Attributes HOW-TO

i have a question about this as i am working on a site that will be nothing but downloads, i have the downloads thing taken care of but it gives me a radio button by the words zip format and i have already added a zip icon along with the words download...is there a way to get rid of that radio button altogether? since there isnt any other choice but to chose a zip format download?

oh i hope this makes sense

Nope, at the moment you need the radio button but you do need to mark it as the default choice.

Hi, im having problems to understand the options of the price attribute:

• one time
• price factor / offset
• One Time Factor / Offset

Can anyone explain what can be done with each one or point me to where it has been explained.

I dont know if that options can help me do what im needing:

• make a one time price and a plus price after a thousand, example:
  one time: $340 (1-1000)
  plus after a thousand: +$40 (1001-2000 and another +40 after another thousand)

• some of my products works in a module basis, for example, i have bussiness card and postals, the postals are 4 module sof bussiness card, but always the minimal qty is of 1000 (and there are qty discounts), so i want to have an attribute that have something like:
  bussiness card (1 module, qty x1)
  invitation (2 modules, qty x2)
  postal card (4 modules, qty x4)
  so for example when i select postal x1000, the price is like the bussiness card x4000. And when i select postal x2000 the price is like bussiness card x 8000. ;)

Thanks in advance,
LP

The one time prices are used for the purchase of the product, not based on qty

So if set to $20, whether there is 1 or 1000 purchased this will add $20

The attributes_qty_prices will allow you to set a price based on the QTY that is purchased.

This will adjust based on how many are bought.

Ok, but there is a way that the price is added each X units?, so i dont have to divide he $40 of the example by 1000.... tht is not offset factor?

Price factor is a percentage of the products price but does not take into account the discount you are trying to impose on the qty.

mmmm... the same happens with normal attributes?.... so if i have qty pricing and i want an attribute that add a plus to the individual price taking the qty discount too... is that possible or im ::frust

Normal Attributes are qty * attribute price

When you want special things like one time prices that is 1 price added without regard to qty

attribute qty discounts are based on how many are ordered * the price in the attribute qty discount field based on the scale you put in there.

ok, i get the idea... thankz Ajeh ::tup

Ok... im back ;) , another things in the attribute controler i dont understand:

• Attributes Qty Price Discount:
• Onetime Attributes Qty Price Discount:
  can this be used like the qty discount of the base price of the producto to a especific attribute? so i can make a attribute like this:
  x 1000 $0,15
  x 2000 $0,11
  etc etc....
  if that is possible whats the syntax?.

Thanks... AGAIN,
LP

Yes it can.

Go load a demo version of Zen Cart v1.2.5 ... into a demo database ...

Check the New v1.2 Category and the Attributes ...

There are numerous examples on the demo data that shows what you can do with Attributes.

It would really help you if you had a working example to play with ... :)

i found it!, looking in my old installation with the example products:

3:10.00,6:9.00,9:8.00,12:7.00,15:6.00

i will take a look there for other things... i thinks is all there... i only have to search.

Sorry for asking before time,
LP

Hi, everyone

I was playing around with attribute prices and price factors, and they seem to just add together.

For example, let's say we want to sell water by the gallon, for 1 dollar a gallon.

I made a product water, put an attribute "water by gallon", and for 1 gallon I would put attribute price 1, price factor 1, for 2 gallons attribute price 1, price factor 2.

This makes the price for 1 gallon 2 dollars, for 2 gallons 3 dollars.
Yes I know I can put the offset to 1 which will subtract it from the price etc. The question is why go to these contortions, it would be much easier to put the attribute price to what you want from the beginning. Am I missing something essential here?

Strangely, if you put price 0, the total price is 0, regardless of factors. If you put attribute price less than 1, 0.5 let's say, it seems to propagate to the other adjacent attribute values. This must be a bug.

Confusedly yours :rolleyes:

Teo

Let's say your Product Price is $10.00

You set the Attribute Price Factor to 1 the attribute is now $10 + $10

Set to 2 the Attribute price is now $20 so the total price is $10 + $20

Set to 3 the Attribute price is now $30 so the total price is $10 + $30 = $40

Set the Attributes Price Factor to .90 ... $9.00 ... so the total price is $19.00

The offset is to subtract the product price based on the same formula

Together you can have:

Products Price is $10 = $10
Attributes Price Factor is 1 = 1 x $10
Attributes Price Factor Offset is 1 = - 1 x $10

Together = $10

Products Price is $10 = $10
Attributes Price Factor is 2 = 2 x $20
Attributes Price Factor Offset is 1 = - 1 x $10

Together = $20

There are uses for this such as creating a display that looks like you are setting a qty price on the attribute

Product Price is $10
How Many
Qty 1 Attribute Price Factor 1 Offset is 1 = $10
Qty 2 Attribute Price Factor 2 Offset is 1 = $20
Qty 3 Attribute Price Factor 3 Offset is 1 = $30
Qty 4 Attribute Price Factor 4 Offset is 1 = $40

Or use this as a percentage calculation

Advantage ... Change Price to $20 and all attributes update accordingly

Note: attribute price factor can be used in combination with Attribute Price

Product Price is $10
Attribute Price is $5
Attribute Price Factor is 2

$10 + $5 + 2 x $10
Total = $35

Change price to $20 and price adjusts accordingly on attribute

Thank you very much yet again, Linda. Sorry for doubting the software: My ignorance plus the bad choice of values to play with led me to wrong conclusions.

You are of course very correct in what you described, and I stand corrected.

I played with it and it works as advertised :)

I hope your explanation helps others on the forum as well, I could not find anything as coherent as this when I looked around.

All the best

Teo

The attribtues have a lot of features that until explored are hard to comprehend their worth.

Sometimes you just have to see it in action and then you find there are even more ways of using them.

I had never used the one time charge where it charged an amount up to a certain qty then stopped ...

I knew it could be done, but had never had a practical application for it.

The attribute pricing has endless combos.

Making them work for you is the trick.

Note: none of those were Price by Attribute setups that I showed you.

That is often misused as well.

Thanks for letting us know that this solution worked for you :)

Ajeh:

Check and see if the download problem is related to size of the file or happens on small files too.

There isn't anything built into Zen Cart at this time for downloads outside the checkout process ... but you could always write something for that.
Hi Linda

I'm having the same problem with small files as well, any idea's?

Many thanks
drmphotos

Let's define "the same problem"

1 files are loaded into the /download directory

2 /pub is set to 777

3 if in windows Redirect is OFF

4 if in unix Redirect is ON

5 The Option Name for the download is set to Radio Button or Dropdown

6 When you add the download to the Attribute you see the green dot

7 The filename does not contain special characters or spaces and preferrably is a zip

8 you have the download in the /download direct and not in a subdirectory

What error are you receiving?

Can the attribute be added to the shopping cart?

Can you checkout?

Does it say the download is available or unavailable?

Do you have a link to start the download?

Here's one a little different from any others I've seen discussed in this topic:

I am working with a company that sells parts for trampolines. In order to get the proper measurements for replacement trampoline mats, they have the customer measure between the spring holes across the trampoline frame. The customer then enters the value in a cell. This is done four times. Then the total number of spring holes is entered in another cell. Finally, the length of the springs used on the trampoline is entered in another cell. They want these measurements (six cells total) to show up on the order form.

Is Atrributes the best way to accomplish this or is there a better way? I have attempted a few different things myself (in Attributes) but have thus far had no luck.

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.