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15 Jun 2012, 9:48 PM
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in my view a "no purchase" email should be different from an abandoned cart email.
The "no purchase" only targets customer with an account, but who did never place a purchase.
The abandoned cart email also contacts customers, who did place an order in the past.

maybe it makes sense to combine them - will think about.

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16 Jun 2012, 1:48 AM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

Here is my unsolicited 2 cents:

Adding to what Cord said, I'm thinking that the language used to approach these two types of very different customers or potential customers would be also need to be very different from one another. If both functionalities were combined in a single mod, it would be very difficult to get the approach language just right in the email template. You might even need two templates - one to address each scenario. It would probably have to be written in such a way so the mod distinguishes between the two and then selects the appropriate template.

For example, for a potential customer who has created an account but has never made a purchase...I might want to send them an email asking them if they were unable to find what they were looking for, or if I could help them find something to suit their needs, and perhaps even include a coupon to entice them to purchase.

Whereas for an abandoned cart, I might want the language to include a request for feedback...i.e. 'we notice you had items in your cart that you didn't purchase. would you mind sharing some feedback with us about that? i.e. did you find the product for a lower price in another store? was the product not exactly what you were looking for? Is there anything I can do to assist you with your purchase? etc. and then also include a coupon to entice them to complete the purchase.

I'm not a coder, so I don't know if this would be as complex to write as it sounds (1 mod, two different types of customers, two different email templates). Although I completely agree with Limitless about not overwhelming the customer with emails, I don't think that would happen if the mods were separate because each one is designed to pull different customers from the database.

At any rate, these are the reasons why I cast my vote for keeping no purchase and abandoned cart as two separate modules.

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in my view a "no purchase" email should be different from an abandoned cart email.
The "no purchase" only targets customer with an account, but who did never place a purchase.
The abandoned cart email also contacts customers, who did place an order in the past.

maybe it makes sense to combine them - will think about.

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17 Jun 2012, 3:24 AM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

I guess in my situation, I do not have COWOA installed, so as a 'guest' goes through the checkout, a customer account gets created for them.

If they bail just before check out, they now fit both scenarios presented and I would hammer them with emails.

New Customer/No Purchase
Abandoned Cart with Items

I suppose installing COWOA would alleviate the issue, but would I no longer capture email addresses of 'potential' customers, thereby negating the 'no purchase' module?

17 Jun 2012, 2:13 PM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

I understand what you're saying. Are you aware that you control the No Purchase days passed setting?

The No Purchase mod is designed to contact the customer who has created an account but never made a purchase - but only after the amount of time you set. So in the scenario you described, the potential customer wouldn't get both an abandoned cart email and a no purchase email at the same time unless you set the no purchase email to be sent immediately upon account creation. And you wouldn't do that because it's not an appropriate use of the mod, nor is it good customer service.

A more appropriate way to use the No Purchase mod is to set it up to be sent out to the customer after an appropriate length of time has passed. This reminds them that they have created an account with you but have never used it - and encourages them to come make a purchase. So yes, while the customer would eventually get both emails, they would be separated in time.

I agree that you don't want to spam your customers with multiple emails...but the key to intelligent emailing, or email marketing is both timing and language. If the language in your emails make it clear that they each serve a different purpose, and the language is gentle yet direct, (vs. aggressive and smarmy), then the customer won't respond negatively to your emails. Also remember, there is a setting in MailBeez that lets you target your emails to subscribed members only. Since this is a choice a customer must make during account creation - subscribed users are expecting your emails.

Who determines what an appropriate length of time is? You do. This will vary by store owner. If you sell seasonal items for example, and change your stock every 3-4 months, you might want that potential customer to hear from you before you change out your stock for the season, and so setting days passed to 90 or 120 would be appropriate for your store. Or perhaps your stock is made up of closeout items and so it is constantly changing. You might want to set your days passed to 60 days. Or maybe you feel two weeks is an appropriate amount of time, so you set the number of days passed to 14. The point is, you have full control of this setting.

An abandoned cart mod would, I assume, send an email immediately upon cart abandonment. Although I suppose you could set the days passed, but it wouldn't make any sense to set the days passed to more than one - presumably you want the customer to get the email on the same day the cart was abandoned. I also think you have to be very careful with the language in an abandoned cart mod in order to avoid being invasive.

A good use for an abandoned cart mod is one that sends an email saying something like "hey...you left these items in your cart. We have saved them for you so they'll be there next time you log in".

At any rate...these two concepts (no purchase and abandoned cart) are two very different things and should be handled differently. Now whether or not Cord would want to find a way to combine them into a single mod while retaining the ability to manage the situations separately....that's a different question - and probably one best answered by Cord :)

Limitless:

I guess in my situation, I do not have COWOA installed, so as a 'guest' goes through the checkout, a customer account gets created for them.

If they bail just before check out, they now fit both scenarios presented and I would hammer them with emails.

New Customer/No Purchase
Abandoned Cart with Items

I suppose installing COWOA would alleviate the issue, but would I no longer capture email addresses of 'potential' customers, thereby negating the 'no purchase' module?

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18 Jun 2012, 9:26 AM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

hi ScriptJunkie,

thanks for your explaination - it is what I had i mind, but could write down ;-)

the whole concept behind MailBeez is to have trigger-events (e.g. sign-up, purchase,...), some additional conditions and timing around that.

combining these things allows to send our very selective to customers in a certain situation - without overloading them.

