Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

Before I start I want to thank everyone involved in creating this wonderful addition to ZenCart. So Tim, ckosloff, Diva and anyone else big THANKS.

I have yet to get IH2 to work properly but after reading hundreds of posts. From joyjoy to present I think I know why it is not working for me. Please pardon my lack of experience in ZC but I hope I am as clear as possible. I'll probably answer my own question as I write this but I hope it helps others in my same situation. :D

::INFO::
ZC 1.3.9h
IH2 Rv8d
Admin>Images>widths are all constant at 125
Default Image size: 125x94
Default location: images>products
Large Image size: 350x263
Large location: images>large>products
Product Info Width: 250
Issue: Zoom feature.
Site: https://www.blackstarhobbies.com

::CONFIG SETTINGS::
Title Value
**Small Image Width 125 **
Small Image Height
Heading Image Width - Admin 57
Heading Image Height - Admin 40
**Subcategory Image Width 125 **
Subcategory Image Height
Calculate Image Size true
Image Required true
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1
Image - Shopping Cart Width 50
Image - Shopping Cart Height 40
Category Icon Image Width - Product Pages 57
Category Icon Image Height - Product Pages 40
**Top Subcategory Image Width 125 **
Top Subcategory Image Height
*Product - Image Width 250 *
Product - Image Height
Product - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product - Image Large Suffix _LRG
Product - Number of Additional Images per Row 3
**Image - Product Listing Width 125 **
Image - Product Listing Height
**Image - Product New Listing Width 125 **
Image - Product New Listing Height
**Image - New Products Width 125 **
Image - New Products Height
**Image - Featured Products Width 125 **
Image - Featured Products Height
**Image - Product All Listing Width 125 **
Image - Product All Listing Height
Product Image - No Image Status 1
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif
*Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1
IH resize images yes *
IH small image filetype no_change
IH small image background 255:255:255
IH watermark small images no
IH zoom small images yes
IH small image compression quality 85
IH medium image filetype no_change
IH medium image background 255:255:255
IH watermark medium images no
IH medium image compression quality 85
IH large image filetype no_change
IH large image background 255:255:255
IH watermark large images no
IH large image compression quality 85
IH large image maximum width 450
IH large image maximum height
IH watermark gravity Center

:: DESCRIPTION::
When hovering over list images the zoom = 125x94 instead of 250. When entering the product info page the image is also 125x94. I think that it has always been like this and I just noticed now because of trying to add this module. Perhaps this is the case because I do not have a images>medium>products>xxxxx_MED.jpg file for it. (Still learning ZC so this may have been my poor understanding of the image preparation how to (https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=224).

I tested in Admin>Tools>IH2 adding a default image of 125x94 and had the same effect except that the large image was also labeled at 125x94. When I tested a much larger image as default the 3 sizes and zoom worked; however, it looks like IH2 uses the default image location "images". Aside from the fancy hover effect, I like how IH2 will do the heavy lifting for me. No need to resize images on my own anymore.

**So this is where I need your advice. **

1. I want to keep my images organized. I was thinking of changing my image storage to sub folders within images named after the product manufacturer. Is this still possible when using IH2? If so, can you point me in the right direction to do so?

2. Do I need to reload all my images using IH2? Or can I load large images into the default folder and update the image location from every product.

3. When IH2 manipulates/resizes the images do they get put into the bmz_cache? If so is there any reason why I would want to clear cache eventually? I am guessing that the DB update was to store the image identifiers now.

4. (Not IH2 related) I haven't cleaned up the images ZC comes with after install thinking I may need them some day when discovering some ZC feature I didn't think I needed when I started. Do you all remove these images and folders?

@BSHRC

Something is misconfigured, because as you mention Image Handler is using the default Images from the images folder, not its own cached version from the bmz_cache.

What are the permissions set on the /bmz_cache folder
and are there any errors appearing in your /cache folder

Image handler will use the base image as its base to work from and will not resize images that are smaller than its settings, try putting in a large image as your base image, as from what i can see in most cases your base image appears to be 125

As for image organisation, organise your image folder however you want and image handler will work fine, but you image organisation will not be copied accross to the bmz_cache it uses its own system

Clearing the bmz_cache - reasons you may want to do this, I personally do this everytime i make changes to the image size settings, and once in a while to clear out the cached images of deleted products, (one site I deal with has 3-4000 products)

Nigelt74,

Thanks for the reply.

