Paypal 2.0 for zen cart

Hi Snarkys,
It seems you have been luckier than many to have used paypal for so long with no problems. Have you ever had a need to contact Paypal directly (i.e. for technical issues, chargebacks, transaction disputes, etc.)? That is when one usually realizes how crummy their services are. But maybe they will have a different support line for this new gateway.

voltage:

Hi Snarkys,
It seems you have been luckier than many to have used paypal for so long with no problems. Have you ever had a need to contact Paypal directly (i.e. for technical issues, chargebacks, transaction disputes, etc.)? That is when one usually realizes how crummy their services are. But maybe they will have a different support line for this new gateway.

well yes and no . like 5 years ago i had to deal with a charge back and it was a headache but for the last 5 years I've had no issues with them. for a small business (15-30) packages a day they make things pretty simple to use and keep things well organized. i really dislike all the cutting and pasting and double checking every order to make sure i know what ones went out as i go back and forth threw normal paypal and my new credit card payments with link point. guess i will let ya know how this ends up working out. i personally have no issue with paying the $20 a month to remove both of those things.

Is this the same as their Gatway tools??

Looks very expensive.

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_payflow-gateway-pricing

I reaaly need some automated tools.

I"m thinking about going with these guys. Anyone have experiance.
Its a page on Zen so i am thinging they have to be a better alternitive
http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=infopages&pages_id=30
I donno they seem to good to be true. Calling them on monday.

milobloom:

I"m thinking about going with these guys. Anyone have experiance.
Its a page on Zen so i am thinging they have to be a better alternitive
http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=infopages&pages_id=30
I donno they seem to good to be true. Calling them on monday.

I started useing them last week and it was super easy to set up and works well . just takes a bit more work on the shiping end and order tracking using Zen Cart admin area vs my PayPal account.

So many nightmares about Paypal holding peoples money.
They did for us too! $300 for 3 months!

We take out the money daily just to be safe.

Forgot about the tradeoff. The tracking & Shipping is sooo easy with Paypal.
Is there a USPS interface with Zencart? Something that will put the address right into USPS web site?

Argh. Paypal sucks and is the best in the same token.
Oh also. Paypal doesnt charge for Chargebacks or extra for Amex.

I guess I hope I can get this interface soon.

milobloom:

Forgot about the tradeoff. The tracking & Shipping is sooo easy with Paypal.
Is there a USPS interface with Zencart? Something that will put the address right into USPS web site?

well you can try QBI to export to quickbooks and then use quickbooks to ship with shiprush.

you can also try Zen-Cart Order Manager which uses quickbooks and endicia

both obviously require you to purchase and learn how to use quickbooks. which im sure is a good idea anyways .

btw this guy has been helping me day by day to set this up. apparently there was a problem with my SS# and changing my account to a full fledged business account . anyways he calls me every day and we get a bit farther : ) kinda nice that i don't have to track him down. If i was in a hurry i guess it would suck.

This will give me an excuse to finally get my accounting right.
I have Peachtree, But I guess that wont work with it.
So much to do....

Milo

I am trying to find out the same scoop.

The difference right now is when a customer chooses pay pal they are redirected to the pay pal site and can use either a credit card or pay pal account even if they dont have a pay pal account they can use a credit card. The new system Payments pro allows the customer to stay on your site when using a credit card just as if you had any other payment processor installed, they only have to redirect to pay pal site to use their pay pal account for the funds.

I believe I lose alot of sales if a person sees just pay pal and isnt either familiar with them, or if they do not know they can use any major credit card even without a pay pal account. Basically Pay Pal has now become there own payment processor gateway with cheaper fees then the other credit card processing companies.

So if anyone knows if payments can be used with any versions of zen cart i need to know as well, I have one site from 2 years ago and one I am developing right now so if the older versions can now handle payments pro that would be valuable info for me as well.

Greg
NYCG

Greg, a response is posted in your original thread:
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44776

newyorkcustomgolf:

I am trying to find out the same scoop.

The difference right now is when a customer chooses pay pal they are redirected to the pay pal site and can use either a credit card or pay pal account even if they dont have a pay pal account they can use a credit card. The new system Payments pro allows the customer to stay on your site when using a credit card just as if you had any other payment processor installed, they only have to redirect to pay pal site to use their pay pal account for the funds.

