DivaVocals:

Sounds like your .htaccess file is not configured correctly.. I suspect you would have the SAME issue if you used the auto-generate feature for your URIs..

nope.. the auto generated ones work fine.. here is my htaccess contents:

BEGIN CEON URI MAPPING REWRITE RULE

RewriteEngine On

Don't rewrite any URIs ending with a file extension (ending with .[xxxxx])

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !.[a-z]{2,5}$ [NC]

Don't rewrite any URIs for some, popular specific file format extensions,

which are not covered by main file extension condition above

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !.(mp3|mp4|h264)$ [NC]

Don't rewrite any URIs for some specific file format extensions,

which are not covered by main file extension condition above

Uncomment the following line to apply this condition! (Remove the # at the start of the next line)

#RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !.(3gp|3g2|h261|h263|mj2|mjp2|mp4v|mpg4|m1v|m2v|m4u|f4v|m4v|3dml)$ [NC]

Don't rewrite admin directory

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/medieval [NC]

Don't rewrite editors directory

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/editors/ [NC]

Don't rewrite logs directory

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/logs/ [NC]

Don't rewrite catalog directory

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/catalog/ [NC]

Don't rewrite tempEP directory

RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/tempEP/ [NC]

Handle all other URIs using Zen Cart (its index.php)

RewriteRule .* index.php [QSA,L]

END CEON URI MAPPING REWRITE RULE

DivaVocals:

Sounds like your .htaccess file is not configured correctly.. I suspect you would have the SAME issue if you used the auto-generate feature for your URIs..

here's the actual URL with autogenerated URL's - http://medievalclothing.co/hobby-stone/merlins-magic
but when i put gc1041017.html in the URL mapping field, the site tries to bring up http://medievalclothing.co/gc1041017.html and it says it does not exist.

tyankee:

here's the actual URL with autogenerated URL's - http://medievalclothing.co/hobby-stone/merlins-magic
but when i put gc1041017.html in the URL mapping field, the site tries to bring up http://medievalclothing.co/gc1041017.html and it says it does not exist.Suggest reading through the readme for how to configure the URIs the way you are attempting to do.. If it's not an .htaccess issue, then it's probably a matter of you configuring the app to accommodate your specific URIs.. Wish I could be more help, but I've never used this mod to attempt to do what you are trying to do. That said, I believe it can be configured to do what you want..

DivaVocals:

Suggest reading through the readme for how to configure the URIs the way you are attempting to do.. If it's not an .htaccess issue, then it's probably a matter of you configuring the app to accommodate your specific URIs.. Wish I could be more help, but I've never used this mod to attempt to do what you are trying to do. That said, I believe it can be configured to do what you want..

LOL... read through the all i could find but couldn't figure it out- that's why i'm here..

tyankee:

LOL... read through the all i could find but couldn't figure it out- that's why i'm here..Well I'm not sure anyone is gonna be able to help you any better than Conor's docs will..:smile: Hope you get it all figured out.. Suggest to re-examine the configuration options.. I believe that IF this module can do what you want that that's the key..

tyankee:

who is this 'Conor' that you speak of and where can i find his software??Ummmm.. well he's the AUTHOR of this add-on.. (read through this support thread to get the 411..)

DivaVocals:

Sounds like your .htaccess file is not configured correctly.. I suspect you would have the SAME issue if you used the auto-generate feature for your URIs..

tyankee:

here's the actual URL with autogenerated URL's - http://medievalclothing.co/hobby-stone/merlins-magic
but when i put gc1041017.html in the URL mapping field, the site tries to bring up http://medievalclothing.co/gc1041017.html and it says it does not exist.

DivaVocals:

Suggest reading through the readme for how to configure the URIs the way you are attempting to do.. If it's not an .htaccess issue, then it's probably a matter of you configuring the app to accommodate your specific URIs.. Wish I could be more help, but I've never used this mod to attempt to do what you are trying to do. That said, I believe it can be configured to do what you want..

tyankee:

LOL... read through the all i could find but couldn't figure it out- that's why i'm here..So I am going to go back to a few things I've already suggested and add one more suggestion to that..