Permissions to bmz_cache are 755. I have tried both 755 and 777 permissions.

In Admin>Tools>IH2 when I strip a product of all images and enter an image of 125x94 all sizes are at 125x94. Furthermore, the image appears in my images folder as opposed to the images>products folder. From your response you mentioned something is misconfigured and I don't know where one would configure a default folder location or an option in IH2 to where to place the image.

Good point no the reasons to clear the cache.

Any help is appreciated.

BSHRC:

Nigelt74,

Thanks for the reply.

Permissions to bmz_cache are 755. I have tried both 755 and 777 permissions.

In Admin>Tools>IH2 when I strip a product of all images and enter an image of 125x94 all sizes are at 125x94.

Image handle doesn't enlarge images,

basically lets say you want your
listing page image to be 125px w
Hover image and product image to be 250px w
and your larger image to be 500px w
you would just upload a 500px w image as the only image for your product and image handler would automatically create the various sizes in the bmz_cache

What i think is happening is that you are putting up a 125px w image as your base image and then wondering why you are not getting a 250px wide hover image

BSHRC:

Nigelt74,

From your response you mentioned something is misconfigured and I don't know where one would configure a default folder location or an option in IH2 to where to place the image.

Good point no the reasons to clear the cache.

Any help is appreciated.
Image handler has nothing to do with where the image is stored in the images directory,
you should be able to select any subfolder of images on the admin --> catagory/products --> and select and edit your specific product

the images directory is the default one i think, you need to actually select images/product when adding the image

There is a hack to set it as default

nigelt74:

There is a hack to set it as defaultThis caught my attention.. :laugh: I as a mater of practice train my clients to use a "products" sub-folder for uploading their product images.. Would be nice if this was the default location (much like category images) Can you PM me the hack.. (Don't want to start an off-topic discussion..)

Nigelt,

I figured I was backwards with the sizing and I did have a hunch regarding the default image siz; however, when adding an image to my product directly from IH2 it does go to images rather than images>products. Does this mean that when I add additional images to my product they will go to images as well?

Could you share with us how to change the default folder?

BSHRC:

however, when adding an image to my product directly from IH2 it does go to images rather than images>products. Does this mean that when I add additional images to my product they will go to images as well?If you use IH2 to upload your main product image image (meaning you have NOT uploaded a product image at the time you created a product), the IH2 interface will provide you the option to choose the image directory where this image should be uploaded to. In the IH2 interface ou will see a "Base image directory" section which will allow you to choose one of your "images" folders sub-directories (or you may choose to upload the image directly into the top level "images" folder). Once you choose the directory where the image should be uploaded to, all additional images you upload via IH2 will then be uploaded to the same directory.

on the other hand...

If you uploaded your main product image at the time you created the product, any subsequent images you upload via IH2 will go into the same directory you uploaded the main product image into.

BSHRC:

Could you share with us how to change the default folder?That particular discussion is kinda off-topic for IH2 support which is why I asked Nigel to PM me that information.. I'm sure he'll be happy to share it with you too and/or if he shares it with me I'll post it in the appropriate place on the forum so that everyone can make use of the information..:smile:

Now if this hack is possible update for IH2, then I hope Nigel shares this information here... and if Nigel doesn't object, I'll be happy to incorporate it into the IH2 code and upload an updated version with this code included.. :smile:

Thank you all for clarifying these things for me! Love the contribution!

BSHRC:

Thank you all for clarifying these things for me! Love the contribution!Awesome!!! Once you play around with IH2, you'll see that it really is pretty easy to install and use..:smile:

I use it for my clients because they don't have to "learn" how to name images for Zen Cart to recognize them as additional product images.. (though it's pretty easy to do manually, for many of my clients, it was a bit mind blowing..) With IH2 they simply upload their additional product images and IH2 does all the "heavy lifting" of re-naming for them.. :laugh:

Yessir, once the default image size was clarified for me, I was off to the races.

The IH2 works wonderfully and extensive read me file got me moments away from the full desired effect. Now onto the watermark image.

Thanks again.

My larger image link has stopped working now. The only thing I changed was I installed the Simple Google Analytics addon.

The box pops up but no image inide it. Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot? :(

http://www.cuffed.com.au

Thanks,

Ben

I just found out, my probably with the larger image link not working was being casued by the Simple Google Analytics add-on. When I change the tracking method back to the default (ga.js) it works fine.

