Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

DivaVocals:

Images are compressed when they are written to the image cache.. Your original images stay intact..

So why have a compression setting for large images, if large images never get compressed when they are served as large images? In other words, when does the large image compression setting actually work? The small image compression setting works when the image is served in the small size, and likewise for the medium served image, but I still cannot see what effect the large image compression setting has on either stored images or on served images.

finlander:

So why have a compression setting for large images, if large images never get compressed when they are served as large images? In other words, when does the large image compression setting actually work? The small image compression setting works when the image is served in the small size, and likewise for the medium served image, but I still cannot see what effect the large image compression setting has on either stored images or on served images.
You are misunderstanding what Diva is saying, Large images are compressed when they are copied to the image handler cache and this compressed large image is what is normally served, (unless you have cocked something up, or you are using lightbox, slimbox, fualbox, choclate box and havent merged the files correctly).

Note the word Copied in red above
The large image you upload is not touched by image handler except to make a copy of it and compress that copy and store that copy in the image handler cache.

Your original Large image is left untouched so that, at some stage in the future, if you change your watermark or the size you want the large image to display at you can just upload the new water mark set the new sizes for images, clear the image handler cache, and your new images will work straight away.

If image handler did actually overwrite your original image, you would have to reupload all the product images on your site, whenever your branding (and watermark) changes.

A link to your site to see what the issue is might help

Also what happens when you right click on the large image lightbox gives you does it tell you the name of the image (never used lightbox, slimbox etc)

thanks Nigel,

I don't have a problem or anything with my site, I just was curious because I couldn't see that the large image being served was compressed in any way .. but I use lightbox and right-clicking on the large lightbox image does *not *give a menu that allows me to see the size, so perhaps that large image being served via lightbox **is **getting compressed .. I just can't tell one way or the other.

The large image viewable in the IH admin area must be the native image (I'm guessing), or an uncompressed copy, because it is full native-image size. The only problem would be if that image is a copy, because according to what you said, it should be compressed to my 85% setting (in that case), but it's full size, so I'm guessing it must just be the native original. That's fine, maybe we see large native in IH admin, but lightbox serves compressed large ..

Maybe the large lightbox image is 85% compressed .. I just can't tell because it does not give a contextual right-click menu.

no biggie .. I was just wondering.

http://www.vintage-adventures.com/

finlander:

thanks Nigel,

Maybe the large lightbox image is 85% compressed .. I just can't tell because it does not give a contextual right-click menu.

no biggie .. I was just wondering.

http://www.vintage-adventures.com/

lightbox may not give you a right click contextual menu but if you look at the source code

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript"> document.write('<a href="images/ads/1937Chrysler.JPG" rel="lightbox-g" title="1937 CHRYSLER SEDAN Ad \"ALL OVER THE MAP\""><img src="bmz_cache/e/e7cb8afd368ec35060c3d36cfa60f3af.image.150x206.JPG" alt="1937 CHRYSLER SEDAN Ad \"ALL OVER THE MAP\"" title=" 1937 CHRYSLER SEDAN Ad \"ALL OVER THE MAP\" " width="150" height="206" /><br /><span class="imgLink">larger image</span></a>'); //--></script>

<a href="images/ads/1937Chrysler.JPG" rel="lightbox-g" title="1937 CHRYSLER SEDAN Ad" all="" over="" the="" map""="">
<img src="bmz_cache/e/e7cb8afd368ec35060c3d36cfa60f3af.image.150x206.JPG" alt="1937 CHRYSLER SEDAN Ad "ALL OVER THE MAP"" title="1937 CHRYSLER SEDAN Ad "ALL OVER THE MAP"" width="150" height="206"/>
<br/>
<span class="imgLink">
</a>

You see that the image displayed in the page is coming from image handlers cache, but the one in the lightbox link is the original image, there are instruction somewhere on how to successfully merge the files, i am sure Diva who has (I think) successfuly merged these files will be able to tell you where they are

thanks again, Nigel, that makes sense, but also sounds pretty complex, I may tackle it at some point in the future. It's not critical right now, but very good to know that lightbox files need merged w/ IH in order to compress served large image. Very good to know. I'll check with Diva when I have the time to try the merge. Thank you for your time.

finlander:

thanks again, Nigel, that makes sense, but also sounds pretty complex, I may tackle it at some point in the future. It's not critical right now, but very good to know that lightbox files need merged w/ IH in order to compress served large image. Very good to know. I'll check with Diva when I have the time to try the merge. Thank you for your time.

