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4 Jan 2011, 5:08 AM
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Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Scott_C:

Thanks for the kind words Diva. We certainly went to a lot of trouble with this site, even taking our own product photos in a lightbox.

My problem is fixed. i had to change the write permissions for the bmz-cache directory, plus all subdirectories and files.

Cheers,

Scott.Cool!!!:bigups:

4 Jan 2011, 1:00 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

finlander:

I just tested both of those pages and the larger image opened for both of them. I'm not a great expert with IH, so I don't want to give you bad advice, but I would clear the IH cache and the browser cache for starters, though, as it seems to be something specific to your computer that might be causing one to not open for you.

Thanks for looking at the site but that not the problem at all. The second page should have 4 images,not just the one. Thanks again,but it looks like it will never work correctly.I guess you get what you pay for. $10 for first person to figure out this problem. Paypal waiting.

4 Jan 2011, 1:20 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

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I need help with IH2 as some of the catagories will show the extra images on my site but other will not. The picture upload without problems and I can see them in admin they just dont show up on the online catalog.
Any help would be great,Thank youAnd if you look in the IH2 readme there is all kinds of helpful information to help your troubleshoot your site.. The USUAL reason for additional images not to show is that all of the images are not the same file format. If the main product image is a JPG, then the additional images must ALSO be JPGs too.. This is the only case I know of where IH2 will display the additional images as being there but the store will not display them.. (and I do include this info in the readme) A screenprint of what you see in IH2 would be helpful..

bakaguyjean:

Thanks for looking at the site but that not the problem at all. The second page should have 4 images,not just the one. Thanks again,but it looks like it will never work correctly.I guess you get what you pay for. $10 for first person to figure out this problem. Paypal waiting.Not true.. IH2 works successfully for many people, and most problems are caused by incorrect installs or incorrect usage.. Suggest double checking your images as I suggested above..

4 Jan 2011, 1:52 PM
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bakaguyjean:

I need help with IH2 as some of the catagories will show the extra images on my site but other will not. The picture upload without problems and I can see them in admin they just dont show up on the online catalog.
Any help would be great,Thank you

Hi, when you say 'extra images' are you talking about 2nd and 3rd images for the product? Is the main product picture showing?

4 Jan 2011, 2:27 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Yep.. he posted examples of where it works and where it doesn't:

http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpost.php?p=977806&postcount=6195

Scott_C:

Hi, when you say 'extra images' are you talking about 2nd and 3rd images for the product? Is the main product picture showing?

4 Jan 2011, 2:57 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Well the most obvious thing I can think of is the naming conventions..

For example, product image; F1_Chassis_Corally.jpg - additional images should be;

F1_Chassis_Corally_02.jpg
F1_Chassis_Corally_03.jpg

etc.

Also, the Fual Slimbox is a great mod that works just fine with IH2; http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=product_contrib_info&products_id=830 - The product photos would look great in a lightbox. (Just a thought!)

4 Jan 2011, 3:53 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Not likely.. IH2 takes care of the image naming following Zen Carts requirements for additional product images naming conventions.. There is no work required by the shopowner to take advantage of this feature..

In fact a shopowner doesn't have to worry about this at all.. If they upload a main product image named flower.jpg, and three additional images named tulip.jpg, daisy.jpg, and rose.jpg, IH2 would correctly rename all the additional images to the proper naming convention required for them to be recognized as additional images by Zen Cart. So using my example, IH2 would rename tulip.jpg, daisy.jpg, and **rose.jpg **to flower_01.jpg, flower_02.jpg, and flower_03.jpg.

IH2 takes the name of the main product image and then appropriately names the additional product images so that they are linked to the correct product.

The MOST common reason for additional images to not appear on the product when they appear in the IH2 admin has EVERYTHING to do with using mixed image file fomats for the main and additional product images.. You cannot have a main product image be a JPG while the additional product images are another file format (say GIF or PNG for example)

So the way for this to work correctly is that you must make sure that the main product image and all additional images uploaded MUST be the same filetype.. (I do believe this is covered in the IH2 readme documentation..)

and by the way you cannot "fool" IH2 by simply changing the file extension of the additional images.. If the main product image is a JPG, then you must convert any additional images that are not the same format to the correct matching format.

