Tabbed Products ''LITE'' version - Delimiter based

Few issues I've noticed...

One was that if you created a product but do not use tabs yet globals set on a java error is generated. Once you inset at least one tab, then the java error is gone.

Second, trying to set the borders to use images and cannot seem to get this to work.

example border-top-image:url(../images/bordertop.gif); which is standard css entry and fails to show the image. Yet if I set the border to a pixel def only a border works. I tried to set the border as well to "wave" to see and that fails as well. Dots or solid lines work...So not sure whats up there either or what I'm doing wrong???

Can anyone please tell me how to rearrange the code so as to move the tabs to the top of the product description like found here? I would really appreciate your help.

Set your $bGblMainImageOnTabs = true

it is set to true

Hi bhuntsman,

Where can I see an example of where you are using them? Are you using the "book product type" for your listings?

Also same issue as woody.... "adds Main image to tabs only if you have at least one custom tab" did you set one?

ideasgirl:

Also same issue as woody.... "adds Main image to tabs only if you have at least one custom tab" did you set one?

Ideasgirl-

THis is not my issue. You should not have to set a custom tag for the globals to kick in, EXCEPT if you want the main image to appear on a tab. Please reread my previous posts for clarification. I think we should wait for Q the expert to chime in on these issues. Thanks.

Woody

qhome,

is it possible to use my own image for the tabs with the label already on it? For example, i will have an image with the label Product Details so it won't have to be done automatically by the script.

if this is possible, how do i get it to work? as far as i see it, the labels are generated by the <!--% %--> script. Do i just change this to the destination of the image like what you do with the sideboxes header?

THis is not my issue.
Sorry.

I think we should wait for Q the expert to chime in on these issues.
He's the expert indeed, but I only help when I know what I'm talking about. There aren't issues here, only people asking questions I know the answer. There are 2 options, try it or wait. I'm not giving wrong information.

If you read the script history you will see (your point):
7/17/06 :: fixed and merged Add to cart, Attribute Options, Product details (Stock, Model, etc), and Qty Discounts. Now all on same tab.

but.....then (my point):
7/26/06 :: Moved Product Details under the Price. This seems a good out of the way, yet informative place for this info.

You should not have to set a custom tag for the globals to kick in
Yes, but that's only for hardcode tabs (Add to Cart, Additional Images, Customers Also Purchased, XSell-We Also Recommend) and now they will only appear (doesn't apply to add to cart) if they have something to show.

woodymon:

The comment "// adds Main image to tabs only if you have at least one custom tab" refers only to the need for a custom tab if want to display the "main image" on a tab. It does not state that I need the custom tab to display any other items on the tab.
What other items you are refering to?
EXCEPT if you want the main image to appear on a tab.
So.... we agree on this one right? That means I'm not giving wrong information.

ideasgirl:

If you read the script history you will see (your point):
7/17/06 :: fixed and merged Add to cart, Attribute Options, Product details (Stock, Model, etc), and Qty Discounts. Now all on same tab.

but.....then (my point):
7/26/06 :: Moved Product Details under the Price. This seems a good out of the way, yet informative place for this info.

The above items have no relevance on the issues being discussed now.

ideasgirl:

Yes, but that's only for hardcode tabs.

Where is this documented? That is, why globals will not work for the Main Image and other items, when a custom tag is not added. What is the logic behind this?

ideasgirl:

What other items you are refering to?

Any. That is items that would normally appear on the same tab, e.g. price, attributes, Add To Cart, product details and qty discounts.

ideasgirl:

So.... we agree on this one right?

It's not a matter of "agreeing", it's a mater of understanding. And I don't understand why the globals are not working as they should be.

Again I will wait for Q to clarify. No need to respond further. Thanks.

I originally posted this in the wrong forum category, so I'm now posting it here since this seems to be the appropriate thread for my problem.

I would really appreciate if one of the ZC gurus (or anyone with an answer) could offer a solution to my problem. I'm in the final stages of developing a new site utilizing the future_zen template (modified) + tabbed lite + cross sell + customers also purchased. I finally (after many hours of frustration and fiddling) got the layout to look the way I wanted http://www.learningbydvd.com/newstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=918, but the "We Also Recommend" and "Customers Also Purchased" tabs are blank and they should each show products on this page...it's useless having the tabs if nothing will show up when clicked on.

I'm trying to get my new site "live" by this weekend and could use some assistance if anyone is willing. I'm sure I've over looked something in the code, but I just can't seem to sort it out to get something to show up under those two tabs.

My tpl_product_info_display.php is too large to post here, but I would be happy to e-mail it to anyone willing to look it over and give me some feedback.