I believe I lose alot of sales if a person sees just pay pal and isnt either familiar with them, or if they do not know they can use any major credit card even without a pay pal account. Basically Pay Pal has now become there own payment processor gateway with cheaper fees then the other credit card processing companies.

So if anyone knows if payments can be used with any versions of zen cart i need to know as well, I have one site from 2 years ago and one I am developing right now so if the older versions can now handle payments pro that would be valuable info for me as well.

Greg
NYCG

just as a FYI you can easliy use card services international /linkpoint to take credit cards directly .

im still working with paypal to get this paypal 2.0 (pay flow) working . my accounts all set up and now i need to download tool to put it on my site and call this other number so they can walk me through the install . i have been too busy to get it done and i am currently getting more used to using link point. once its finished i should be able to take credit cards directly through paypal without the customer leaving my site or knowing that they just used paypal. who knows it it will really work like they say.

snarkys, its gonna work just like the verisign payflowpro

cause thats what it is.

remember paypal bought verisign

Merlinpa1969:

snarkys, its gonna work just like the verisign payflowpro

cause thats what it is.

remember paypal bought verisign

ok you are going to have to forgive me. I am new to all this and consider myself lucky just to have gotten as far as i have with the cart.

I had no clue what verisign or payflowpro was and how it worked or if it worked with the zen cart.

what am i hoping the paypal version of this will do is put all my payments, normal paypal and this payflow, on the same account so i can easily see what has been paid for/shipped and what hasn't without flipping back and forth between the cart and the different shipping programs . id also really like to not have to cut and paste every address in for shipping. seems like it will cost me about the same as or less as using these shipping programs and a merchant account yet easier .

If i am going down the wrong path here please tell me, you certainly know a ton more about this than I do : )

We won't know whether PayPal will display information the way you are hoping or not ... until you get to the point of receiving payments via that method.

Unless of course PayPal tech support will give you a straight answer on the issue.

Here's hoping your concerns are resolved as you hope.

Have you checked out the new Super Orders mod ? It does make order-processing much easier ;)

I will suck it up and deal with paypal tomorrow,
I will findout if payments are shown the same as transfers,
I will findout if the payflow modules will still be compatible

DrByte:

We won't know whether PayPal will display information the way you are hoping or not ... until you get to the point of receiving payments via that method.

Unless of course PayPal tech support will give you a straight answer on the issue.

Here's hoping your concerns are resolved as you hope.

Have you checked out the new Super Orders mod ? It does make order-processing much easier ;)

well they are having a terrible time setting this up for me . my account keeps rejecting parts of what they are doing . it has something to do with the way that the original guy had me set it up and my SS#. on the bright side they call me with updates almost every day and let me know whats going on so i never had to call them : )

sure would be slick if it works for me someday , time will tell .

EDIT I just logged in and it looks like my account is now active and set up correctly. now to call them and get the API thing installed .

Merlinpa1969:

I will suck it up and deal with paypal tomorrow,
I will findout if payments are shown the same as transfers,
I will findout if the payflow modules will still be compatible

i look forward to hearing what you find out

Merlinpa1969:

I will findout if the payflow modules will still be compatible

im not sure what module to use, is there one in the downloads section of zen cart that i overlooked ?

she told me she would hook me up with someone who will walk me threw installing this on my website with a Payflow Pro Software Development Kit .

here is a SS from the kit page

Yes there is a payflow module look in the archived downloads,
they have no idea how zen works so their advice as usual is full of holes

Merlinpa1969:

Yes there is a payflow module look in the archived downloads,
they have no idea how zen works so their advice as usual is full of holes

ya she told me shes not familiar with zen cart but assured be she would find someone that was .... like most large companies that have a gazillion employes i think the key is to find someone that knows what they are doing or at least find someone who knows how to find someone else that does. if they sound like an idiot from the first second ask them for someone higher up the customer service chain or hang up immediately and try again. id call today but i have some tenants moving out and i need to get over there and work on it.

for anyone looking here is the achieved downloads

http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=40

I am allready a paypal pro mechant with them.
Will there by any set up costs or just an additional $20 gatway fee?

paypal pro and payflow are 2 totally seperate things,

payflow is the verisign merchant service that paypal bought they just changed the name and the setup is a coupla hunderd bux