Scott_C:

Well the most obvious thing I can think of is the naming conventions..

For example, product image; F1_Chassis_Corally.jpg - additional images should be;

F1_Chassis_Corally_02.jpg
F1_Chassis_Corally_03.jpg

etc.

Also, the Fual Slimbox is a great mod that works just fine with IH2; http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=product_contrib_info&products_id=830 - The product photos would look great in a lightbox. (Just a thought!)

4 Jan 2011, 4:25 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

DivaVocals:

Not really an IH2 created issue rather this is how Zen Cart identifies/manages additional product images.. My guess is that based on the behavior you are describing you have product images with the similar names and Zen Cart is interpreting them as additional images for another product as per these Zen Cart FAQs:
Why am I seeing images for other products on my product pages?

How do I add multiple images to a product?

How do I add more than one image of a product? I want to have a main image and also one or two other images that show more parts of a particular product. How/where do I add additional images to a product page? Thanks!

IH2 is meant to ease the work required to setup images for your store.. It works WITH default Zen Cart functionality, it does not replace it.. Here's some additional FAQs which discuss how product images work in Zen Cart..
Image Preparation - How-to

My images are distorted/fuzzy/squished, help?

Check out these FAQs and see if they help clarify how Zen Cart works with product images..

Thanks, I assumed IH2 took over the functionality. My bad. I still need to figure out a way to have the query be more precise as I cant control the model numbers... Im actually somewhat shocked that zen does this as abc is not the same as abcd.

4 Jan 2011, 4:50 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

richphitzwell:

Thanks, I assumed IH2 took over the functionality. My bad.No worries.. It's a common misunderstanding about how IH2 works..:smile: I think I'll need to re-write the IH2 readme and add references to these FAQs to the documentation..

richphitzwell:

I still need to figure out a way to have the query be more precise as I cant control the model numbers... Im actually somewhat shocked that zen does this as abc is not the same as abcd.Maybe not..

You may not be able to control the model numbers, but you absolutely CAN control what you name your images..

If you make sure they are not named in a way which will subject them to be interpreted as additional images, then your problem will be resolved.. Now before you say, "but Diva I have THOUSANDS of images to rename.. I simply can't do it all":smile: I suggest looking into one of the many FREE bulk image renaming tools.. Many of them will allow you to re-name FOLDERS FULL of images and with the right settings you could instantly rename them all in a way that each image name is unique enough for you to use them with IH2 so that Zen Carts additional image coding won't link the wrong images to the wrong products..

Now BEFORE you protest, I used this very same technique I describe on a clients site where she LITERALLY had 20 additional images for EACH of her products. All of her images had such similar names that when she uploaded them it was a clusterf***... Using the bulk renaming utility solved a similar problem we had on her site..

Once we had the main product images re-named so that each was TRULY a unique name, IH2 took care of properly naming the additional product images and the problem was SOLVED!!!

5 Jan 2011, 12:15 AM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Thats interesting, ive never used IH2 for additional images, Ive always added the product image and then FTP'd the additional ones. :smile:

DivaVocals:

Not likely.. IH2 takes care of the image naming following Zen Carts requirements for additional product images naming conventions.. There is no work required by the shopowner to take advantage of this feature..

In fact a shopowner doesn't have to worry about this at all.. If they upload a main product image named flower.jpg, and three additional images named tulip.jpg, daisy.jpg, and rose.jpg, IH2 would correctly rename all the additional images to the proper naming convention required for them to be recognized as additional images by Zen Cart. So using my example, IH2 would rename tulip.jpg, daisy.jpg, and **rose.jpg **to flower_01.jpg, flower_02.jpg, and flower_03.jpg.

IH2 takes the name of the main product image and then appropriately names the additional product images so that they are linked to the correct product.