Thanks in advance for everyone's time in reading this post.

I don't know if I can help you or not, but I had a similar problem. With the following set:

$bGblCustomersAlsoPurchased = true;
$bGblCrossSell_Tab = true;
I got NEITHER actually showing up on those tabs.

Since I am only using the crosssell contrib, and not needing Customers Also Purchased products, I set:

$bGblCustomersAlsoPurchased = false;

and then my crosssell products showed up on the We Also Recommend tab.

I don't know if this is a tabbed products bug or what, but since I don't need both tabs, what I did worked for me.

Try disabling one, then the other, and see what you get. Let us know what happens.

styledata...I did what you suggested and I now see recommended products (i.e. crossSell), but they are showing up at the bottom of the product info tab page and not at all on the "We Also Recommend" tab page...is there any chance you could post your tpl_product_info_display.php code for the section that deals with your tabs (and in particular your "Recommended Accessories" tab)...thank you for your help thus far...I hope I can get this issue resolved soon, before I go crazy!

bhuntsman:

styledata...I did what you suggested and I now see recommended products (i.e. crossSell), but they are showing up at the bottom of the product info tab page and not at all on the "We Also Recommend" tab page...

It is my experience you have to insert a minimum of one tag in your product description for the "globals" to work (or for instance, to make the x-sell items display in the "We Also Recommend" tab and not below the tabs as you are experincing.

The mod works great but some logic issues remain with default globals and requiring one soft tag (as I reported recently).

I do not understand the reasoning (logic) behind this requirement but suspecting there is some good reason that qhome configured the mod to behave this way ;-)

Woody

here is my config setting. Pay attention also to what woodyman said about setting at least one tag. Could that be it?

$bGblMainImageOnTabs = false;
$bGblAddToCart = false;
$bGblAdditionalImages = false;
$bGblProductDetails = false;
$bGblCustomersAlsoPurchased = false;
$bGblCrossSell_Tab = true;

styledata...I did what you suggested and I now see recommended products (i.e. crossSell), but they are showing up at the bottom of the product info tab page and not at all on the "We Also Recommend" tab page...is there any chance you could post your tpl_product_info_display.php code for the section that deals with your tabs

//############    GLOBALS   ##############
$bGblMainImageOnTabs = false;
$bGblAddToCart = true;
$bGblAdditionalImages =  true;
$bGblCustomersAlsoPurchased = true;

$bCrossSell_Exists =  true;
$bGblCrossSell_Tab =  true;
//########################################

In case you have the last version these are the settings to allow the "We Also Recomment" on a tab.

It is my experience you have to insert a minimum of one tag in your product description for the "globals" to work (or for instance, to make the x-sell items display in the "We Also Recommend" tab and not below the tabs as you are experincing.
In my experience this is only need for the image setting. They all will appear automatically if you have any thing to show. For example, the tab for additional images will appear only if you have additional images to show. If you set bGlCrossSell_Tab = false, indicates you have cross sell but don't want the tab (as your previous post).

Also... be sure you have the latest version for these settings.

Also remember that "XSell" is not the same that "Also Purchased", the 1st is based on YOUR recommendations as the store owner, and the 2nd. one is based on purchase behavior of your customers.

Have fun!

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions...unfortunately, none have solved my problem...I guess I just won't have the tabs on my site...I've lost 3 days of valuable time trying to solve this very frustrating problem and to no avail...arrrrrrg!!! I really need to get my site live. I really, really liked the look of the layout the way I had it...but, I can't have tabs if when clicked there's nothing.

styledata:

here is my config setting. Pay attention also to what woodyman said about setting at least one tag. Could that be it?

$bGblMainImageOnTabs = false;
$bGblAddToCart = false;
$bGblAdditionalImages = false;
$bGblProductDetails = false;
$bGblCustomersAlsoPurchased = false;
$bGblCrossSell_Tab = true;

Which version of Tabbed Products Lite do you have installed?