1. Your .htaccess file is part of the answer..
2. Re-Read through the readme.. One thing Conor was REALLY good at (besides writing GREAT modules) is writing thorough documentation for his modules. I found the following in a QUICK glance through the readme that comes with this module> Modifying the rule to allow URI mappings to be used which end with a particular file extension
3. Search/read/browse this support thread. It's likely you will stumble across your answer in this support thread. (Personally I make it a point to read through at LEAST 80% of a mods support thread when it's new or I am attempting to do something that I might need a little extra hand holding through)

Unfortunately Conor is no longer here to help support this module as he always had. However, his modules are some of the best written and documented available for Zen Cart. If you are willing to roll up your sleeves, I think you might surprise yourself and figure this out.. Conor left enough breadcrumbs to make it possible..

Hope this helps..

Will this handle redirecting old URL's to the new ones created by your module?? for example:

i am going to be migrating my site from a Sunshop script to Zen cart and would like to keep the names of the product, category, and general pages the same URL - for search engine purposes.. Or at the very least redirect the pages to the new URL's.. Is there an easy way to do this - or even a hard way - so that i don't lose all the search engine indexed pages we have built up over the years.

Will the EXACT url 's be used?
If not the 301 redirects are your answer?

tyankee:

Will this handle redirecting old URL's to the new ones created by your module?? for example:

i am going to be migrating my site from a Sunshop script to Zen cart and would like to keep the names of the product, category, and general pages the same URL - for search engine purposes.. Or at the very least redirect the pages to the new URL's.. Is there an easy way to do this - or even a hard way - so that i don't lose all the search engine indexed pages we have built up over the years.

tyankee:

Will this handle redirecting old URL's to the new ones created by your module?? for example:

i am going to be migrating my site from a Sunshop script to Zen cart and would like to keep the names of the product, category, and general pages the same URL - for search engine purposes.. Or at the very least redirect the pages to the new URL's.. Is there an easy way to do this - or even a hard way - so that i don't lose all the search engine indexed pages we have built up over the years.

One of the potential benefits of rewriting is the theoretical benefit of "taking your url with you" when one moves across platforms. It should work if everything is named the same. But you might also look at your current url to see how it handles the categories in the url along with the product, and how CEON might handle it. Otherwise, you might be custom-naming alot.

You might pop-up a test zencart with CEON somewhere and take a hands-on look.

Good luck!

picandnix:

Will the EXACT url 's be used?
If not the 301 redirects are your answer?
and piggybacking on this response..

1. The .htaccess file is the KEY to the solution..
2. Re-Read through the readme.. One thing Conor was REALLY good at (besides writing GREAT modules) is writing thorough documentation for his modules. I found the following in a QUICK glance through the readme that comes with this module

Modifying the rule to allow URI mappings to be used which end with a particular file extension

tyankee:

Will this handle redirecting old URL's to the new ones created by your module?? for example:

i am going to be migrating my site from a Sunshop script to Zen cart and would like to keep the names of the product, category, and general pages the same URL - for search engine purposes.. Or at the very least redirect the pages to the new URL's.. Is there an easy way to do this - or even a hard way - so that i don't lose all the search engine indexed pages we have built up over the years.

Please don't take this the wrong way.. But if it is over your head, you may have to consider hiring someone to help you set this up..

picandnix:

Will the EXACT url 's be used?
If not the 301 redirects are your answer?

not sure what you are asking here??? will the exact url's be used where??? on the new system?? is so, that would be ideal but a 301 redirect from the old ones to the new URL's would also accomplish the same thing i think.

DivaVocals:

and piggybacking on this response..

1. The .htaccess file is the KEY to the solution..
2. Re-Read through the readme.. One thing Conor was REALLY good at (besides writing GREAT modules) is writing thorough documentation for his modules. I found the following in a QUICK glance through the readme that comes with this module

Please don't take this the wrong way.. But if it is over your head, you may have to consider hiring someone to help you set this up..

i would definately hire someone if this is over my head and i think it might be.. i DID read through all the documentation and my conclusions right now are that this module will NOT accomplish what i need. But it looks like he has a paid module on his website that may accomplish it. although i've tried for 3 days straight to contact him through his website with no responses yet.

DivaVocals:

Ummmm.. well he's the AUTHOR of this add-on.. (read through this support thread to get the 411..)

