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13 Nov 2008, 8:07 PM
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A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

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GDSupport,

these are the kinds of posts that are all over this forum,

I have a serious question and you can PM me any answer

DO your support people get a commission on selling upgrades?

I dont ask this to cause an issue but I have seen way to many times that rather than actually try to find a cause the first solution is always to try to sell an upgrade.

Merlin,

Im pretty sure that that is the case. Every support guy/girl i talked to in the last couple of weeks have been pitching the upgrade. They all say that the speed of my website is "normal" given my current plan. While my zen cart catalog takes over a minute to come up (or doesnt come up at all ) since 9pm last night.. This is absurd.. There is an obvious problem, and they are just telling me to get an upgrade.
GDSupport, please go to my website (greenhatkiteboarding.com) and try to open any zen cart catalog ( Gear menu -> Kites for example) and tell if the speed is "normal".. Im sure im loosing customers right now.. this is not cool. im starting to look for a more dependable host.

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13 Nov 2008, 8:27 PM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

funny.. 5 minutes after i made my last post, my site became usable again. it was almost completely down since last night.. pages not loading at all or taking over 1 minute to load.
now , they are still a bit slow, but at least they load.
i wonder if me posting here had anything to do with it.

13 Nov 2008, 8:59 PM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

I have also had serious problems with load times, timeouts........ since moving to godaddy around 2 months ago. It was fine at first but a few of weeks back thing started to sloooooowww doooowwwwnnn.

I started on windows hosting and switched to linux, this didn't help.
So I haven't bothered contacting them after switching to the linux setup.

When I spoke to the staff at godaddy they were very nice people to talk to but, that's not what I paid them for!!!!

I had no problems on my previous host with the same zen setup.
I have taken hosting elsewhere and am moving my site there today or tomorrow.

Shane

14 Nov 2008, 12:02 AM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

greenhat:

now , they are still a bit slow, but at least they load.
i wonder if me posting here had anything to do with it.

Greenhat,

I'm glad to hear your pages are now loading. We want to make sure we can help in any way and will be in touch to discuss this further.

shane102:

I have also had serious problems with load times, timeouts........ since moving to godaddy around 2 months ago. It was fine at first but a few of weeks back thing started to sloooooowww doooowwwwnnn.

I started on windows hosting and switched to linux, this didn't help.
So I haven't bothered contacting them after switching to the linux setup.

When I spoke to the staff at godaddy they were very nice people to talk to but, that's not what I paid them for!!!!

I had no problems on my previous host with the same zen setup.
I have taken hosting elsewhere and am moving my site there today or tomorrow.

Shane102,

We are more then willing to look in to these issues even deeper. Our hosting team will contact with you soon.

Sincerely,

14 Nov 2008, 12:10 AM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

shane102 -

Look in your Admin> Tools> Server/Version Info - What does it say for server up time?

Please do not PM for support issues: a private solution doesn't benefit the community.

Be careful with unsolicited advice via email or PM - Make sure the person you are talking to is a reliable source.

14 Nov 2008, 12:35 AM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

shane102,

You're not alone.

I've got a long-standing client who's been using GoDaddy hosting religiously for years, contrary to my recommendations.

Today his site is PAINFULLY slow. For the last 6+ hours it's been grinding at a halt.

4 hours ago it was showing these load-averages (in ZC admin->Tools->Server Info):
Server Up Time: 13:36:18 up 151 days, 6:35, 0 users, load average: 29.59, 31.36, 33.86
Server Up Time: 13:38:55 up 151 days, 6:38, 0 users, load average: 32.87, 31.98, 33.70
Server Up Time: 13:39:22 up 151 days, 6:38, 0 users, load average: 33.73, 32.22, 33.73
Server Up Time: 13:42:11 up 151 days, 6:41, 0 users, load average: 30.69, 30.58, 32.80

and now it's showing:
Server Up Time: 17:20:24 up 151 days, 10:19, 0 users, load average: 23.52, 21.87, 19.26
Server Up Time: 17:41:37 up 151 days, 10:40, 0 users, load average: 27.73, 29.45, 27.24

It's not getting much better.

