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10 Jul 2015, 1:46 PM
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1&1 and SSL Enable

I did find a 'help' file on this site that gave info on how to set up the shopping cart with 1&1, but, as you can guess, I cannot find it. Does anybody know where it is please?

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10 Jul 2015, 2:08 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

The process of setting up a site on 1&1 is the same as other hosts, but the location of the tools (like phpMyAdmin) is different from a standard cPanel. Do you have specific questions?

10 Jul 2015, 2:08 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

I don't see anything in the FAQ or tutorials. Is there something about 1&1 that makes Zencart installation different from other hosts?

10 Jul 2015, 3:46 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

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The process of setting up a site on 1&1 is the same as other hosts, but the location of the tools (like phpMyAdmin) is different from a standard cPanel. Do you have specific questions?

I am having a nightmare. I have done everything 1&1 show but I am getting two different results. No pictures and no format or HTTPS:// error.

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10 Jul 2015, 4:11 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

Have you purchased an SSL certificate or are you using the 1&1 shared SSL for your site?

A link to the site in question would help.

10 Jul 2015, 4:20 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

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Have you purchased an SSL certificate or are you using the 1&1 shared SSL for your site?

A link to the site in question would help.

I am using QuickSSL Premium

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11 Jul 2015, 10:38 AM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

1&1 are terrible hosts for sophisticated sites. OK if you just want to load up a few pages of flat HTML - but they are useless for anything more complex.

With eCommerce, the most important thing technically is partnering with a host that has a good understanding of how to configure servers for eCommerce - zencart in particular (if you are using it, which you are).

Wave goodby to 1&1 and get together with a decent host. We use terranetwork. Never had a problem in over 10 years of hosting upwards of 100 zencart sites. A really nice feature offered by terranetwork is auto-backup every 6 hours. We've even had them install SSL certs on SUNDAYS and PUBLIC HOLIDAYS. Try getting that from places like 1&1...

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11 Jul 2015, 1:02 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

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1&1 are terrible hosts for sophisticated sites. OK if you just want to load up a few pages of flat HTML - but they are useless for anything more complex.

With eCommerce, the most important thing technically is partnering with a host that has a good understanding of how to configure servers for eCommerce - zencart in particular (if you are using it, which you are).

Wave goodby to 1&1 and get together with a decent host. We use terranetwork. Never had a problem in over 10 years of hosting upwards of 100 zencart sites. A really nice feature offered by terranetwork is auto-backup every 6 hours. We've even had them install SSL certs on SUNDAYS and PUBLIC HOLIDAYS. Try getting that from places like 1&1...

I will look at moving over to them when my contract is up at the end of the year. But the problem is now. I have done everything that 1&1 have said and everything that zencart have said still no joy. I have been trying to add two images to show the problem, but no chance.

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11 Jul 2015, 1:30 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

A link to your site?

11 Jul 2015, 8:42 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

Would you post the upper part of /includes/configure.php, the part where the HTTPS_SERVER, HTTP_SERVER and ENABLE_SSL is specified.

11 Jul 2015, 9:08 PM
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Would you post the upper part of /includes/configure.php, the part where the HTTPS_SERVER, HTTP_SERVER and ENABLE_SSL is specified.

   define('HTTP_SERVER', 'http://jmi.edencraftsupplies.co.uk');
  define('HTTPS_SERVER', 'https://jmi.edencraftsupplies.co.uk');

  // Use secure webserver for checkout procedure?
  define('ENABLE_SSL', 'false');
  define('DIR_WS_CATALOG', '/');
  define('DIR_WS_HTTPS_CATALOG', '/');

  define('DIR_WS_IMAGES', 'images/');
  define('DIR_WS_INCLUDES', 'includes/');
  define('DIR_WS_FUNCTIONS', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'functions/');
  define('DIR_WS_CLASSES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'classes/');
  define('DIR_WS_MODULES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'modules/');
  define('DIR_WS_LANGUAGES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'languages/');
  define('DIR_WS_DOWNLOAD_PUBLIC', DIR_WS_CATALOG . 'pub/');
  define('DIR_WS_TEMPLATES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'templates/');

  define('DIR_WS_PHPBB', '/');

// * DIR_FS_* = Filesystem directories (local/physical)
  //the following path is a COMPLETE path to your Zen Cart files. eg: /var/www/vhost/accountname/public_html/store/
  define('DIR_FS_CATALOG', '/homepages/20/d503465712/htdocs/shops/mainshop/');

  //the following path is a COMPLETE path to the /logs/ folder  eg: /var/www/vhost/accountname/public_html/store/logs ... and no trailing slash
  define('DIR_FS_LOGS', '/homepages/20/d503465712/htdocs/shops/mainshop/logs');

  define('DIR_FS_DOWNLOAD', DIR_FS_CATALOG . 'download/');
  define('DIR_FS_DOWNLOAD_PUBLIC', DIR_FS_CATALOG . 'pub/');
  define('DIR_WS_UPLOADS', DIR_WS_IMAGES . 'uploads/');
  define('DIR_FS_UPLOADS', DIR_FS_CATALOG . DIR_WS_UPLOADS