So I am going to go back to a few things I've already suggested and add one more suggestion to that..

1. Your .htaccess file is part of the answer..
2. Re-Read through the readme.. One thing Conor was REALLY good at (besides writing GREAT modules) is writing thorough documentation for his modules. I found the following in a QUICK glance through the readme that comes with this module
3. Search/read/browse this support thread. It's likely you will stumble across your answer in this support thread. (Personally I make it a point to read through at LEAST 80% of a mods support thread when it's new or I am attempting to do something that I might need a little extra hand holding through)

Unfortunately Conor is no longer here to help support this module as he always had. However, his modules are some of the best written and documented available for Zen Cart. If you are willing to roll up your sleeves, I think you might surprise yourself and figure this out.. Conor left enough breadcrumbs to make it possible..

Hope this helps..

not really sure htaccess IS the answer unless i was to have to put over 5000 new statements into it?? to redirect over 5000 product pages to the new URL's since the old URL's are nothing like the new ones generated by this module.

seems to me that there should be a simple solution to this since many? others would, in theory, be moving their sites from other software into Zen Cart. Or is it just newbies that use Zen Cart??

my solution would be:

1. add a field to the products table for 'legacy URL' from your old site.
2. here's where my programming gets a bit fuzzy but there should be a process to take all of the pages/products and look at this 'legacy URL' field and if it's populated create a pointer/redirection to the new URL. maybe this could be done through a CRON job once a day and the results put into the htaccess file?? or some other process??

seems that would solve the redirection problem..

tyankee:

i would definately hire someone if this is over my head and i think it might be.. i DID read through all the documentation and my conclusions right now are that this module will NOT accomplish what i need. But it looks like he has a paid module on his website that may accomplish it. although i've tried for 3 days straight to contact him through his website with no responses yet.

tyankee:

not really sure htaccess IS the answer unless i was to have to put over 5000 new statements into it?? to redirect over 5000 product pages to the new URL's since the old URL's are nothing like the new ones generated by this module.

seems to me that there should be a simple solution to this since many? others would, in theory, be moving their sites from other software into Zen Cart. Or is it just newbies that use Zen Cart??

my solution would be:

1. add a field to the products table for 'legacy URL' from your old site.
2. here's where my programming gets a bit fuzzy but there should be a process to take all of the pages/products and look at this 'legacy URL' field and if it's populated create a pointer/redirection to the new URL. maybe this could be done through a CRON job once a day and the results put into the htaccess file?? or some other process??

seems that would solve the redirection problem..
I think you ARE over your head and should give serious thought to hiring someone to help you get this setup the way you want..

Finally you've not followed my other suggestion that you read through this WHOLE support thread to see if your answer is here.. (otherwise you'd know WHY no one from Ceon has responded) If you had read through the support thread you'd know that Conor Kerr (AKA Ceon), the developer of this mod is deceased and NO ONE will be answering your e-mails anytime soon..

DivaVocals:

I think you ARE over your head and should give serious thought to hiring someone to help you get this setup the way you want..

Finally you've not followed my other suggestion that you read through this WHOLE support thread to see if your answer is here.. (otherwise you'd know WHY no one from Ceon has responded) If you had read through the support thread you'd know that Conor Kerr (AKA Ceon), the developer of this mod is deceased and NO ONE will be answering your e-mails anytime soon..

sounds like you've got an attitude problem to me.. lol.. i dont' have to the time to read through entire threads as i'm busy running businesses.. that's what i use the search feature for and posting - so that helpful people point me in the right direction.. would love to be living in my mom's basement sitting on this forum all day, but i have to support a family and the economy.. so please don't respond back with your negativity.. thanks..

tyankee:

sounds like you've got an attitude problem to me.. lol.. i dont' have to the time to read through entire threads as i'm busy running businesses.. that's what i use the search feature for and posting - so that helpful people point me in the right direction.. would love to be living in my mom's basement sitting on this forum all day, but i have to support a family and the economy.. so please don't respond back with your negativity.. thanks..
An attitude eh?? Oh.. okay.. :laugh:

No attitude.. trying to point you in the right direction.. but clearly you are free to interpret my responses as such..

You don't want to read through the thread??? that's fine.. So here's the long and short..

