Quote Originally Posted by mprough View Post
Delete of installer: I would be satisfied if the manual installer worked. I actually have tested it several times since this original post and it just does not work. I had to create a mime for the bak files, use the installer, back out the changes and merge the files by hand after the installer ran. Then delete install directories and bak files and remove mime type.

I can appreciate that you are trying to make it easier... But different hosted environments, users, configurations and such being as Zen Cart has always been, a manual installation is really necessary IMO.

The whole point of Zen Cart has always been the customization.
As I have stated in previous posts, we have already corrected the code for the next release so that the .BAK files are named differently. This should resolve issues the use of .BAK files will create for some hosting environments. It was a pretty simple change to make.. There is no immediate plan to delete the auto-installer..

Quote Originally Posted by mprough View Post
I also believe that users presented with a "super easy" install will likely change other customizations unknowingly. A user who doesn't know what modules/customizations are integrated in the affected files should likely not be doing the install.
This holds true even for add-ons which must be manually installed.. There are shopowners who over write modifications made by other add-ons ALL THE TIME because they do not know to merge the changes into files. NOTHING about installing IH4 changes those rules.. If you want to merge other changes into these files BEFORE the install, then you should do just that. For shopowners who have made no changes they do not need to do any file merges. The readme in the next release makes that even clearer than the current readme.. There are only THREE modified core files required by IH4 that MAY be affected by other add-ons (usually lightbox add-ons). This is NO different than previous versions of IH so I don't think this is as big of an issue as you would appear to be implying that it is.

Bottomline is regardless of the add-on, shopowners need to READ THE README before installing ANY add-on and not assume that everything is the same.. That said we have made some improvements with the readme that will be included in the updated version to be submitted soon.

For the record, this is NOT the only add-on available which makes use an auto installer.

Quote Originally Posted by mprough View Post
I have no issue with the files being backed up at all, as long as they are secure.
And as long as your store is secure so are the backup files

Quote Originally Posted by mprough View Post
The database installer in the old IH was significantly different than what IH4 does. No comparison really.
Sorry I must disagree, this is not a true statement. There were only TWO changes to Image Handler installer.

  1. There is now a file which automatically executes the install. After executing the install, this file self deletes itself so that the install file is not executed again. The entire process is the equivalent of the old Image Handler install. In that processes you open the Image Handler admin and click on the "Install Image Handler" link. (BTW, the install file was left in place afterwards in the "old" install method)
  2. The current installer makes an attempt to clean up outdated image configuration settings. Previous versions of Image Handler required the store admin to remember to run the uninstall of the version they were upgrading from BEFORE upgrading (most did not and this caused a unique set of issues)