Discount Coupon Guide?!

Ajeh:

Well wasn't that help text misleading ... :blink:

It is better in v1.6.0 language file:

define('COUPON_FREE_SHIP_HELP', 'The coupon gives free shipping on an order.');

No it wasn't.. had me koo koo for Cocopuffs!:laugh:

I'll make the change..

One more question.. I have a client who is on my schedule to upgrade later in Feb.. But she is running v1.5.1 and wants this functionality NOW.. can I safely upload the new coupon files to her v1.5.1 site?? If so can you guide me as to which files I need to upload..

Ajeh:

No, you cannot reactivate a Discount Coupon that has been Deleted/Inactivated ... for that you would have to cheat and hack the database ...Grrrr.. So I guess I'll have to look into how to add this to the front end.. Are there STILL no plans to make this an option?? I spent last night looking at how other open source e-commerce CMS's do this, and it appears that OpenCart and PrestCart support reactivating coupons.. (haven't looked at Magento..) Is there a REASON why this isn't at least a OPTION that the shopowner gets to decide for themselves whether to turn on/off..

If the Store Owner marks the Discount Coupon as Inactive by deleting it, then it is flagged deleted ...

If it just expires, that is not being marked as Deleted, just as not being usable ... if the Store Owner changes the expiration date, then the Discount Coupon is valid ... to this is purely a Store Owner choice to mark the Discount Coupon as Deleted ...

Once the Store Owner marks the Discount Coupon as Deleted, there is NOT an option to Un-delete the Discount Coupon by the Store Owner. This is when the database would need to be hacked ...

Ajeh:

If the Store Owner marks the Discount Coupon as Inactive by deleting it, then it is flagged deleted ...

If it just expires, that is not being marked as Deleted, just as not being usable ... if the Store Owner changes the expiration date, then the Discount Coupon is valid ... to this is purely a Store Owner choice to mark the Discount Coupon as Deleted ...

Once the Store Owner marks the Discount Coupon as Deleted, there is NOT an option to Un-delete the Discount Coupon by the Store Owner. This is when the database would need to be hacked ...

Yes I do understand how this works.. What I am asking is are there plans for future releases to modify this?? For one thing, the "Delete" button label is an example of the action taken not matching the UI label (there are other examples of this in the current codebase as well). Teh coupon is not in fact DELETED but DISABLED/INACTIVATED. Having to hack the DB to reactivate a coupon is an unnecessary set of steps IMHO.

The premise behind the current functionality dates back to the BEGINNING of Zen Cart, (and I believe even back to osCommerce from whence Zen Cart came) The logic behind preventing shopowners form reactivating a coupon seems a tad out of step with other similar systems.. Also the functionality as it sits doesn't give shopowners the FREEDOM to determine their OWN business policies..

The Deleted/Inactive Discount Coupon can be Restored in Zen Cart v1.6.0 ...

Ajeh:

The Deleted/Inactive Discount Coupon can be Restored in Zen Cart v1.6.0 ...

Cool!!! thanks.. Regarding my other question and the v1.5.4 coupon changes..

One more question.. I have a client who is on my schedule to upgrade later in Feb.. But she is running v1.5.1 and wants this functionality NOW.. can I safely upload the new coupon files to her v1.5.1 site?? If so can you guide me as to which files I need to upload..

That code is already in v1.5.4 for the Discount Coupon, test it and see ...

Ajeh:

That code is already in v1.5.4 for the Discount Coupon, test it and see ...

Sure.. My concern is I just want to give her this part now.. her v1.5.4 migration is scheduled for later in Feb.. but okay.. I'll test and see..

Is it possible to allow all categories (top), and deny, say, one category, or will the allow all override the 'deny'?

Also, if I allow a category, will all products in sub-categories of that category be allowed, or do those sub-categories have to be each specifically allowed?

To Deny just one Category, you only have to mark the one Category as Deny, you do not need to mark Top Allow ...

