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10 Apr 2008, 1:31 AM
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Better Together Contribution Support Thread

You can't do the category operation you asked about with Better Together. Only parent categories are supported by default.

There is a FAQ section of the help page that explains this and many other common problems:
http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zencart_better_together.html#faq

There is not support for five for one either; only two for one.

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10 Apr 2008, 1:36 AM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

Ah, ok.

So even if I tried:

Cat 1
-- sub cat 1a
-- subsub cat 1b
-- products

Cat 2
-- sub cat 2a
-- subcat 2b
-- subcat 2c
-- products

I want to specify -

Cat 1 - buy 2 get 3rd half price
I tried $this->add_cat_to_cat(1, 1, "%", 100);

or

Cat 2 - Buy 5 get 1 free
$this->add_fiveforone_cat(2);

These wouldn't work either (which is actually better for me)?

Thanks for your fast response.

10 Apr 2008, 10:11 AM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

See previous response. There is no five for one support in better together, and "category" means parent category. Other options exist (see your PM), but you cannot do either of these things with the stock better together. Category behavior in my mods is explained in this page:

http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zencart_category_issues.html

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10 Apr 2008, 10:53 AM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

I got your PM thanks.
Looking into purchasing.

3 Jun 2008, 4:45 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

Hello
Is there a way to change the language of the text :
I want that "choisissez un produit..... recevez un produit...." appears, instead of "buy an item.... get an item...."
What must I change for it ?
Many thanks

3 Jun 2008, 4:53 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

Other thing : I install Ajax Image Swapper before installing better together... and now, in the product description, I don't have the displaying of image like image swapper does... Is it normal ?

3 Jun 2008, 5:16 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

liliebrode:

Hello
Is there a way to change the language of the text :
I want that "choisissez un produit..... recevez un produit...." appears, instead of "buy an item.... get an item...."
What must I change for it ?
Many thanks

Look at the language files and make the adjustments there. You will need to create includes/languages/french/ ... (you probably already have).

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7 Jun 2008, 3:29 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

What's next for Better Together?

  • add_cat_to_prod() will be added in the next version.

  • The semantics of "category" will be changed so you can use a top level category or a category with subcategories instead of just one with products underneath it. (This is how it works in Big Chooser and Big Spender.) This will affect add_prod_to_cat, add_twoforone_cat, and add_cat_to_cat (as well as add_cat_to_prod, if that is available at the time).

I don't know if these will be released together or one at a time. If you are using other related software (Promotional Pages, Discount Preview, Checkout Candy, Better Together Admin), you may need to upgrade; you will be advised at that time what to do, and everything will be available at once so upgrading won't break your site.

Look for these changes in the third quarter of this year.

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19 Jun 2008, 7:49 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

I was looking at the various discounting add-ons available on your site. In the Big Chooser page, it says:

See it Live: Go to product 5 in my test cart you will see the upsell message that if you buy this product (BladeRunner) or Beloved, you get $100 off a graphics card (such as this one.)

It appears this is no longer configured in the way you describe, nor does it show on the Promotional page.

I didn't see a thread for Big Chooser, here, so I am mentioning this here. Thanks.

19 Jun 2008, 8:06 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

Thanks for the report; I fiddle with these things periodically and sometimes they get out of sync.

There isn't a support thread for Big Chooser; I support it by email. Please email me any further questions.

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20 Jun 2008, 6:44 AM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

Great mod Scott.
However I couldn't get better promo to work correctly no matter what have I tried. Please look at the following link, it seems it stops half way.

http://www.boldersounds.net/index.php?main_page=bettertogether_promo

Perhaps it didn't create for downloadable music product?
Thanks in advance.

Chih How

20 Jun 2008, 7:33 AM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

By the way, I also discovered that the xxx link of "Buy this item, get a xxx at 50% off" points to "product_info" instead "product_music_info", how can I correct it?

Chih How

20 Jun 2008, 9:48 AM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

This is set up for regular products, not music products. You're going to have to make a bunch of changes to make it work for music.

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20 Jun 2008, 4:13 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

So what are the changes need to be made?
I just want to know how complicated they are in order to decide if I should give up.

Thanks.
Chih How

22 Jun 2008, 9:44 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

I am trying to work out if I have got this mod set up right as I believe the tax calculation to be a bit odd.

I can get the set up so that the VAT shows correctly but the discount shows up wrong or I can get the discount to show correctly but the tax then for the order is wrong.

I have been testing this again and again and seem to have a discrepancy with the way tax is calculated. Have I got something wrong.

To simplify this I have got 2 products the same price and set better together to discount the second by 5% UK Vat is 17.5% so:

Sale Price £29.99
Discount @ 5% : £1.50

Sale Price therefore: £28.49

VAT payable is £4.47 on the £29.99 item And VAT on second item is £4.24 i.e on £28.49

Total VAT is £8.71

However I get £8.67 showing in Zencart.

The set up for this is INclude tax true tax calculation - Standard

If I change this to include tax false then the discount is £1.28 but the tax calculates correctly to £8.71.

How is the tax being calculated when the better together module is in place as I cannot get to that figure?

5 Jul 2008, 10:44 AM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

If this is UK site? As I see zen on my test site when adding gear to the checkout it calculates vat as a total ie:

1- £28.49 = vat £4.99
2- £29.99 = vat £5.24
Total inc vat = £68.72
Vat payable = £10.23

so i would suspect you zone rates are wrong in admin. check your zone rates are active, and are at 17.5 not 7% florida default rate.

21 Aug 2008, 11:40 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

Scrapbook supplies, I think the comments in my code make it clear where your mods go:

    function setup() {
         // Add all linkages here
         // LifeRing linkages - Brochure Sampler free with any book order
         // To make this work we had to add a separate link for every item in the Books category
         $this->add_prod_to_prod(2,16,"%",100);
         $this->add_prod_to_prod(3,16,"%",100);
         $this->add_prod_to_prod(4,16,"%",100);
         $this->add_prod_to_prod(5,16,"%",100);
         $this->add_prod_to_prod(6,16,"%",100);   
// Some examples are provided: 
/*
         // Buy product 83, get product 53 at 50% off 
         $this->add_prod_to_prod(83, 53, "%", 50); 

         // Buy product 83, get one free 
         $this->add_prod_to_prod(83, 83, "%", 100); 

It isn't necessarily clear that all the stuff after //Some examples are provided is commented out... I had to ask about it myself.

And, of course, it all has to go inside the closing bracket } for function setup().

Hope this helps.

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22 Aug 2008, 12:02 AM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

I have updated the help on my home page to answer this question more clearly.

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31 Aug 2008, 4:36 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

Better Together 2.0 is getting closer. Some changes have been made since my original plans were announced a while back:

  • add_cat_to_prod will be added as a supported linkage.

  • category id handling will not change - it will remain as is (i.e. CAT means master category); I had considered a change here but decided against it.

  • the cart will be sorted by price so that using the most expensive first item and the least expensive second item will be chosen (yielding the lowest discount). In practical terms, add_cat_to_cat(x, y, ...) or add_prod_to_cat(x, y, ...) will select the least expensive item matching category y, rather than the next category y item in product_id order as is currently done. This is the behavior most people expect since it's the most common retail implementation of BOGO ("Discount applies to lowest priced item.")

I intend to release these changes in September.

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8 Sep 2008, 6:30 PM
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Re: Better Together Contribution Support Thread

on 18th January 2008, post id #144 albertomrubio, asked about free shipping working with this mod, does anyone know if this can be done

cool module by the way :clap:.