1 attribute for download and 1 for ship to customer

I'm using ZenCart version 1.3.7.

I was wondering if it is possible to, and how to, lets say for example:

• you've got a Painting for sell, that is a physical object that can't be downloaded

• Of this painting there is made a poster, and these posters can be downloaded as image-files that you can print at home. However these posters have another price, much cheaper than the original painting. Of these poster you could get different sizes, with their own prices.

Now how to set this up?

hrm:

I'm sorry about my post, I just noticed that you have posted that you're using 1.3. I'm going to be trying it in the next couple of weeks, but don't have any experience yet.

Sorry. (I must be blind)

Heather

I'd be interested in your method, could you please explain how you did this?

Ajeh:

I have something that appears to work with all these moofy combos with price and item etc.

As it is made up of a lot of peices and parts ... you will have to test it for your specific needs with the next release ... coming soon to a computer near you ... :cool:

Has this ZenCart version been released yet? If, yes, are there any instructions on how to set this up?

The Combo is on the settings in Zen Cart v1.3.7 when adding/editing products ...

Ajeh:

The Combo is on the settings in Zen Cart v1.3.7 when adding/editing products ...

Thank you for the reply. :cool:
If I understood you correctly this kind of products/setting get the name Combo in ZenCart (I guess it stands for "combination products").

So when I choose combo I will get some additional fields in the edit window for the product itself, or must I do something within attributes. Is there by any chance any instructions-guide on how to set this up, as the attributes-thingy can be a bit tricky sometimes, like for example with downloads.

No ... what the setting:

Special, Product/Download Combo Requires a Shipping Address

does is allow a Product that sends a product snail mail to the customer and a download at the same time ... to work with shipping ...

Downloads do not, by default, have shipping ...

Some products will be both a physical product and a download at the same time ...

To manage this correctly, there is a special setting for Download/Physical products when defining if they are:

Always Free Shipping:
Yes, Always Free Shipping
No, Normal Shipping Rules
Special, Product/Download Combo Requires a Shipping Address

Ajeh:

No ... what the setting:

does is allow a Product that sends a product snail mail to the customer and a download at the same time ... to work with shipping ...

Downloads do not, by default, have shipping ...

Some products will be both a physical product and a download at the same time ...

To manage this correctly, there is a special setting for Download/Physical products when defining if they are:

Always Free Shipping:
Yes, Always Free Shipping
No, Normal Shipping Rules
Special, Product/Download Combo Requires a Shipping Address

Thanks a bunch, this looks great! ;-)

Ajeh:

No ... what the setting:

does is allow a Product that sends a product snail mail to the customer and a download at the same time ... to work with shipping ...

Downloads do not, by default, have shipping ...

Some products will be both a physical product and a download at the same time ...

To manage this correctly, there is a special setting for Download/Physical products when defining if they are:

Always Free Shipping:
Yes, Always Free Shipping
No, Normal Shipping Rules
Special, Product/Download Combo Requires a Shipping Address

Does the setting on the following matter (does the position of the radio affect the combo setting right below)?
Product is Virtual: Yes, Skip Shipping Address No, Shipping Address Required

When the physical product in question can be purchased at different prices/settings (these are allready set up with attributes (radio buttons)), is there a special guideline that has to be followed when also adding a download?

If a product is combined physical and download, one have to set up attributes in a special way, for the whole thing to work?

For example lets say you sell a poster.
This poster can be purchased either like a download, or as a physical product that is sent to the customer by post (needs shipping adress, so when the physical is chosen during purchase shipping adress is required, if download is chosen, no shipping adress is required).
The physical product is a poster and can be purchased in different sizes. Each size has its own unique price.
What's important here is that when physical product is chosen, download is deselected, and the other way around (if the customer wants he/she could maybe even choose both if he/she likes to do so).

So my question is, how do I set the attributes up for this to work as desired?
Will all the attributes be radio buttons?
Do both virtual and physical reside in the same "radio button menu", or do each reside in their own "radio button menu" (in case the 2 can't be in the same "menu", it needs to be possible for the customer to deselect download or physical).:blink:

Any pointer would be greatly appreciated! :D

In short words, to make a long story short, the question would be:

How to make "combined download and physical", of products that allready have been configured with "physical related attributes" (radio buttons, each "radio button choice" with it's own price)? So it would be like: what to take care of when adding downloads to products that allready have attributes?