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11 Jul 2015, 9:28 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

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define('HTTP_SERVER', 'http://jmi.edencraftsupplies.co.uk');
define('HTTPS_SERVER', 'https://jmi.edencraftsupplies.co.uk');

// Use secure webserver for checkout procedure?
define('ENABLE_SSL', 'false');
define('DIR_WS_CATALOG', '/');
define('DIR_WS_HTTPS_CATALOG', '/');

define('DIR_WS_IMAGES', 'images/');
define('DIR_WS_INCLUDES', 'includes/');
define('DIR_WS_FUNCTIONS', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'functions/');
define('DIR_WS_CLASSES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'classes/');
define('DIR_WS_MODULES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'modules/');
define('DIR_WS_LANGUAGES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'languages/');
define('DIR_WS_DOWNLOAD_PUBLIC', DIR_WS_CATALOG . 'pub/');
define('DIR_WS_TEMPLATES', DIR_WS_INCLUDES . 'templates/');

define('DIR_WS_PHPBB', '/');

// * DIR_FS_* = Filesystem directories (local/physical)
//the following path is a COMPLETE path to your Zen Cart files. eg: /var/www/vhost/accountname/public_html/store/
define('DIR_FS_CATALOG', '/homepages/20/d503465712/htdocs/shops/mainshop/');

//the following path is a COMPLETE path to the /logs/ folder eg: /var/www/vhost/accountname/public_html/store/logs ... and no trailing slash
define('DIR_FS_LOGS', '/homepages/20/d503465712/htdocs/shops/mainshop/logs');

define('DIR_FS_DOWNLOAD', DIR_FS_CATALOG . 'download/');
define('DIR_FS_DOWNLOAD_PUBLIC', DIR_FS_CATALOG . 'pub/');
define('DIR_WS_UPLOADS', DIR_WS_IMAGES . 'uploads/');
define('DIR_FS_UPLOADS', DIR_FS_CATALOG . DIR_WS_UPLOADS


```php
define('ENABLE_SSL', 'false'); 

should be set to true, otherwise https will never work

11 Jul 2015, 9:34 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

I ave had it at true, did not work

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12 Jul 2015, 8:42 AM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

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I will look at moving over to them when my contract is up at the end of the year. But the problem is now. I have done everything that 1&1 have said and everything that zencart have said still no joy. I have been trying to add two images to show the problem, but no chance.

I would be looking at what I am LOSING (revenue wise) by having a site that is non-functional, or "precarious" in any way.

I don't know what you are selling, but let's imagine you are looking at Gross sales of £250 a day, with a net profit of £100 a day.

Between now and the end of the year, there are roughly 160 days.

You are missing out on (based on my numbers);

Gross Revenue: 40,000
Net Profit: 16,000

... and you are fussing over a few pounds you've wasted by using the crappy 1&1 system?

Doesn't make sense to me...

(Unless your site is just a "hobby" in which case it's not important if it earns money).

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12 Jul 2015, 1:51 PM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

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I am using QuickSSL Premium
Did you purchase that certificate for the subdomain or your primary domain? According to GeoTrust's documentation on that certificate, in the birdseed:

Bonus: Secure domain.com for free when you order www.domain.com *

* This is only applicable to single-level domains. For example, www.test.domain.com will not secure test.domain.com.

Your issue could be explained if you're trying to secure jmi.edencraftsupplies.uk.com when the certificate was purchased for the primary domain.

12 Jul 2015, 2:35 PM
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I would be looking at what I am LOSING (revenue wise) by having a site that is non-functional, or "precarious" in any way.

I don't know what you are selling, but let's imagine you are looking at Gross sales of £250 a day, with a net profit of £100 a day.

Between now and the end of the year, there are roughly 160 days.

You are missing out on (based on my numbers);

Gross Revenue: 40,000
Net Profit: 16,000

... and you are fussing over a few pounds you've wasted by using the crappy 1&1 system?

Doesn't make sense to me...

(Unless your site is just a "hobby" in which case it's not important if it earns money).

Very true. I have been thinking about what you said yesterday. ATM I am in two minds what to do. The site is only setting up so I cannot afford to move. I do not hold any credit card info. I will have to have a very long and hard think of my direction.

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12 Jul 2015, 4:05 PM
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define('ENABLE_SSL', 'false');

> should be set to true, otherwise https will never work

Yes and no... A site set with ENABLE_SSL can be tested on a page by page basis to see if the cert works, but navigation by clicking a link from that page is likely to change back to http:. This is much like the possibility of loading the login page of a secured site by simply removing the s in https:.

Also, it is a good thing to test if the SSL functions while the site is still not set to use it in case (like here) the SSL does not function. Once verified, then yes apply all necessary changes to make the site functional with the cert.

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13 Jul 2015, 7:13 AM
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Re: 1&1 and SSL Enable

An individual SSL cert also requires a dedicated IP address. Perhaps the new IP has not fully propagated yet.

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