Superb, I'll give it a go. Thanks! :clap:

Sorry, I should probably start a new thread at this point, but wondered if you had any idea why the following is happening for me both using nochex and authorizenet payment methods (I suppose its not either module but something further upstream, or perhaps my configuration):

When using a gift certificate to pay for all but 31p or less of an order, zc doesnt send me from the Order Confirmation page to the payment provider, but instead takes me directly to the success page as if I had paid! Its bizzare! :wacko:

Hi Everyone,

Please be aware that the v1.3.1 NoChex APC code I posted earlier is for V1.3.7 of Zen Cart. It is not compatible with the newly released v1.3.8 Zen Cart.

Zen Cart v1.3.8 has a NoChex APC module integrated into it. Unfortunately it appears that the code the Dev Team used was several months out of date and does not have recent bug fixes in it (or even some of the bug fixes from the v1.2 code I released :frusty:).

If you are currently using Zen Cart v1.3.7 and rely on NoChex for payments then I personally would suggest not upgrading to Zen Cart v1.3.8 at this time unless you absolutely have to.

Regards,
Christian.

CJPinder:

Unfortunately it appears that the code the Dev Team used was several months out of date and does not have recent bug fixes in it (or even some of the bug fixes from the v1.2 code I released :frusty:).Christian

The work you do supporting this mod is much appreciated, but why do you bury it and the bug fixes associated with it in a support thread, rather than giving it a proper profile in the downloads area like other payment modules (including the other NoChex module)?

kuroi:

The work you do supporting this mod is much appreciated, but why do you bury it and the bug fixes associated with it in a support thread, rather than giving it a proper profile in the downloads area like other payment modules (including the other NoChex module)?

It has been a case of unfortunate timing. The NoChex payment module code is not very good. It was a hack someone did by mashing the PayPal IPN code. When I started using NoChex I realised that there was a number of bugs in the module and tried to fix them. My original intention was to post the fixed code up for other people to help test and then upload a working v1.2 module to the contributions section. Unfortunately, just before I had finished getting feed back on the v1.2 code someone else went and uploaded there own v1.2 code to the contributions section. After that I became too busy to worry about it so left it alone.

Recently, I've done some more work on the module and released some updates for people to test. Again my intention was to uploaded the module to the contributions section once I had some feedback that it was okay. Bad timing strikes again and v1.3.8 comes out with a version of the NoChex module integrated into core code.

Why the dev team felt the NoChex module needed to be integrated into core code I have no idea. There has never been any mention of it, nothing on a road map, not a single post stating that it was the intention. The NoChex module as it stands still has bugs in it and missing features. The v1.3.8 code is a step backwards on even that.

The closed source development of Zen Cart really frustrates me at times because contributors are left in the dark up until a release is done. We then have to spend time reverse engineering the release to find out how to fix our contributions. If we knew what was being changed ahead of time then life would be so much easier. We could have had v1.3.8 compatible modules ready for release which would have made everyones upgrading so much easier. Ho hum :no:

Regards,
Christian.

Sounds like you feel the same way about the Nochex mod as I feel about Stock by Attributes. But at least I have benefited from knowing that SBA is on the roadmap for 1.4.

Most open source projects rapidly become moribund and fade into obscurity. The small number of successful ones develop their own unique cultures and ways of working largely reflecting the personalities and preferences of the individuals on the team. In the case of Zen Cart, it appears that the development team are most comfortable working in a small, closed team, and indeed that this helps to fuel their continuing motivation and commitment to the project. While your and my presence here suggests that, Nochex issues aside, we rather like the results that this produces.

kuroi:

Sounds like you feel the same way about the Nochex mod as I feel about Stock by Attributes.
Well to put it bluntly, it's their headache now. One thing I have learnt is that there is no point in releasing fixes for core code. They just get ignored or lost in the bug reports forum. How the dev team can work without a proper bug tracking system is a mystery.

Maybe I'll go back to writing computer games, there's a certain 3D space game sequel that still needs finishing :laugh: (I am of course still available for paid support work if anyone requires support for their sites or mods, and I do a great service for multivariate testing :wink:)

kuroi:

In the case of Zen Cart, it appears that the development team are most comfortable working in a small, closed team, and indeed that this helps to fuel their continuing motivation and commitment to the project. While your and my presence here suggests that, Nochex issues aside, we rather like the results that this produces.
I think Zen Cart is a great ecommerce system and the dev team do a great job. They just seem to make life extra hard for themselves by not being open in development, bug tracking or change control. There are a lot of people here who could help but it is really made difficult, maybe it is a trust thing.

Regards,
Christian.

CJPinder:

Maybe I'll go back to writing computer games..

Dude, please don't, for what its worth I appreciate all your support, and i'm sure I speak for many others too!

Beerman

Erm..Kinda poked around this thread a bit...is there a working (no bugs) Nochex merchant module that is for zencart 1.3.7 and uses all the new Nochex systems etc?

