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16 May 2006, 2:31 PM
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Hi,

In the new Zancart page where ist the downlod section for contributions

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17 May 2006, 11:13 PM
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Don't mean to be a pain but was there a reason the old contributions download pages could not have been maintained (even on a seperate temporary URL) while the new downloads pages were being developed - seems standard practice to me....

17 May 2006, 11:19 PM
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Don't mean to be a pain but was there a reason the old contributions download pages could not have been maintained (even on a seperate temporary URL) while the new downloads pages were being developed - seems standard practice to me....

Yes, there is a reason - it is called an sql injection attack - the old database was vulnerable and so we did not want to leave it open.

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17 May 2006, 11:21 PM
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I'm sure they are doing what is best. So yes, there is a reason. :)

18 May 2006, 4:01 PM
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I'm not convinced that there aren't other options that could be done to provide downloads. Zen Cart is a widely used product which in turn needs excellent support. Using a database to allow downloads isn’t the only option either. Anyone could take the files and place them into a folder and create a temp page without a database and use straight download links. At least this would resolve the immediate problem rather then leaving the entire community in the dark with no real time scale on when the problem will be resolved. As I said I’m not convinced and I think there are other options that could be looked at. At least for the sake of credibility, and professionalism.

18 May 2006, 4:08 PM
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what is it your looking for I might be able to point you to where it might be

but being rude will get you nowhere...

and credibility and professionalisim

talk to the freakin script kiddies that think its fun to screw peoples sites up
and entire computers up....

also how about the team makes sure of the integrity of the files before they just create a downloads site...... hey now it would be real professional to let people download files that ( I have no idea this is just a statement ) might have been comprimised.......

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18 May 2006, 4:10 PM
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Out of order!

A question is one thing; whining after being given a decent response is another.

You seem to forget that this is all done for free. What do you consider has been your positive contribution to the community?

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18 May 2006, 4:17 PM
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I don't think my post was being rude but expressing what a lot of other unspoken people are feeling. It's not personal its business. And as everyone knows businesses need to make money and when your product isn't supported correctly or isn't working properly money gets lots and tensions get high.

I have know doubt the zen cart developers are working hard at fixing the problem but I also think that there are other options out there that could be explored to ensure that the communities integrity and cohesion is intact.

Rather then just saying here is the problem deal with it lets figure a way to make what we currently have work. I would be willing to setup a nuke site with a downloads section allowing members to upload there own files for a short term fix.

18 May 2006, 4:19 PM
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And to answer you comment about what I have done to contribute. I have donated several times in the past with various accounts. In most cases when I use zen cart I try to give back.

18 May 2006, 4:23 PM
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Re: Download section

just give it a little bit

its not quite as simple as you think....
when you go to your nuke site and set up the downloads section how long do you think it would take you to setup the downloads.,
create the categories, add them make sure they work.
so rather than have you start a really big project hows about letting these guys finish the one they have started... there were ALOT of downloads to have to resetup

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18 May 2006, 4:26 PM
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I could have it up in about 1 hour. Make one category and place all the downloads in that category. There is a search function so people could use that rather then making a bunch of sub catagories.

18 May 2006, 4:27 PM
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OK - although you have to be very careful ( we all do) in speaking for the majority because in reality, all this computer stuff is very insular, and unless people DO actually voice their opinions, we really don't know what they think.

However, the important thing here is Merlin's last paragraph...> also how about the team makes sure of the integrity of the files before they just create a downloads site...... hey now it would be real professional to let people download files that ( I have no idea this is just a statement ) might have been comprimised.

As you say Zencart has a massive userbase... we should just be grateful that the team DO take their obligations (real or perceived) seriously, and let's face it, they are going to be pretty cautious after a hack attack that could possibly have caused far greater damage than it did.

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18 May 2006, 4:32 PM
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I understand completly what your saying, BUT I also think that we can at least explore other options for the short term. Because when all is said and done we dont really know when the downloads will be fixed.

Im sure many community memeber have past downloads that could be provided on a temporary scale. Lets work together and help eachother here.

18 May 2006, 4:33 PM
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I could have it up in about 1 hour. Make one category and place all the downloads in that category. There is a search function so people could use that rather then making a bunch of sub catagories.
Wouldnt work
there are 1.1 1.2 and 1.3 versions of some of these...

they would need to be seperated

but either way Im gonna head outta here this is going nowhere.,
the downloads section will be done when the devs are happy with it and are sure it works right and is secure

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18 May 2006, 4:37 PM
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It might be easy for you to just check out of the problem, but for me I have some serious issues that need to be solved and I need the downloads section. So dismissing this issue because it hits close to home or saying its too hard of a project to deal with doesn’t help me or anyone else that needs downloads.

To answer your question about the 3 version why not create 3 categories.

18 May 2006, 5:00 PM
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Im sure many community memeber have past downloads that could be provided on a temporary scale. Lets work together and help eachother here.

Which is EXACTLY what has been happening when people ask for the download they need!

All you need to do is say what you want - if someone has it, it can be posted as an attachment.

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18 May 2006, 5:04 PM
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I understand completly what your saying, BUT I also think that we can at least explore other options for the short term. Because when all is said and done we dont really know when the downloads will be fixed.

Im sure many community memeber have past downloads that could be provided on a temporary scale. Lets work together and help eachother here.
We can explore other options. We have explored other options. And in the spirit of this community members have adopted a variety of mutial aid strategies so that the Dev Team an concentrate on a permanent rather than temporary solution.

Specifically we have been emailing mods on requets when we have them, adding links to our sigs to make them easier to find, hosting them externally and helping to point people in the right directon if we don't have the mod ourselves. Merlin even offered to help you a few posts back, though I doubt he'll be feeling as generous now.

I suggest you stop attacking the Dev Team and do a search for any mods you need urgently.

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18 May 2006, 5:27 PM
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I asked earlier for what mods you need

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18 May 2006, 5:48 PM
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Ok, so you guys all have very valid points and I'm not trying to start a war here. I'm simply trying to get some results with finding a better way for people on the larger scale to get the downloads they need quickly. Granted the "post a request" has worked for some on and indivdual scale, but in my case I have posted a few time with no replies.

I have setup a download site at the link below. Simply register a user or use this account to add downloads. I think it might actualy work really well if we can ban together on this one. This might actualy take the pressure off the dev team in the short term and allow them the neccissary time to get the work done right rather then rushed.
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Just trying to help out here. ;)

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