To maintain this concept it is important to keep things separate - meaning separate modules (and with those separate email templates) for each situation.

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18 Jun 2012, 9:32 AM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

the MailBeez V2.6 installation says to place

/includes/extra_configures/mailbeez_tracking.php

to enable tracking of open/click/order.

That causes an error!

Workaround:

do not place the file mentioned above (or remove it)

Instead add

// MailBeez Click and Order tracker
require(DIR_FS_CATALOG . 'mailhive/includes/clicktracker.php');

at the bottom of

/includes/application_top.php

Background:
when loading the extra_configures the zencart system is not initiated (e.g. constants are not loaded), which breaks the mailbeez_tracker.

The best solution would be to find the correct way of auto-include the mailbeez tracker script after the zencart system is initated.
Does someone know how to do this?

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20 Jun 2012, 11:32 AM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

balihr:

Actually, I wasn't planning on supporting this and didn't follow this thread, but this is a bug caused by me so I'm gonna try and fix it.

I've attached a file, can you re-upload it and see if it's OK now. If everything's OK, please post an update here and I'll send an official update for the plugin section. Thanks.

The updated version is sending out emails that now show the products purchased, but the header/logo is messed up.

It now shows:

[Logo Image]

$EMAIL_SUBJECT

[Logo Image]

Where the logo image is correct (just duplicated) with the email subject variable placed in between them.

23 Jun 2012, 6:30 PM
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Limitless:

The updated version is sending out emails that now show the products purchased, but the header/logo is messed up.

It now shows:

[Logo Image]

$EMAIL_SUBJECT

[Logo Image]

Where the logo image is correct (just duplicated) with the email subject variable placed in between them.

This was a misconfiguration on my part, your module works as expected.

26 Jun 2012, 1:14 PM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

I installed review advanced for a client and it's running in simulation mode. We run a simulation and when we click on the write review link in the email it logs an error in the cache directory: [26-Jun-2012 06:37:20] PHP Fatal error: Class 'email' not found in .../mailhive/common/classes/oscommerce/emailMB.php on line 14. Zencart 1.3.9h and review advanced 2.4

5 Jul 2012, 1:48 PM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

Hi everyone,

Cord is on holiday through the end of July, so I will be doing my best to provide support for MailBeez in his absence.

For whatever reason, I don't always get emails from the forum telling me when there is a new posting, so if you post and I don't respond, please use the Live Chat tool on the MailBeez website for assistance.

Thank you :)

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12 Jul 2012, 9:46 AM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

Been away for a couple of days... Running Customer review reminder module give me an error when attemptong to run.

The small window opens and I click the 'Run' command and I get: "Navigation to webpage was cancelled" It does not matter which PC I use so it 'aint local and no changes have been made. (Zen 1.3.9h)

12 Jul 2012, 1:45 PM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

Hi Rizla,

A few questions for you:

Is the module Review Reminder Simple (free) or Review Reminder Advanced (premium)
Which version of the module are you running?
Are you in production mode or simulation mode?
Have you run the module before without incident?
You say no changes have been made - do you mean no changes at all (i.e. no new addons installed, no file customizations, no db changes, etc) or do you mean no changes that you think would affect MailBeez?

Rizla:

Been away for a couple of days... Running Customer review reminder module give me an error when attemptong to run.

The small window opens and I click the 'Run' command and I get: "Navigation to webpage was cancelled" It does not matter which PC I use so it 'aint local and no changes have been made. (Zen 1.3.9h)

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12 Jul 2012, 5:59 PM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

Free
v2.5
Production
Many many times (all ok)
Only new install was 'Ultimate Cross Sell'

Thanks for the help

13 Jul 2012, 12:49 AM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

Hi Rizla,

Please visit the MailBeez website and click "Live Chat" to start a support ticket. It may take a day or two before Cord can respond (he's on holiday through the end of the month and checking the site every couple days), but he will need to be the one to troubleshoot this for you.

When you start the support ticket, please include all the info you've provided here at the forum.

Thanks :)

Rizla:

Free
v2.5
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Many many times (all ok)
Only new install was 'Ultimate Cross Sell'

Thanks for the help

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18 Jul 2012, 6:16 AM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

Junlie.... I had an issue with my HD and eventually had to re-format the thing (first itme in ages) and it must have been a local problem. All is working now!

Thanks for the help though.

18 Jul 2012, 12:40 PM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

I'm glad you got it all sorted out :)

Rizla:

Junlie.... I had an issue with my HD and eventually had to re-format the thing (first itme in ages) and it must have been a local problem. All is working now!

Thanks for the help though.

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20 Jul 2012, 6:12 PM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

Hi, What is the latest version and where do I download it from

Is your site Upgraded to the current version 1.5.4 Yet?
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20 Jul 2012, 8:33 PM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

The latest version is 2.6.2 and you can get it from the MailBeez website

countrycharm:

Hi, What is the latest version and where do I download it from

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20 Jul 2012, 9:04 PM
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Re: Mailbeez After Sales Modules

ScriptJunkie:

The latest version is 2.6.2 and you can get it from the MailBeez website

Thank You.....

Is your site Upgraded to the current version 1.5.4 Yet?
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