Thanks
Pete

Hi, am trying to get Nochex card payments working on my ZenCart 1.3.7.1

The short version is I want Nochex to just appear and ask for card details - i.e. NO 'create a Nochex account - that crap just puts people off. How can I change my Nochex 'Seller' account into an 'Xtra' account which allows non-Nochex members to make direct payments up to £100 ?

At the moment when custs check out they are asked by Nochex for Login/Password/last 6 digits of their card.. and the 'register for a nochex account' link takes them to a page about Seller/Merchant accounts - wtf?

Cheers,
Gavin.

Pete - I belive this is what you are after. (V1.31)

http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2995&d=1196080478

gdhgdh - Sounds like you need a merchant account as opposed to the standard seller account. Thats a nochex thing, and nothing to do with the module or ZC.

See for info....http://www.nochex.co.uk/merchant-services/

For the purposes of future searches, I got this problem resolved.

The issue was the Nochex account did not have a debit card registered, even though a UK bank account was associated with it. It is a normal free 'Seller' account - a Merchant account is not required.

Now that the debit card is registered, the full 'enter card details' screen appears for customers on my ZC shop, works like a charm and looks professional.

Christian

Thanks for your work on this. We've been having major problems. The store is on v1.3.0.2 and we loaded v 1.2 of your mod. All worked fine on test but switching to live no order details are being sent to admin or the confirmation emails. It's a merchant account - is this because of the bug that was identified with the description not being passed? Can I load v1.3 onto 1.2 without any issues?

Your help would be VERY much appreciated.

patski:

Thanks for your work on this. We've been having major problems. The store is on v1.3.0.2 and we loaded v 1.2 of your mod. All worked fine on test but switching to live no order details are being sent to admin or the confirmation emails. It's a merchant account - is this because of the bug that was identified with the description not being passed?
That particular bug will not cause the effect that you are seeing. It could be an issue with the v1.2 version of the mod though so the first thing to do is upgrade to the v1.3 version I posted earlier in this thread.

patski:

Can I load v1.3 onto 1.2 without any issues?
Yes, just upload the files in the v1.3 zip to the appropriate places. No database changes are needed going from v1.2 to v1.3.

patski:

Your help would be VERY much appreciated.
Let me know how you get on with v1.3 of the mod. If you get really stuck then drop me a PM and I'll try and help you diagnose and fix the problem.

Regards,
Christian.

gdhgdh:

The issue was the Nochex account did not have a debit card registered, even though a UK bank account was associated with it. It is a normal free 'Seller' account - a Merchant account is not required.
Be aware that NoChex do place some heavy restrictions of Seller accounts that may cause you business issues in the future. IIRC each customer is limited to £100 spend per card for a 75 day period. There is also no partial refunds from Seller accounts (though this has been promised). There are other restrictions as well but I can't remember them at the moment, best read the T&Cs and see if a Seller account is suitable for your business.

Regards,
Christian.

Hi, I have set up zencart 1.38 to use the nochex apc. It works fine except that the 'Order Id' does not show up on the 'Nochex Payment Notification' email or the 'Nochex payment receipt'. I am assuming the 'Order ID' is supposed to be the same as the 'Order Number' which is shown in Orders & on the Order Confirmation emails.

My searches on the forum have not yielded any help, has anyone come across the reason for this and is there a solution?

Nigel

Under pressure:

Hi, I have set up zencart 1.38 to use the nochex apc. It works fine except that the 'Order Id' does not show up on the 'Nochex Payment Notification' email or the 'Nochex payment receipt'. I am assuming the 'Order ID' is supposed to be the same as the 'Order Number' which is shown in Orders & on the Order Confirmation emails.

My searches on the forum have not yielded any help, has anyone come across the reason for this and is there a solution?

NigelZen Cart doesn't create an order until the messy business of sorting out payments has been sorted. Until then the goods are treated as "not yet purchased" and remain in the shopper's basket.

What this means in respect of your query, is that an order number is not allocated until after NoChex has confirmed that the payment transaction has been successful, by which time it's too late pass an order reference to NoChex as it's disappeared off to process somebody else's transaction.

I see, in other words it's not possible becuase of the way Zen-cart & Nochex work at the moment. thanks for the explanation.

Nigel

Under pressure:

I see, in other words it's not possible becuase of the way Zen-cart & Nochex work at the moment. thanks for the explanation.I have seen code changes made that generate a transaction code for the payment provider and attach it to the order, and even attempts to predict what the next order ID will be and send that to the payment provider . Both require a moderate degree of programming skill and Zen Cart knowledge ( and I would strongly recommend against the latter - it's bound to end in tears).

Hi,

Having the same problem here and it's driving me up the wall.

Using 1.3.7 with the latest Nochex APC 1.31.

All payments go through but there is no notification in the emails of what the products are and there is no order history appearing in the shop.

Am I being completely stupid here?

Oooooh, hang on, I'm getting somewhere. If it works I'll post back.