Zen Lightbox addon [Support Thread]

i give up.... :(

athena:

i give up.... :(

I know you're not happy with the responses you've recieved, but there's a REASON why none of us are really jumping at the chance to help implement what is in fact an OUTDATED, and INSECURE method of securing your images.. Sorry..:smile: There ARE better ways of REALLY securing your images, and watermarking is really still considered a good way to protect website images.

Now I think ScriptJunkie's post on the IH2 thread says a LOT as she too is a DIYer for her own website and she hits the nail on the head:

ScriptJunkie:

Can I just add to that sentiment? Websites that use a no right click script are, IMHO, just lame and they communicate a message of "website homemade by paranoid person".

While it's not paranoid to want to protect yourself from theft, it does look paranoid to use "beginner tools" to do it. People who are serious about loss prevention use the appropriate modern tools to manage their inventories and property.

I agree that watermarking is the way to go. If your biggest concern is that you want a copyright notice shown to visitors, then use the copyright notice as the watermark.

Also, it's just not that easy (unless you know how and most image thieves do not) to get images out of light boxes. The fact that they look cool is only one of the reasons people started using them - the other was to protect their images.

So using a light box WITH a right click script is just overkill.

Lastly, if you've installed IH2 and can't get the watermarks to work, you've done something wrong and need to READ the README and then either adjust your settings or your images or reinstall - not revert back to outdated tools created for amateur site builders.

One last thing I found that might be of interest on this topic..

However, as powerful as those methods are, they can only address some of the ways to circumvent Lightbox. The only real way to secure Lightbox, or any gallery for that matter, is to ensure that the full image is never downloaded to the user’s computer by watermarking them before they are sent out, either on your machine or on your server.
...when it comes to image protection, Webmasters often times misplace their trust into techniques and methods that were never designed to stop theft. In a desperate attempt to abate very real and very reasonable worries about theft and plagiarism, some will turn to anything that even gives the vague appearance of offering protection.

Sadly, this kind of misguided trust is more dangerous than having no protection at all. If one is vulnerable and they know they are at risk, they can take precautions and seek out real methods to address the problem. If they put their faith in false protection, they do nothing but remain just as vulnerable.

One last thing I found that might be of interest on this topic..

However, as powerful as those methods are, they can only address some of the ways to circumvent Lightbox. The only real way to secure Lightbox, or any gallery for that matter, is to ensure that the full image is never downloaded to the user’s computer by watermarking them before they are sent out, either on your machine or on your server.

...when it comes to image protection, Webmasters often times misplace their trust into techniques and methods that were never designed to stop theft. In a desperate attempt to abate very real and very reasonable worries about theft and plagiarism, some will turn to anything that even gives the vague appearance of offering protection.

Sadly, this kind of misguided trust is more dangerous than having no protection at all. If one is vulnerable and they know they are at risk, they can take precautions and seek out real methods to address the problem. If they put their faith in false protection, they do nothing but remain just as vulnerable.

Yep! Sad but true!

One last thing.. Your beloved right click script doesn't stop me from right clicking on your images on a Mac (Safari and Firefox), or In Firefox, Chrome or Safari on Windows machines..

These scripts can only provide you with a FALSE sense of security..

Now with that.. I'm gonna stop hijacking this thread..

(my apologies to all..:smile:)

DivaVocals:

athena:

i give up.... :(
I know you're not happy with the responses you've recieved, but there's a REASON why none of us are really jumping at the chance to help implement what is in fact an OUTDATED, and INSECURE method of securing your images.. Sorry..:smile: There ARE better ways of REALLY securing your images, and watermarking is really still considered a good way to protect website images.

Now I think ScriptJunkie's post on the IH2 thread says a LOT as she too is a DIYer for her own website and she hits the nail on the head:

One last thing I found that might be of interest on this topic..

i asked a simple question that has been asked here before. how to get lighbox to call a jscript file. why i want to do that isn't the issue. I have learned a lot. thanks...but i have my reasons and no more time to repeat and explain ad nausea.

Daniel, thanks for this -- yes I'm interested. Can you explain or pm me? using just one image per product for the most part.

Now for ZLB, do you plan to use additional images on your site, or just the one main image?
If you DO NOT plan to use additional images I have a simple hack you can make to the slimbox code that will prevent the right click menu that does pop up from showing a save image as option.

someone asked about my layout...i used the css for lightbox to call an image instead of the black and i disabled the pop up as we deal in small parts and it gets a little overwhelming to see a lot going on on the page.

Awesome!!! Hope it all works out..:smile:

athena:

i asked a simple question that has been asked here before. how to get lighbox to call a jscript file. why i want to do that isn't the issue. I have learned a lot. thanks...but i have my reasons and no more time to repeat and explain ad nausea.