Actually you may want to query that on the lightbox support thread, as the version available here is an older version

There is apparently a newer version and they were discussing IH2 lightbox compatibility about a week ago on this thread here

I need help with IH2 as some of the catagories will show the extra images on my site but other will not. The picture upload without problems and I can see them in admin they just dont show up on the online catalog.
Any help would be great,Thank you

Sorry I forgot website details.
This page works.

http://d-drivesportsenglish.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=604

This page doesn`t

http://d-drivesportsenglish.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=143

Using 1.3.9e

Value Action
Small Image Width 150
Small Image Height 150
Heading Image Width - Admin 57
Heading Image Height - Admin 40
Subcategory Image Width 100
Subcategory Image Height 57
Calculate Image Size true
Image Required true
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1
Image - Shopping Cart Width 50
Image - Shopping Cart Height 40
Category Icon Image Width - Product Info Pages 57
Category Icon Image Height - Product Info Pages 40
Top Subcategory Image Width 150
Top Subcategory Image Height 85
Product Info - Image Width 300
Product Info - Image Height 500
Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG
Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row 3
Image - Product Listing Width 150
Image - Product Listing Height 150
Image - Product New Listing Width 150
Image - Product New Listing Height 150
Image - New Products Width 150
Image - New Products Height 150
Image - Featured Products Width 150
Image - Featured Products Height 150
Image - Product All Listing Width 150
Image - Product All Listing Height 150
Product Image - No Image Status 1
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif
Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1
IH resize images yes
IH watermark small images no
IH small image filetype no_change
IH zoom small images yes
IH small image background 255:255:255
IH small image compression quality 85
IH watermark medium images no
IH medium image compression quality 85
IH watermark large images no
IH medium image filetype no_change
IH large image compression quality 85
IH medium image background 255:255:255
IH large image filetype no_change
IH large image background 255:255:255
IH large image maximum width 750
IH large image maximum height 550
IH watermark gravity

Thanks again

I just tested both of those pages and the larger image opened for both of them. I'm not a great expert with IH, so I don't want to give you bad advice, but I would clear the IH cache and the browser cache for starters, though, as it seems to be something specific to your computer that might be causing one to not open for you.

Hi Diva, all of the following products work; http://www.crushcosmetics.com.au/eyes/eyeshadow - until you scroll down to the "Wet N Wild Colour Icon Eyeshadow Single" product - this one was added AFTER our server migration. As mentioned previously, the issue i have is the size of the mouseover image (for new products only), and the fact they are not watermarked. All products created prior to our server migration work fine.

Image settings are;

Small Image Width 150
Small Image Height 150 Info
Heading Image Width - Admin 57 Info
Heading Image Height - Admin 40 Info
Subcategory Image Width 220 Info
Subcategory Image Height 220 Info
Calculate Image Size true Info
Image Required true Info
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1 Info
Image - Shopping Cart Width 80 Info
Image - Shopping Cart Height 80 Info
Category Icon Image Width - Product Info Pages 350 Info
Category Icon Image Height - Product Info Pages 350 Info
Top Subcategory Image Width 250 Info
Top Subcategory Image Height 250 Info
Product Info - Image Width 250 Info
Product Info - Image Height 250 Info
Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED Info
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG Info
Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row 3 Info
Image - Product Listing Width 150 Info
Image - Product Listing Height 150 Info
Image - Product New Listing Width 150 Info
Image - Product New Listing Height 150 Info
Image - New Products Width 150 Info
Image - New Products Height 150 Info
Image - Featured Products Width 150 Info
Image - Featured Products Height 150 Info
Image - Product All Listing Width 150 Info
Image - Product All Listing Height 150 Info
Product Image - No Image Status 1 Info
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif Info
Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1 Info
IH resize images yes Info
IH small image filetype no_change Info
IH small image background 255:255:255 Info
IH watermark small images no Info
IH zoom small images yes Info
IH small image compression quality 85 Info
IH medium image filetype no_change Info
IH medium image background 255:255:255 Info
IH watermark medium images no Info
IH medium image compression quality 85 Info
IH large image filetype no_change Info
IH large image background 255:255:255 Info
IH watermark large images yes Info
IH large image compression quality 85 Info
IH large image maximum width 700 Info
IH large image maximum height 700 Info
IH watermark gravity Center

Im still leaning towards a permissions issue with the new server, but any insight you might have would be appreciated.

DivaVocals:

We need the usual compliment of information that we always ask for here..