If Conor was alive he would have probably jumped in and helped you out for no charge as he did for everyone else here.. He's no longer with us, and what you want is very specific. I'm sure this module can do it based on my own usage of it.. So I gave you the hints and suggestion I do have to help you.. There's no QUICK answer to this, and I am not sure that you are going to get much more in depth assistance here beyond that now that Conor is gone.. So I still suggest that you give some thought to hiring someone who has a good understanding of the right Ceon setup and .httaccess you will need to support what you are trying to do..

Happy Zenning..

tyankee:

Will this handle redirecting old URL's to the new ones created by your module??
Not auto-magically by itself. You will need to do some work.

You have a few options... As other people have mentioned... you can

1. Add your products and when adding them assign a unique URI via this module matching your old URI for the same product. (probably the best approach unless you plan to change your URIs as part of the move).
2. Use a RewriteRule to rewrite the old requests to match the new requests. This lets both the old URIs and new URIs co-exist at the same time. Zen Cart and this module work together to automatically provide search engines with a "canonical link" so they know the two URIs have the same content and the "canonical link" is your preferred URI to display and use in search results. (good approach if the old URIs followed a pattern and the pattern has similar components to the new URIs you plan to use - can be used instead of 301s in many cases).
3. Use a 301 redirect to point each individual old URI to the new URI (personally my last choice - an option if you must change the URI or the hostname as part of your move).

Option one will not occur a penalty for the URI change... as no URI change has occurred. Option two usually does not incur a penalty (read more about canonical links). Option three usually incurs a slight negative penalty due to the URI change.

lhungil:

Not auto-magically by itself. You will need to do some work.

You have a few options... As other people have mentioned... you can

2. Add your products and when adding them assign a unique URI via this module matching your old URI for the same product. (probably the best approach unless you plan to change your URIs as part of the move).

3. Use a RewriteRule to rewrite the old requests to match the new requests. This lets both the old URIs and new URIs co-exist at the same time. Zen Cart and this module work together to automatically provide search engines with a "canonical link" so they know the two URIs have the same content and the "canonical link" is your preferred URI to display and use in search results. (good approach if the old URIs followed a pattern and the pattern has similar components to the new URIs you plan to use - can be used instead of 301s in many cases).

4. Use a 301 redirect to point each individual old URI to the new URI (personally my last choice - an option if you must change the URI or the hostname as part of your move).

Option one will not occur a penalty for the URI change... as no URI change has occurred. Option two usually does not incur a penalty (read more about canonical links). Option three usually incurs a slight negative penalty due to the URI change.and, unless I'm mistaken, Conor provided a HINT in his documentation how to achieve option one.. (a hint I posted about in my previous response)

but what do I know "living in my mom's basement sitting on this forum all day" and all..:laugh:

DivaVocals:

and, unless I'm mistaken, Conor provided a HINT in his documentation how to achieve option one.. (a hint I posted about in my previous response)

but what do I know "living in my mom's basement sitting on this forum all day" and all..:laugh:

Yes you need to get out and find a job....... :)

lhungil:

Not auto-magically by itself. You will need to do some work.

You have a few options... As other people have mentioned... you can

2. Add your products and when adding them assign a unique URI via this module matching your old URI for the same product. (probably the best approach unless you plan to change your URIs as part of the move).

3. Use a RewriteRule to rewrite the old requests to match the new requests. This lets both the old URIs and new URIs co-exist at the same time. Zen Cart and this module work together to automatically provide search engines with a "canonical link" so they know the two URIs have the same content and the "canonical link" is your preferred URI to display and use in search results. (good approach if the old URIs followed a pattern and the pattern has similar components to the new URIs you plan to use - can be used instead of 301s in many cases).

4. Use a 301 redirect to point each individual old URI to the new URI (personally my last choice - an option if you must change the URI or the hostname as part of your move).

Option one will not occur a penalty for the URI change... as no URI change has occurred. Option two usually does not incur a penalty (read more about canonical links). Option three usually incurs a slight negative penalty due to the URI change.

nice and succinct - thanks.. but i guess i'm still at a loss as to how to do step one.. and yes i've read the documenation and FAQ's about 5 times now.. if you could point me to the part in the documentation that spells out step one that would be outstanding..