I suspect the server's overloaded with way too many customers on it. Of course, GD is unlikely to acknowledge that. Most hosts won't. Typically they'll just kill the apache process and restart it again hoping that'll knock things down a bit. If they have to restart the server, you'll see the server-uptime number get a reset ... and unless they actually DO something to fix whatever caused the overloading in the first place the problem will resurface again later.
Granted, sometimes high load averages are a result of spam or hacking activity on a completely different account ... but everyone using that shared server suffers. Again, unless the hole is plugged, it's just a matter of time before it happens again.
If the spike in activity is a result of having too many accounts on the same server, they need to move accounts to another server ... but ... unless they police that properly, the problem will just happen again when they allow too many on it again.
These issues are common to all shared-hosting services ... but a good host will actively minimize the number of accounts per server, thus minimizing the likelihood of server-speed plummetting. And, a good host will normally be willing to move your account to a less-overloaded server at no charge, instead of immediately jumping to upsell you to an insanely-overpriced plan.

For at least 5 years I've observed the same as merlin has mentioned: GoDaddy "support" is really a sales office whose primary mandate is to sell sell sell. They don't like doing support because that ties them up and prevents them from getting to the next phone call where they might actually make money on a commissioned sale, or at least keep their call-volume quota at an impressive level. Hence the passing-the-buck attitude so often experienced when calling in.

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14 Nov 2008, 1:40 AM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

GDSupport:

Greenhat,

I'm glad to hear your pages are now loading. We want to make sure we can help in any way and will be in touch to discuss this further.

Shane102,

We are more then willing to look in to these issues even deeper. Our hosting team will contact with you soon.

Sincerely,

See, i think it's the problem. So far i've been getting a lot of empty promises and the only solution offered was to upgrade to a super expensive plan which im sure i do not need given my relatively low traffic.
I dont need a website that will always be super fast. I just need a website that will always load. And lately, it's been happening a lot less then advertised 99% of the time. While im being told by your staff that it's completely normal based on GoDaddy's "tests". Sure, the site is loading fine now, but it doesnt look like i can trust it to load like that all the time.

14 Nov 2008, 2:11 AM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

Just got a call from a GoDaddy support person. Nice guy - Said they will monitor the website and try to figure out the problem. It's nice to actually have someone looking into the issue ,but it's unfortunate that the only way to make that happen is when you make a fuss about it on the forums.

14 Nov 2008, 3:08 AM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

Said they will monitor the website and try to figure out the problem.

and the check is in the mail. :rotflmao:

(former godaddy client and reseller!)

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14 Nov 2008, 6:03 AM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

charmedbytina2:

and the check is in the mail. :rotflmao:

(former godaddy client and reseller!)

Tina

:) unfortunately, no check.. i wouldn't mind given the potential sales these downtimes have cost me.
either way, it's a pain in the a&& to move. so, if they get their sh&t together , i guess i'll stay for now.. if these problems start happening again, i'll definitely hit the road.

14 Nov 2008, 1:07 PM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

Server Up Time: 05:25:52 up 131 days, 15:08, 0 users, load average: 11.27, 9.52, 7.70

I just clicked on an item thats displayed on my home page and the page didnt show, so I refreshed and it took 55 seconds to load (according to fasterfox)and look to another product-62 seconds.

I have also recieved an email from GoDaddy saying that they have looked into my problem and that its coming from a folder that holds most of the images i use on my site. the folder holds around 49 or 50,000 images and a subfolder(that shouldn't be there and will be deleted) which appears to be a copy of its parent.
So GoDaddy say/reccomend that I shouldn't have more than 1024 files in a folder. Is that true? I wasn't aware of that. :oops:

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14 Nov 2008, 1:28 PM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

The last host I was with I used almost exactly the same setup (different domain name) and didnt have these problems.