• Link to your site (specifically links DIRECTLY to the products which work correctly and links to the ones that don't)

• What are you image settings??

Hello everyone! I need help. For some reason the main pictures(on the product description pages) do not show up on Internet Explorer.

Another thing is the additional pictures will open up into a blank page instead of having the fual slimbox effect. Both of these are issues with Internet Explorer. Any ideas?

Thank you!

joyjoy:

Hello everyone! I need help. For some reason the main pictures(on the product description pages) do not show up on Internet Explorer.

Another thing is the additional pictures will open up into a blank page instead of having the fual slimbox effect. Both of these are issues with Internet Explorer. Any ideas?

Thank you!

sigh

We need the USUAL compliment of information that we always ask for here..

• Link to your site (specifically links DIRECTLY to the products which work correctly and links to the ones that don't)
• What are your image settings??
  Providing this when you posts helps cut down on back and forth guess sessions.. Much better if you provide FULL information up front.. Thanks:wink:

Fual Slimbox questions are off topic for this support thread.. You'll need to post any questions regarding Fual Slimbox on the Fual Slimbox support thread..

Nice site.. I might have to bite some of your styling ideas:laugh:!!! (I kid I kid..) Thanks for providing the detailed data.. It helps when we see what you see..:wink:

First off clear your cache.. and before you ask will this hurt anything the answer is NO IH2 will recreate your cache.. Secondly your water mark settings are all set to NOT watermark.. So try changing those settings, clear your browser cache and see if that resolves things..

Scott_C:

Hi Diva, all of the following products work; http://www.crushcosmetics.com.au/eyes/eyeshadow - until you scroll down to the "Wet N Wild Colour Icon Eyeshadow Single" product - this one was added AFTER our server migration. As mentioned previously, the issue i have is the size of the mouseover image (for new products only), and the fact they are not watermarked. All products created prior to our server migration work fine.

Image settings are;

Small Image Width 150
Small Image Height 150 Info
Heading Image Width - Admin 57 Info
Heading Image Height - Admin 40 Info
Subcategory Image Width 220 Info
Subcategory Image Height 220 Info
Calculate Image Size true Info
Image Required true Info
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1 Info
Image - Shopping Cart Width 80 Info
Image - Shopping Cart Height 80 Info
Category Icon Image Width - Product Info Pages 350 Info
Category Icon Image Height - Product Info Pages 350 Info
Top Subcategory Image Width 250 Info
Top Subcategory Image Height 250 Info
Product Info - Image Width 250 Info
Product Info - Image Height 250 Info
Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED Info
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG Info
Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row 3 Info
Image - Product Listing Width 150 Info
Image - Product Listing Height 150 Info
Image - Product New Listing Width 150 Info
Image - Product New Listing Height 150 Info
Image - New Products Width 150 Info
Image - New Products Height 150 Info
Image - Featured Products Width 150 Info
Image - Featured Products Height 150 Info
Image - Product All Listing Width 150 Info
Image - Product All Listing Height 150 Info
Product Image - No Image Status 1 Info
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif Info
Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1 Info
IH resize images yes Info
IH small image filetype no_change Info
IH small image background 255:255:255 Info
IH watermark small images no Info
IH zoom small images yes Info
IH small image compression quality 85 Info
IH medium image filetype no_change Info
IH medium image background 255:255:255 Info
IH watermark medium images no Info
IH medium image compression quality 85 Info
IH large image filetype no_change Info
IH large image background 255:255:255 Info
IH watermark large images yes Info
IH large image compression quality 85 Info
IH large image maximum width 700 Info
IH large image maximum height 700 Info
IH watermark gravity Center

Im still leaning towards a permissions issue with the new server, but any insight you might have would be appreciated.

Product Link: http://www.luxury7star.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=21_98&products_id=30

Image Settings:

Title Value Action
Small Image Width 140
Small Image Height 125
Heading Image Width - Admin 57
Heading Image Height - Admin 40
Subcategory Image Width 140
Subcategory Image Height 125
Calculate Image Size true
Image Required false
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1
Image - Shopping Cart Width 50
Image - Shopping Cart Height 40
Category Icon Image Width - Product Info Pages 57
Category Icon Image Height - Product Info Pages 40
Top Subcategory Image Width 57
Top Subcategory Image Height 40
Product Info - Image Width 130
Product Info - Image Height 100
Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG
Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row 3
Image - Product Listing Width 140
Image - Product Listing Height 125
Image - Product New Listing Width 140
Image - Product New Listing Height 125
Image - New Products Width 140
Image - New Products Height 125
Image - Featured Products Width 140
Image - Featured Products Height 125
Image - Product All Listing Width 140
Image - Product All Listing Height 125
Product Image - No Image Status 1
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif
Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1
IH resize images yes
IH watermark small images no
IH small image filetype no_change
IH zoom small images yes
IH small image background 255:255:255
IH small image compression quality 85
IH watermark medium images yes
IH medium image compression quality 85
IH watermark large images yes
IH large image compression quality 85
IH medium image filetype no_change
IH medium image background 255:255:255
IH large image filetype no_change
IH large image background 255:255:255
IH large image maximum width 750
IH large image maximum height 550
IH watermark gravity South

Thank you!!

Zen 1.3.9 h
Came across an issue and curious how to go about fixing.
when adding products of similar names such as
31001FRW
31001FR

the later one to be added image handler auto-populates the product with the first product images and if I remove the images from the second product it removes it from the first.

These are in two different categories and each consist of 4 images each but are different images.

As I am filling in thousands of products Im bound to run into this more and more often. Any help is deeply appreciated.

Thanks for the kind words Diva. We certainly went to a lot of trouble with this site, even taking our own product photos in a lightbox.

My problem is fixed. i had to change the write permissions for the bmz-cache directory, plus all subdirectories and files.

Cheers,

Scott.

Any luck on my issue?

joyjoy:

Product Link: http://www.luxury7star.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=21_98&products_id=30

Image Settings:

Title Value Action
Small Image Width 140
Small Image Height 125
Heading Image Width - Admin 57
Heading Image Height - Admin 40
Subcategory Image Width 140
Subcategory Image Height 125
Calculate Image Size true
Image Required false
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1
Image - Shopping Cart Width 50
Image - Shopping Cart Height 40
Category Icon Image Width - Product Info Pages 57
Category Icon Image Height - Product Info Pages 40
Top Subcategory Image Width 57
Top Subcategory Image Height 40
Product Info - Image Width 130
Product Info - Image Height 100
Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG
Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row 3
Image - Product Listing Width 140
Image - Product Listing Height 125
Image - Product New Listing Width 140
Image - Product New Listing Height 125
Image - New Products Width 140
Image - New Products Height 125
Image - Featured Products Width 140
Image - Featured Products Height 125
Image - Product All Listing Width 140
Image - Product All Listing Height 125
Product Image - No Image Status 1
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif
Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1
IH resize images yes
IH watermark small images no
IH small image filetype no_change
IH zoom small images yes
IH small image background 255:255:255
IH small image compression quality 85
IH watermark medium images yes
IH medium image compression quality 85
IH watermark large images yes
IH large image compression quality 85
IH medium image filetype no_change
IH medium image background 255:255:255
IH large image filetype no_change
IH large image background 255:255:255
IH large image maximum width 750
IH large image maximum height 550
IH watermark gravity South

Thank you!!

richphitzwell:

Zen 1.3.9 h
Came across an issue and curious how to go about fixing.
when adding products of similar names such as
31001FRW
31001FR

the later one to be added image handler auto-populates the product with the first product images and if I remove the images from the second product it removes it from the first.

These are in two different categories and each consist of 4 images each but are different images.

As I am filling in thousands of products Im bound to run into this more and more often. Any help is deeply appreciated.Not really an IH2 created issue rather this is how Zen Cart identifies/manages additional product images.. My guess is that based on the behavior you are describing you have product images with the similar names and Zen Cart is interpreting them as additional images for another product as per these Zen Cart FAQs:
Why am I seeing images for other products on my product pages?

How do I add multiple images to a product?

How do I add more than one image of a product? I want to have a main image and also one or two other images that show more parts of a particular product. How/where do I add additional images to a product page? Thanks!

IH2 is meant to ease the work required to setup images for your store.. It works WITH default Zen Cart functionality, it does not replace it.. Here's some additional FAQs which discuss how product images work in Zen Cart..
Image Preparation - How-to

My images are distorted/fuzzy/squished, help?

Check out these FAQs and see if they help clarify how Zen Cart works with product images..

joyjoy:

Any luck on my issue?IH2 has been tested on all browsers and nigel did a LOT of hard work to ensure that the IH2 javascript is cross browser compatible.. What's going on with your site site now is probably a CSS layout issue, and not an IH2 issue.. Have you posted your question on the CSS/layout section of the forum??

Nope, I'll head over there now. Thank you!