When the tracking mode is set to Asyncronous it breaks the larger image link. I have posted now in the Simple Google Analytics support thread, asking if it is a bug.

cre8ive:

My larger image link has stopped working now. The only thing I changed was I installed the Simple Google Analytics addon.

The box pops up but no image inide it. Any suggestions on how to troubleshoot? :(

http://www.cuffed.com.au

Thanks,

Ben

Ben I assume you have partially fixed this as when i click the larger image link the popup has the image in it, although it appears the image is coming from the images directory rather than Image handlers cache, was it a case of having to exclude the pop-up url, as is the case with one of the other seo mods?

BSHRC:

Nigelt,
Could you share with us how to change the default folder?
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpost.php?p=707641&postcount=2

I'll provide a link here as undoubtedly someone will ask in a weeks time and I will have forgotten, this sets a default on the add product page of zencart, i have never bothered about looking for a way to set the default in IH as all my clients upload via the add products page and if they do add additional images via zencart they will be uploaded to the correct directory automatically,

BSHRC:

Nigelt,
Could you share with us how to change the default folder?
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpost.php?p=707641&postcount=2

I'll provide a link here as undoubtedly someone will ask in a weeks time and I will have forgotten, this sets a default on the add product page of zencart (nothing to do with IH, I know, but it might be an idea to add it in the notes), i have never bothered about looking for a way to set the default in IH as all my clients upload via the add products page and if they do add additional images via zencart they will be uploaded to the correct directory automatically,

[quote=nigelt74;968413 (nothing to do with IH, I know, but it might be an idea to add it in the notes)[/quote]Yeah yeah yeah.. :laugh:

nigelt74:

i have never bothered about looking for a way to set the default in IH as all my clients upload via the add products page and if they do add additional images via zencart they will be uploaded to the correct directory automatically,
Same here.. wasn't sure if your hack was a general Zen Cart hack or an IH2 hack..

Hey guys,

I'm using the ZenCart v1.3.9 and ImageHandler2 v2.0. I have around active 2290 products, most of them (some 90% - 95%) working and showing up perfectly. But there is a certain number of products that just doesn't show up when the ImageHandler is installed.

It's like when you open the category and all the products lists. You click on a specific product but the browser just shows the empty blank (white) page. When I turn off the ImageHandler2 it shows up perfectly. I tried removing the image, uploading it again, but nothing seems to work.

Any ideas?

There's a number of reasons why this may happen but without a link to the specific product(s) where this occurs we can only lob guesses back at you LOL.. One common issue with product pages not displaying consistently (works for some products but not other) can be traced back to product names (particularly when the product names include non-numeric characters). The usual culprits her are single and double quotations in the product names..

vladimir_vulic:

Hey guys,

I'm using the ZenCart v1.3.9 and ImageHandler2 v2.0. I have around active 2290 products, most of them (some 90% - 95%) working and showing up perfectly. But there is a certain number of products that just doesn't show up when the ImageHandler is installed.

It's like when you open the category and all the products lists. You click on a specific product but the browser just shows the empty blank (white) page. When I turn off the ImageHandler2 it shows up perfectly. I tried removing the image, uploading it again, but nothing seems to work.

Any ideas?
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Hi all!

Firstly I want to thank the author of IH for the great labour that are doing in zen-cart community. Thanks a lot and go on, you're gonna get far working on this way!

My problem is that few days ago I moved my zen-cart from my old shared hosting to a new dedicated one, all things were coming easy and my website seemed to be working fine until I noticed that some products was not showing their additional images. It doesn't happen to all products (that's the oddest thing), only to products that have more than 3 additional images. I checked permissions, missing files, configuration, etc... and I have been unable to fix this. Desperately I removed all the zen-cart installation from the new hosting and tried to copy from the old one, but it doesn't work yet.

This problem is driving me crazy and I don't find the way to fix it. Has someone had the same problem? I tried to reset the IH cache but that worsened the situation, the categories didn't showed any of the products and that required me to move all the files to the site again.

I'll be pleasent for any tip that can solve the problem.

Thanks!!

Anyone had a similar problem? From IH manager I could not view/edit images from conflict products even after reseting IH cache. Finally I've disabled IH and now all images are showing but in its original size. I don't know what happening and that's driving me crazy. Can anybody give me any track to solve the problem?

Thank you and have a nice weekend!