To mark Top Deny and mark 1 Top Category as Allow is to allow all sub-categories in that Top Category as allowed ...

Thanks so much for the clarification. I proceed with confidence.

You are most welcome glad that this helped ... :smile:

Sorry - another question: I have a minimum spend specified, and two categories excluded. In testing, when I buy something from an excluded category, a message appears in the checkout process referring to the need to meet the minimum spend. Should I be expecting a message about not being able to get a discount from the excluded category?

Many issues were fixed in v1.5.4 ... what version are you using?

What is the exact message that you are seeing?

What are the exact settings on the Discount Coupon and the Restrictions?

You could customize the code for the message and use the code in RED:
/includes/modules/order_ttotal/ot_coupon.php

around the line 192:

[B]//[/B]          $messageStack->add_session('redemptions', sprintf(TEXT_INVALID_REDEEM_COUPON_MINIMUM, $currencies->format($coupon_result->fields['coupon_minimum_order'])),'caution');
[B]        $dc_check = $_POST['dc_redeem_code'];
        $dc_link = ' <a href="javascript:couponpopupWindow(\'' . zen_href_link(FILENAME_POPUP_COUPON_HELP, 'cID=' . $coupon_result->fields['coupon_id']) . '\')">' . $dc_check . '</a>';
          $messageStack->add_session('redemptions', sprintf(TEXT_INVALID_REDEEM_COUPON_MINIMUM, $currencies->format($coupon_result->fields['coupon_minimum_order'])) . $dc_link, 'caution');
[/B]

and see if having the popup to explain what the Discount Coupon is about helps ...

You could also change the define in the language file(s) for:
TEXT_INVALID_REDEEM_COUPON_MINIMUM

Using 1.5.1.

There is actually no need for a minimum spend message in the particular situation, so what I need in essence is a message which indicates why someone who has chosen from an excluded category why they haven't got a discount. Are you suggesting I simply hijack the min_spend message in the language file? That would work for me...

If I have an excluded category item and an OK category item in the cart, the order will process. Obviously because it is over min_spend - but there is no warning re: the excluded product. If I have only an excluded category item, the min_spend message is displayed:

'You must spend at least $100.00 to redeem this coupon'

Ah. No, wait, that is all OK. If I complete the order, the discount is not applied to the sale item! So I can just change the TEXT_INVALID_REDEEM_COUPON_MINIMUM. Should be OK. Because if only an excluded product is in the cart and processed, there is no issue because it is over the min_spend, but no discount is applied.

I have a question about coupons ...

I designed a banner where I am advertising a $5 discount only for international users ... This banner is linked to an EZ page where I will advertise the coupon code.
So my question is how can I limit the coupon CODE just to non-US customers?

I want to give a different discount to US clients! So I need to prevent them from trying to redeem this code.

icecold:

I have a question about coupons ...

I designed a banner where I am advertising a $5 discount only for international users ... This banner is linked to an EZ page where I will advertise the coupon code.
So my question is how can I limit the coupon CODE just to non-US customers?

I want to give a different discount to US clients! So I need to prevent them from trying to redeem this code.

Well I am using Zen Cart 1.5.3 and found the answer to this myself ... however I am not sure if I created the restrictions right ...:blink:

What I did was to Top Deny and Allow Product Category and specific product in that order ...

Discount Coupons Product/Category Restrictions
Category Restrictions
Coupon ID Coupon Name Category ID Category Name Allow Deny Remove
2 -1 All Categories Deny Allow Remove
Displaying 1 to 1 (of 1 categories) Page 1 of 1
Category Name Add

Product Restrictions
Coupon ID Coupon Name Product ID Product Name Allow Deny Remove
2 CODEW 147 Armani Code by Giorgio Armani for Women Eau De Parfum Spray 2.5 oz
Category: Women's Perfumes
Manufacturer: Giorgio Armani Allow Allow Remove