If latest version you should see:

• @version $Id: tpl_product_info_display.php 3435 2006-04-14 03:42:46Z ajeh $
• TABBED PRODUCTS LITE MODIFICATIONS - QHOME - 7/26/2006
  */
  //require(DIR_WS_MODULES . '/debug_blocks/product_info_prices.php');

//-=-=-=- BOF: Tabbed Products Config -=-=-=-

//############ GLOBALS ##############
$bGblMainImageOnTabs = true; // adds Main image to tabs only if you have at least one custom tab
$bGblAddToCart = true; // adds Add to Cart, Product Details, Attribute Options, and Qty Discount to a tab
$bGblAdditionalImages = true; // adds Additional Images on its own tab
$bGblCustomersAlsoPurchased = true; // adds Customers Also Purchased as its own tab
//########### CROSS-SELL ############
//=-=-= IMPORTANT!!!! IF YOU DON'T HAVE CROSS SELL CONTRIB, DON'T ENABLE THIS OR YOU WILL GET ERRORS!!!! =-=-=
$bCrossSell_Exists = true; // if you have cross sell contrib installed, this enables the code to check for it.
$bGblCrossSell_Tab = true; // adds Cross Sell as its own tab only if the above is true.
//############ HEADERS ##############
$bShowHeaders = true; // Turns the headers underneath each tab on. Headers bear the tab name for a nice look.
$bShowHeadersNoJavascript = true; // If javascript is disabled, do you want to show headers to help separate the sections
//########### TAB NAMES #############
$addtocart_tab_name = 'Add to Cart'; // if using this tab, set the tab title for the Add To Cart Tab
$add_images_tab_name = 'Additional Images'; // if using this tab, set the tab title for the Additional Images Tab
$cust_also_purchased_tab_name = 'Customers Also Purchased'; // if using this tab, set the tab title for the Cust Also Purchased Tab
$cross_sell_tab_name = 'We Also Recommend'; // if using this tab, set the tab title for the CrossSell Tab
//########################################
So in your tpl_product_info_display.php you should have:
$bCrossSell_Exists = true;
$bGblCrossSell_Tab = true;

Once the above is set insert a soft tag into your product description and see what happens to see to your "We Also Recommend" (xsell) tab.

Of course you need to have products assigned to that product within xsell admin for any to show up, on the tabs or below the tabs ;-)

Finally, after 3 long days of frustration, hair pulling, etc., my site's product page layout not only looks the way I want it to, but all the tabs also work. Here's an example page http://www.learningbydvd.com/newstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=918. I would appreciate any comments, feedback or criticism.

And to everyone who contributed their thoughts and suggestions, I give you my thanks. Take care everyone. Long live ZenCart!!!

bhuntsman:

Finally, after 3 long days of frustration, hair pulling, etc., my site's product page layout not only looks the way I want it to, but all the tabs also work. Here's an example page http://www.learningbydvd.com/newstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=918. I would appreciate any comments, feedback or criticism.

And to everyone who contributed their thoughts and suggestions, I give you my thanks. Take care everyone. Long live ZenCart!!!

Congratulations! Looking good. Very cool header.

BTW could you post your implemented solution(s) so others here could learn from your trials?

Some observations:

The Add to Cart box appears both above and below tabs.

Also the title cap for x-sell tab shows the title text wrapping to second line off of the bar. When implementing the Future Zen template with Tabbed Products Lite mod you need to ensure that your title heading defines are short (or the heading font size reduced) so they won't wrap within the tab containers. Otherwise you may want to consider disabling those titles from displaying by setting $bShowHeaders = false

Unrelated to the Tabs mod implementation... you may want to widen the left column (or reduce font size) so fewer category names wrap. Otherwise makes for a very long left sidebox column. Also some of the sideboxes can be turned off for the product_info pages, already have buttons for reviews and tell-a-friend. And not sure if you really need the Sponsors or Have You Seen sideboxes.

Overall a nice looking site.

Woody

Woody,

Thanks for your feedback...especially appreciate the compliment on the header and overall look of the site. To address some of your points:

I will post my implementation comments...it's getting late and I've had very little sleep in the past 3 days...so I will post that in the next day or so.

As for the Add to Cart box appearing both above and below tabs...I did that intentionally since many of our product descriptions are rather lengthy and I wanted my customers to have the option of adding the product to their cart at both the top and bottom of the page (minimizing the need to scroll one way or the other to add to their cart).

The title cap for x-sell tab shows the title text wrapping to second line...again, this was intentional and was achieved by placing a <br /> in the titles. I personally like the look of the taller 2-line tab and I'm also forward planning towards the possibility of having 4 to 6 tabs and being taller and narrower will allow them to fit better.

I eventually plan to widen the left and right columns as well as make the entire page more "adjustable" depending upon browser window size, but for now I simply took your advice to make the font slightly smaller. My concern at the moment is to get a much better looking site up and running to replace my existing (and what I consider very amateurish site - my first attempt at ZC using v1.2.4). I believe I'm losing sales as a result of my present site's poor visual appeal. As for your comments regarding turning off some of the sideboxes...already plan to do that...those will be some of the finishing touches prior to switching the new design to the root directory...also need to finish the news ticker at the top, text for a few of the info pages and home page, etc.