and stick to just using the Canada Post module?

You are correct remove "Per Item". I do not use "Per Item" option. I use "Table Rate". Try that. It's very handy. Your client might need it if Canada Post is down. More shipping options the better.

I find Zen Cart is a great product, but not having enought detailed documentation relative to all of these details does mean I find I'm guessing a lot of the time as to what I should be selecting.

Get the Zen Cart Book. That's what I use. It help alot.

Royal:

You are correct. Well done on your information.

The rate is for Lettermail only. If you are not using Lettermail: Change"Enable Lettermail Rate: False"

Enable CanadaPost Shipping
True

Enable Lettermail Rates
False

Max weight for Lettermail
0.500

Table rates for Canada
0.300:2.75,0.500:3.25

Table rates for USA
0.200:3.50,0.500:7.00

Table rates for International
0.200:7.00,0.500:14.00

If that does not work. Leave Canada, USA, and International Blank.

Correct!

It will interact with sellonline Parcel Rate when Lettermail is disable.

The full table rates should be as of Jan 2010:

Table rates for Canada
0.030:0.57, 0.050:1.00, .1:1.22,.2:2.00,.3:2.75,.4:3.00,0.500:3.25

Table rates for USA
.03:1.00,.05:1.22,0.100:2.00, 0.200:3.50, 0.500:7.00

Table rates for International
.03:1.70,.05:2.44,0.100:4.00, 0.200:7.00, 0.500:14.00

Thank you Royal. Post #29 helped me as well.

digulu:

Thank you Royal. Post #29 helped me as well.

You are very welcome! :smile:

Am I ever having problems, my small parcel rate to Australia was around $7, (by air), the cost went up to around $14, then I set up the letter_mail_#0 etc in cp, made the envelope sizes within the required (my large was to big, deleted it), set these settings )below) to zero, got rid of pop up shipping, did everything in these posts, and made it worse.

Guy

Royal:

Hello Shanon,

I'm sorry that you are still having problems. Please check post 24 and check to see if everything setup correctly.

Login into your Zen Cart admin. Go to Configuration and click on Shipping/Packaging. Set these two lines to zero "0" if you didn't do so already. Like I have it in the attachment below.

3. The next step is to setup your packaging on the Canada Post server. Login to the sellonline server and click on Add/Modify/Delete Boxes.
   You should setup whatever envelope/packaging you are using to send via lettermail.
   You can have as many as you want, but the box names MUST begin with "Lettermail".

For example, to setup number-0 bubble mailers as a packaging type, you could specify:

Description: Lettermail_0
Weight Limit: 30
Box Weight: 0.010 kg
Length: 25.4 cm
Width: 16.2 cm
Height: 2 cm

The height cannot exceed 2 cm for Lettermail rates.

How did you setup your lettermail in CP?

Hello Australian Caching,

Please check the attachment. Will any of these will fit your item?

To receive $7.00 for shipping to Australia. Your item should be under 200 g or 0.200 kg.

1. If your item is 170 g and your envelope weigh is 40 g. It will not work.

2. If your item weight is 180 g, your envelope is 10 g and your Weight Limit of Box is 600 g. It will not work.

CP: Make sure that all Lettermail Weight Limit is 500 g and under.

Canada Letter Rate, USA and INTL Letter Rate.

I just wanted to say THANK YOU for your patience and pursue to help fellow zenners understand and solve the situation.

I made the following changes and it worked!

Royal:

Hello Shanon,

I'm sorry that you are still having problems. Please check post 24 and check to see if everything setup correctly.

Login into your Zen Cart admin. Go to Configuration and click on Shipping/Packaging. Set these two lines to zero "0" if you didn't do so already. Like I have it in the attachment below.

dal2009:

IT WORKS!!!! :clap::clap::clap::clap: Here was the problem after countless hours of checking everything, hopefully this post saves a lot of people time. Letter Mail for what ever reason will not work if your shipping estimator is in "Popup" mode. Once I switched it to "2= Display as Listing on Shopping Cart Page" inside of Config/shipping/packaging/Shipping Estimator Display Settings for Shopping Cart Everything works! Thank You Royal for your help and time, it was reviewing your website that made me change my display settings. :cheers:

dimsumgurl:

I just wanted to say THANK YOU for your patience and pursue to help fellow zenners understand and solve the situation.

I made the following changes and it worked!

You are very welcome! :smile:

I have set up the CPC module and rates at CPC like the examples in this topic and still can't get this to work, one thing i was wondering though is wether the letter rate works with version 1.5? I do get the proper Expedited parcel rates although it seems to take a little long to get the rate from CPC but can't seem to get the letter mail.
Kudos to all the wonderful replies in this forum.
Thanks in advance

Never mind, got it LOL I did find that with the Shipping Estimator Display Settings for Shopping Cart set to "2" when ever a product was added it took a while to add it and also for the view shopping cart to show because it would get the shipping rate everytime from CPC i changed it to "1" for the pop up function and the lettermail still shows ...... Pfffffff thanks to all the good tips :)

Your length, width and height also must be given in the correct sequence.

My client only wants to offer a Canada Post option if the delivery address is a PO Box. Is there any way to restrict this module as such?

Many thanks!

I am installing the CPC in V1.5 and have a small issue
In the collect_info.php there is a line " <td class="main"><?php echo zen_image(DIR_WS_CATALOG_LANGUAGES . $languages[$i]['directory'] . '/images/' . $languages[$i]['image'], $languages[$i]['name']) . ' ' . zen_draw_input_field('products_name[' . $languages[$i]['id'] . ']', (isset($products_name[$languages[$i]['id']]) ? htmlspecialchars(stripslashes($products_name[$languages[$i]['id']]), ENT_COMPAT, CHARSET, TRUE) : htmlspecialchars(zen_get_products_name($pInfo->products_id, $languages[$i]['id']), ENT_COMPAT, CHARSET, TRUE)), zen_set_field_length(TABLE_PRODUCTS_DESCRIPTION, 'products_name')); ?></td> "

I am also installing the CEON URI rewrite and they have this line in the collect_info.php
" <td class="main"><?php echo zen_image(DIR_WS_CATALOG_LANGUAGES . $languages[$i]['directory'] . '/images/' . $languages[$i]['image'], $languages[$i]['name']) . ' ' . zen_draw_input_field('products_name[' . $languages[$i]['id'] . ']', htmlspecialchars(isset($products_name[$languages[$i]['id']]) ? stripslashes($products_name[$languages[$i]['id']]) : zen_get_products_name($pInfo->products_id, $languages[$i]['id']), ENT_COMPAT, CHARSET, TRUE), zen_set_field_length(TABLE_PRODUCTS_DESCRIPTION, 'products_name')); ?></td> "

I am just wondering which way i should go with this. I have contacted the maker of Ceon URI Mapping (SEO) and his reply was
" The Ceon files change ONLY the three wee blocks in a standard Zen Cart file, so they are the closest to the originals. I don't know what the Canada post ones are based on.
You can copy the differences from the Canada post one to the Ceon modified one or the Ceon blocks to the Canada post file. "

There are 4 collect_info.php files in the CPC add on where this occurs. Since CPC does calculations i am just wondering if i should change the lines to this since i have already installed the CEON add on.
Does anybody know how to handle that ?
Thank you