DivaVocals:

One last thing.. Your beloved right click script doesn't stop me from right clicking on your images on a Mac (Safari and Firefox), or In Firefox, Chrome or Safari on Windows machines..

These scripts can only provide you with a FALSE sense of security..

Now with that.. I'm gonna stop hijacking this thread..

(my apologies to all..:smile:)

well athema, I just went to your page. the lightbox shows up with a lightgreen background so you have adjusted the color, the watermark from the IH2 mod is showing and when I rightclik the image it does sport the wording that Images are copyrighted do not copy...but

when I click the X to close the little window it brings up the rightclick menu...not much in fending off the thiefs...

same goes for the larger image in the product page and afterwards in the lightboxed image.

that never stopped anyone from taking what they want to take but with the watermark it is helping since they download a copy and the image is plastered there as well...

I would just get rid of the little box that says to not steal the images...since it gives them the menu anyway

then just post to the store that images are copyrighted to please not help themselves.

maybe even changing the water mark to have your store name or logo would make it even more "territorial" for lack of a better word---it escapes me old brain at the moment..

and yes on my mac it did nothing at all but let me grab the image.

Yep.. this was my result as well as I previously posted.. (tested both Mac and PC in multiple browsers)

DarkAngel:

and when I rightclik the image it does sport the wording that Images are copyrighted do not copy...but

when I click the X to close the little window it brings up the rightclick menu...not much in fending off the thiefs...

same goes for the larger image in the product page and afterwards in the lightboxed image.

athena:

Daniel, thanks for this -- yes I'm interested. Can you explain or pm me? using just one image per product for the most part.

OK, note that this is a hack and it could cause problems elsewhere that I am not aware of so PLEASE note these changes so you can easily put it back to its proper working order if/when needed.

First, you'll need to open [includes/classes/zen_lightbox/slimbox.php] in a text editor.
scroll down towards the bottom and look for this BURIED in the code

w([I,d,g,G]).hide()
``` you can use the find feature of your text editor if needed.
now you want to modify the part the in the square brackets and DELETE **I,d,** so that it reads ```php
w([g,G]).hide()

Second on your FTP server navigate to [images/zen_lightbox] and rename the files nextlabel.gif & prevlabel.gif you can just add a dash or something to the end of the name prevlabel-.gif
Third navigate to [includes/templates/your-template/images] and repeat the same process of renaming the images.

what this is doing.
the lightboxes have built in functionality that will overlay a transparent div over the images when it needs to navigate to the previous and next images. by default they are hidden with that function: hide() but we are telling those 2 divs to NOT be hidden. So now when you right click on it you're really right clicking on a transparent div and not the actual image thats underneath it.
The file renaming is needed as to not confuse your visitor into thinking there should be more images when there are not.

hope this is enough to get you by.

daniel

niestudio:

Please update to ZLB 1.6 and this issue should be resolved

daniel

That worked perfectly. Thank you for the help!

niestudio:

Please update to ZLB 1.6 and this issue should be resolved

daniel
Hi, I've the same issue.
I've upgrade to ZLB 1.6, I've patially resolved the issue.
The images next, prev and close not appears! :wacko:

viper75:

Hi, I've the same issue.
I've upgrade to ZLB 1.6, I've patially resolved the issue.
The images next, prev and close not appears! :wacko:

Please post a link to your site.

viper75:

Hi, I've the same issue.
I've upgrade to ZLB 1.6, I've patially resolved the issue.
The images next, prev and close not appears! :wacko:

Correction:

Hi, I've the same issue.
I've upgrade to ZLB 1.6, I've partially resolved the issue.
The images next, prev buttons appears but the close button not appears! :wacko:
And the rollover effect is white :(

niestudio:

Please post a link to your site.
You can give me your ip? I've the site in maintenance

viper75:

You can give me your ip? I've the site in maintenance

Ip? Can you send via PM?

niestudio:

Ip? Can you send via PM?

sorry for my request! It's inappropriate :(

I removed temporarily the maintenance for you
this is my site
https://www.animal-store.it

viper75:

sorry for my request! It's inappropriate :(

I removed temporarily the maintenance for you
this is my site
https://www.animal-store.it

it all seems to be functioning properly, check to see if all of the images got uploaded properly.

niestudio:

it all seems to be functioning properly, check to see if all of the images got uploaded properly.

I re-upload all files and works! thank's!

Anyone noticed the Firefox 4.0 stops this working? I've upgraded to Firefox 4.0 and it's caused quite a few problems, but mainly, Zen Lightbox doesn't show any longer... try enlarging a product image on any of the sites in my signautre, using Firefox 4.0 and you'll see what I mean. Is there a solution to this do you know?