I changed hosts because several of their servers crashed and it took over two weeks to get the problems sorted and even then it wasn't fully fixed:frusty:

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20 Nov 2008, 4:42 PM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

Seriously? Godaddy support? Two weeks ok on monday we couldn't even access our site. I call godaddy, they realize they are experiencing a problem on thier end. They assure me it will be fix within 24 hours. HA HA, well two weeks later the same thing is still happening periodically. I have called numerous times, and even submitted 2 support tickets. They tell me, the network load seems oddly high but it shouldn't affect anything. I beg to differ. I deal with it every day. Customers are calling in frustrated because the website keeps timing out. Yes, we are switching hosting providers. We have 12 domains with godaddy that is soon to be no more. I personally have had enough. Oh, and the value applications they install for free, they have absolutley no support for them whatsoever, and don't tell me they do, I have called and recieved an anwser verbatim " We don't support any of those applications" but yet they install it for you. It's like calling an auto dealer for support with your vacum cleaner.

10 Dec 2008, 1:43 AM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

That's it - Im moving hosts... GoDaddy worked fairly well for about a week or two.. Then it started slowing down again.. And now, I get the dreaded MySQL timeout errors. Worst of all, it really pisses me off when there is an obvious problem with the servers, and support tells you that everything is fine.

GD Support, i think you guys should listen to your clients before you loose a lot more of them:

  • Stop overloading your servers, or at least offer an upgrade to move to a less crowded server (and the 7 times $ amount upgrade to a virtual host doesnt count)
  • open up ports needed for zen cart to function properly

im not shopping around for a better alternative.

16 Dec 2008, 10:27 PM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

greenhat:

That's it - Im moving hosts... GoDaddy worked fairly well for about a week or two.. Then it started slowing down again.. And now, I get the dreaded MySQL timeout errors. Worst of all, it really pisses me off when there is an obvious problem with the servers, and support tells you that everything is fine.

GD Support, i think you guys should listen to your clients before you loose a lot more of them:

  • Stop overloading your servers, or at least offer an upgrade to move to a less crowded server (and the 7 times $ amount upgrade to a virtual host doesnt count)
  • open up ports needed for zen cart to function properly

im not shopping around for a better alternative.

Smart Move.. I have one test site on GoDaddy and it takes about 2-3 min to come up using broadband. So I checked the whois.domain-ns and found that the server I use has 3696 other sites residing on that server. Duh !!!:blush:
Thank goodness it's not a live store or I'd go bankrupt.

3 Jan 2009, 7:38 PM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

Anyone using godaddy having problems with html editor?
One of my client's sites is hosted with them, and when trying to update any of the define_pages using html - nothing works. Images won't upload or they get assigned a path drawing from the ADMIN images folder (whatever!) and text sizes and color changes just don't work.

Any ideas on how to fix this - recommended host move already - no go.

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19 Feb 2009, 5:55 AM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

shane102:

I have also had serious problems with load times, timeouts........ since moving to godaddy around 2 months ago. It was fine at first but a few of weeks back thing started to sloooooowww doooowwwwnnn.

I started on windows hosting and switched to linux, this didn't help.
So I haven't bothered contacting them after switching to the linux setup.

When I spoke to the staff at godaddy they were very nice people to talk to but, that's not what I paid them for!!!!

I had no problems on my previous host with the same zen setup.
I have taken hosting elsewhere and am moving my site there today or tomorrow.

I have had the same problem as shane, the site speed works normal on the start but a few weeks later, the slowness has impacting me most of the time

Also when i want to switch from Windows into Linux, i didn't find Upgrade/Downgrade Hosting Account. in my right hand side as it stated in here
http://help.godaddy.com/article/1285

Seriously, where is that button?

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19 Feb 2009, 7:01 AM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

Those are questions you need to ask directly to your hosting company.

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19 Feb 2009, 4:44 PM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

My partner & I are just beginning to set up our website, not much done yet except that we've decided we want to run our store using Zen Cart after reading up about many different cart options. We purchased a test month of hosting through Go Daddy and we're already having issues just with installation. We're learning as we go and thankfully haven't purchased a full year with GD - at this point, before we begin actually building the site, we really need to know WHICH host we should go with? We want the make the right choice NOW so that we don't have issues with trying to move our site in the future. HELP PLEASE! :D

19 Feb 2009, 6:49 PM
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Re: A few problems - Using GoDaddy as my host

There's a "Certified Hosts" link at the top of this page, where you can find some suggestions. Be sure to do your own research before selecting one.

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