The MOST common reason for additional images to not appear on the product when they appear in the IH2 admin has EVERYTHING to do with using mixed image file fomats for the main and additional product images.. You cannot have a main product image be a JPG while the additional product images are another file format (say GIF or PNG for example)

So the way for this to work correctly is that you must make sure that the main product image and all additional images uploaded MUST be the same filetype.. (I do believe this is covered in the IH2 readme documentation..)

and by the way you cannot "fool" IH2 by simply changing the file extension of the additional images.. If the main product image is a JPG, then you must convert any additional images that are not the same format to the correct matching format.

5 Jan 2011, 2:30 AM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

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Thanks for looking at the site but that not the problem at all. The second page should have 4 images,not just the one. Thanks again,but it looks like it will never work correctly.I guess you get what you pay for. $10 for first person to figure out this problem. Paypal waiting.

Well you seem to have fixed it, do you know what the issue was?

Mainly so that anyone else who has a similar prob can see a possible resolution

5 Jan 2011, 5:27 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Hi all,
i've a big problem on a Zencart 1.3.9e where i tried to install the IH2 rev8.

The admin panel works great: i can upload additional images, the options are all there, i can clean the cache, etc.

The problems are all in the front office. It simply isn't there!
Zencart still works like before i installed it.
It doesn't create the various version on the caches, it doesn't create the scripts on the images...

I swear that i've uploaded all the files in the right paths! :frusty::frusty:

I've tried IH on various website, but i never had any problem before this.

Could anyone help me?

5 Jan 2011, 5:45 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Which Rev8 release?? The initial release or one of the a, b, c, d incremental releases???

pjthebest:

Hi all,
i've a big problem on a Zencart 1.3.9e where i tried to install the** IH2 rev8**.

sigh

We need the USUAL compliment of information that we always ask for here..

  • Link to your site (specifically links DIRECTLY to the products which work correctly AND links to the ones that don't -- please don't ask folks to fish through your site looking for the issue)
  • What are your image settings??Providing this when you posts helps cut down on back and forth guess sessions.. Much better if you provide FULL information up front.. Thanks:wink2:

pjthebest:

The admin panel works great: i can upload additional images, the options are all there, i can clean the cache, etc.

The problems are all in the front office. It simply isn't there!
Zencart still works like before i installed it.
It doesn't create the various version on the caches, it doesn't create the scripts on the images...

I swear that i've uploaded all the files in the right paths! :frusty::frusty:

I've tried IH on various website, but i never had any problem before this.

Could anyone help me?

5 Jan 2011, 5:47 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Scott_C:

Thats interesting, ive never used IH2 for additional images, Ive always added the product image and then FTP'd the additional ones. :smile:And though you can do it this way, IH2 doesn't require you to do all that upfront image renaming.. It renames your additional images based on the main product image name for you..

5 Jan 2011, 6:02 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Um...oh, dear...

http://akihabaracosplay.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_2&products_id=1

I installed Image Handler 2 on a 1.3.9 Version of Zen Cart (Brand New Install), made my PNG watermarks, and overwrote (?) the current watermark_LRG.png, watermark_MED.png, and watermark.png, but still no results.

If you look carefully after clicking on the image of the costume, it pops up at the top of my page! Yikes!

What in the world did I do wrong?

http://www.akihabaracosplay.com

Thank you!

5 Jan 2011, 8:22 PM
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Um...oh, dear...

http://akihabaracosplay.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_2&products_id=1

I installed Image Handler 2 on a 1.3.9 Version of Zen Cart (Brand New Install), made my PNG watermarks, and overwrote (?) the current watermark_LRG.png, watermark_MED.png, and watermark.png, but still no results.

If you look carefully after clicking on the image of the costume, it pops up at the top of my page! Yikes!

What in the world did I do wrong?

http://www.akihabaracosplay.com

Thank you!
you seem to be using the classic template, While this probably wont fix your problem you seem to have forgotten to add the image handler css file from the your template folder to the classic folder, have a look and see if there are any other folders/files you might have missed

6 Jan 2011, 1:47 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Hello, I have an issue with IH2. I'm using ZC 1.3.9g and i installed IH2, last version. I have some other addons installed (zen lightbox, email archive manager, blank sideboxes, a forum, admin notes advanced, admin profiles, live chat, login box and other stuff). This is the only one who made me sweat a lot.