Have you an URL to this Product that we can peek at so we are both on the same page? :smile:

Ajeh:

Have you an URL to this Product that we can peek at so we are both on the same page? :smile:

Yeah sure, I tried to create an example that should be as easy as possible to understand:

http://rumblingrambla.com/4tests/ecommerce/zc137tsts/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65&products_id=180

I would do this as either a download OR physical product
Set price by attribute
base price is 0
product not virtual
Special, Product/Download Combo Requires a Shipping Address not selected
Remember to set a weight for the physical product

In the attributes controller select the attribute for the download version clear the + symbol for price and set the 5.00 for price in weight set - and weight equal to the physical product weight (this math comes out to a zero weight which triggers the download)and add the filename of the download.
Then choose the attributes for physical product and clear the + symbol and set the price in the price block, clear both weight blocks.

Setting it up this way the download will work correctly (0 weight and no shipping) and be priced correctly, and the physical products will also be priced correctly and have their weight set by the weight you entered when setting up the product.

The +(-) weight, +(-)price is best used when one wants to use attributes to adjust a base price of a product based on additions/subractions fromthe product using attributes.

Did any of this make any sense? I hope so.......

barco57:

Special, Product/Download Combo Requires a Shipping Address not selected

Thanks or the prompt reply:clap:
I think I understood your description perfectly, and it does make sense as you say:D , but if download is selected, will it automatically NOT ask for shipping adress (does it automatically detect that the chosen "variant" of the product is a download from the atttributes)?:shocking:

Yes if all they have in their cart is one download or many downloads (as long there all downloads) it will skip the shipping. If the cart is mixed downloads and physical product then it will still ask for shipping but the math for shipping should add anyhting to the shipping for the download items.....if all is set up correctly.....

barco57:

Yes if all they have in their cart is one download or many downloads (as long there all downloads) it will skip the shipping. If the cart is mixed downloads and physical product then it will still ask for shipping but the math for shipping should add anyhting to the shipping for the download items.....if all is set up correctly.....

Thanks Ill definitely get this tested! :clap:

BTW Ajeh do you have any comments regarding this? Something I must remember
that Barco didnt mention?:lookaroun

If you have your products setup correctly ... the shipping should work correctly with an order of all downloads or a mixed order where no shipping is charged for the downloads ...

yeah thats what I meant was "should not add anything"......
sometimes I type faster than my brain can keep up

Yeah I got it working as desired, thanks for your excellent how-to. :clap:

I'm wondering if it is possible to have a quantity box within the product page, lets say for example that I want 30 units of that particular poster at size x, and 20 at size y. Is this possible to set up?

crosswraith:

Yeah I got it working as desired, thanks for your excellent how-to. :clap:

I'm wondering if it is possible to have a quantity box within the product page, lets say for example that I want 30 units of that particular poster at size x, and 20 at size y. Is this possible to set up?

Ok I found 1 thread that talks about the "Quantity box for every attribute", but this thread refers to another thread and doesn't link to it.:frusty: Does someone have a link to it? :blush:
See this thread to see what Im talking about: http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39398

Hi there,

I'm trying to follow your instructions but am a newbie and quite confused about the attributes and how to set them up. Please excuse my inability to follow the instructions.

I have the same situation with the cart I'm setting up. I did my attribute in a download select menu. Should I only use radio? The download file is the base price and the shipped version has an additional charge plus shipping. However, if you select the download it still shows all the shipping options, and if you select the ship by mail version, it shows the free shipping when you get to the check out page...ARG!!! what am I doing wrong? Do I also not have my shipping set up correctly? I'm going to double check the product options and try adjusting the weight as u suggested, but I still have had no luck.

I'd like to have the download version with no additional charges or shipping, and the mail option then to only show shipping and not show the free shipping option, or should I turn free shipping off all together? I'm using the FedEx modules, for Fedex, which are already set up. I'm also using 3.7 version of Zen. I'd appreciate any help or advise. I've been pulling my hair out on this one for over a week, and just found this thread. :-)

Thanks so much,
Kinget
:frusty:

barco57:

I would do this as either a download OR physical product
Set price by attribute
base price is 0
product not virtual
Special, Product/Download Combo Requires a Shipping Address not selected
Remember to set a weight for the physical product

In the attributes controller select the attribute for the download version clear the + symbol for price and set the 5.00 for price in weight set - and weight equal to the physical product weight (this math comes out to a zero weight which triggers the download)and add the filename of the download.
Then choose the attributes for physical product and clear the + symbol and set the price in the price block, clear both weight blocks.

Setting it up this way the download will work correctly (0 weight and no shipping) and be priced correctly, and the physical products will also be priced correctly and have their weight set by the weight you entered when setting up the product.

The +(-) weight, +(-)price is best used when one wants to use attributes to adjust a base price of a product based on additions/subractions fromthe product using attributes.

Did any of this make any sense? I hope so.......