Everything worked smooth but all the gifs are looking very bad. The dinamic gifs are static, dont move and have a badly glow surrounding them. The other gifs dont have transparent background despite my (various test) settings (255,255,255).

Here is a link to an example - http://diablomall.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_43 - but i deactivated IH2 simply setting "IH resize images" to NO because was looking so bad and I didn't like it even for few hours to stay there. If someone could help me I can reactivate IH2 for showing.

All I want is to be displayed a description on hover, simply put the mouse - not click- on picture and another picture (with/or description) to be displayed on listing products pages. No bigger pictures, no other stuff, just the description.
I don't want to give up IH2 but if there's another addon which can bring description (even in picture, I can handle) and not to crash the pictures then I'll choose that.

Those are my settings:

Small Image Width 100
Small Image Height 80
Heading Image Width - Admin 57
Heading Image Height - Admin 40
Subcategory Image Width 100
Subcategory Image Height 57
Calculate Image Size true
Image Required true
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1
Image - Shopping Cart Width 50
Image - Shopping Cart Height 40
Category Icon Image Width - Product Info Pages 57
Category Icon Image Height - Product Info Pages 40
Top Subcategory Image Width 150
Top Subcategory Image Height 85
Product Info - Image Width 150
Product Info - Image Height 120
Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG
Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row 3
Image - Product Listing Width 100
Image - Product Listing Height 80
Image - Product New Listing Width 100
Image - Product New Listing Height 80
Image - New Products Width 100
Image - New Products Height 80
Image - Featured Products Width 100
Image - Featured Products Height 80
Image - Product All Listing Width 100
Image - Product All Listing Height 80
Product Image - No Image Status 1
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif
Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1
IH resize images no
IH small image filetype no_change
IH small image background 255:255:255
IH watermark small images no
IH zoom small images yes
IH small image compression quality 100
IH medium image filetype no_change
IH medium image background 255:255:255
IH watermark medium images no Info
IH medium image compression quality 85
IH large image filetype no_change
IH large image background 255:255:255
IH watermark large images no Info
IH large image compression quality 85
IH large image maximum width 750
IH large image maximum height 550
IH watermark gravity Center

Thank you

6 Jan 2011, 5:21 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

The mods are probably not your problem. Nor is IH2.

My vote would go for the Template Monster template doing something to a file that is not normally messed with by Zen or any Mod.

Check your TM template to see if any of the files are common to any of the IH2 files. If so, you will need to VERY carefully merge them to make IH2 work.

Or you could contact TM and see what help you get for your money spent:censored:

On a 12mb connection, your site took 27 seconds to load and the first page has double anchors, open img elements, and empty p tags. Gotta love that TM -- NOT

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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Wallachian:

Hello, I have an issue with IH2.

I have had to always install (re-install) lightbox over the top of IH whenever I had to re-install or upgrade IH (mainly because lightbox needs to overwrite one of the Additional Images files.

There could be other mods that also need need similar treatment after IH is installed.

6 Jan 2011, 5:56 PM
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Re: Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Thank you for response and check. I had an argue with my host who said they put the site on best servers they have. Still, that delay on site navigation has some specific hours to appear which seems strange to me their response that is my fault (template or settings). And has nothing to do with high traffic. Maybe i'll be enough courageous to make a full back up and ask them to reinstall ZC.

The template was free but i made some modifications in it's layout, nothing important, just changing colors, dimensions, logos, pictures etc.

I changed settings from their standard 100 with 80 to 150 with 120 which keep it the proportions but made bigger pictures. This made some (almost all) gifs background become transparent, i guess my pictures are too small. With even bigger settings, around 300 per 200 dinamic gifs starts looking good and moving. Of course, i cannot keep those huge settings, but this can say something to experts of what is wrong there.

I'll start verify if there are common files and compare them if so.