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10 May 2007, 9:31 PM
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USPS new rates May

tomarriola:

Linda, do you think --in progress-- updated usps module will be backwards compatible with previous zen carts, such as the popular 1.2.6 ?

Tom

Yes, it should be backwards-compatible to v1.2.0.

(BTW, if you're staying with v1.2.x for a reason, you should at least upgrade to v1.2.7 to benefit from security fixes)

10 May 2007, 9:46 PM
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Great idea. Took it to heart and have my table rates ready to go if needed.

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10 May 2007, 10:05 PM
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Great idea. Took it to heart and have my table rates ready to go if needed.

You should ALWAYS have a backup method ready since Rate Servers have been known to go down. :)

11 May 2007, 3:12 AM
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Re: USPS new rates May

Wait wait wait.

Don't change them yet. I'm not ready.

12 May 2007, 5:01 PM
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Re: USPS new rates May

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Great idea. Took it to heart and have my table rates ready to go if needed.

Ron

Since I posted that, and implemented it, I've not had any more issues. I would still rather charge actual shipping because it's unfair to those located in my zone (florida) to have to pay the same shipping as someone in California would have to pay, but for now it's a CYA matter and it's been working out just fine.

I still offer UPS as an option but have the shipping padded because I really hate to go to the UPS store here and if they want it, they're going to pay for the inconvenience. :yes:

12 May 2007, 6:03 PM
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From what I'm reading about the changes (on the oscommerce board, oscmax, and other carts where the shipping mod is already fixed), if you use usps for domestic mail only there "should" be no changes-- but if you use international rates, there will be problems.
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12 May 2007, 6:51 PM
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Re: USPS new rates May

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"should" be no changes
That would be nice, but its not true. There will be 3 types of first class mail. And each type will be priced differently. "The new pricing system is based on the shape of mail, not just the weight."

12 May 2007, 9:44 PM
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That would be nice, but its not true. There will be 3 types of first class mail. And each type will be priced differently. "The new pricing system is based on the shape of mail, not just the weight."

Thanks for setting me straight. Now I'm all the more concerned about the Monday changes.

:)
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12 May 2007, 10:15 PM
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Re: USPS new rates May

Any new news on this yet? I ship to a great many international customers, all packages sent USPS with Airmail Letter or Priority... plus quite a few USA shipments using First Class Mail.

Any news on an update for the built-in USPS shipping module...?

I notice that Endicia has only just now (within the last week or so) released their update for their program, and OUCH those extra fields for package size definitely put a drag on shipping speed here. :-/ :dontgetit

[edited to add:]

Just a thought... but I already track or book internally the dimensions of each product we sell. Something that added dimensions to the product database might be useful? eg. if a customer adds just one item to their cart, then the cart would know to go with xxx size envelop/box, etc. but if the customer added 100, then the cart could calculate what size of envelop or box should be used. Of course, I have no idea on how to implement this, but would sure like to see something like that available at some time.

12 May 2007, 10:18 PM
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Re: USPS new rates May

The new pricing system is based on the shape of mail, not just the weight.

Unless you do a lot of envelope mailings this isn't going to affect most of you.

12 May 2007, 10:25 PM
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Re: USPS new rates May

Greetings Kim!

95% of all of our shipments are envelop mailings, either First Class or International Airmail. The remaining 5% are flat rate Priority Mail... about 1,000 pieces per month.

12 May 2007, 10:27 PM
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http://www.usps.com/prices/prices_shape.htm - Really not that different from the old.

12 May 2007, 11:34 PM
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Is there a new API for getting postage costs? I have not found a new one at USPS. I am sure I will need to tell the code to get the "package rate" for first class mail. Or is the current module already asking for the package rate?

13 May 2007, 5:50 AM
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Re: USPS new rates May

yodamo:

Any new news on this yet? I ship to a great many international customers, all packages sent USPS with Airmail Letter or Priority... plus quite a few USA shipments using First Class Mail.

Any news on an update for the built-in USPS shipping module...?

I notice that Endicia has only just now (within the last week or so) released their update for their program, and OUCH those extra fields for package size definitely put a drag on shipping speed here. :-/ :dontgetit

[edited to add:]

Just a thought... but I already track or book internally the dimensions of each product we sell. Something that added dimensions to the product database might be useful? eg. if a customer adds just one item to their cart, then the cart would know to go with xxx size envelop/box, etc. but if the customer added 100, then the cart could calculate what size of envelop or box should be used. Of course, I have no idea on how to implement this, but would sure like to see something like that available at some time.
I agree. Perhaps the team could consider that for a future ZenCart version?

13 May 2007, 11:07 AM
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Is there a new API for getting postage costs? I have not found a new one at USPS. I am sure I will need to tell the code to get the "package rate" for first class mail. Or is the current module already asking for the package rate?

Apparently there is, but there is no documentation on it.
Their posted documentation is for API v1.0. But this month's changes relate to their API v3.0.

13 May 2007, 2:45 PM
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I'm just going to either add a heck of a surcharge or remove the USPS as a shipping method until they get their poop in a group.

13 May 2007, 4:51 PM
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Re: USPS new rates May

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Response (Kim E) - 05/13/2007 10:47 AM
Dear DENNIS SAYER,

I have researched into when the new documentation will be available. The new user documentation for web tools will be available on our website by noon on Monday May 14, 2007.

If I can be of assistance to you in the future, please don't hesitate to contact me.

Thank you for choosing the United States Postal Service®.

Regards,

Kim E

13 May 2007, 4:54 PM
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I called USPS last night. They agree there is no API update on there site. And they would give me nothing over the phone. I asked who I need to call for this info. the answer was basically "don't call us, we will call you". They took my email address. And that was it.
After playing with settings I agree there are no changes required if you are going to use the First Class Parcel rate. Because the First class settings will default to the higher Parcel rate. If you want to test and make a display change do the two following changes in /includes/modules/shipping/usps.php.
With no other changes, USPS returns First Class - Package rates. Which is what I needed.

Change this:
$usps_server = 'production.shippingapis.com';
To this:
$usps_server = 'stg-production.shippingapis.com';

This:
'First Class' => 'First-Class Mail',
To This:
'First Class' => 'First Class Parcel',

Other things I learned yesterday by process of expimentation, but not needed for Monday are.
// old
// $request = 'API=Rate&XML=' . urlencode($request);
// change to
$request = 'API=RateV3&XML=' . urlencode($request);

// old
// $request .= '</RateRequest>';
// change to
$request .= '</RateV3Request>';

// old
// $request = '<RateRequest USERID="' . MODULE_SHIPPING_USPS_USERID . '" PASSWORD="' . MODULE_SHIPPING_USPS_PASSWORD . '">';
// change to
$request = '<RateV3Request USERID="' . MODULE_SHIPPING_USPS_USERID . '">';

// old
//'<Service>' . $key . '</Service>' .
//'<ZipOrigination>' . SHIPPING_ORIGIN_ZIP . '</ZipOrigination>' .
// change to
'<Service>' . $key . '</Service>' .
'<FirstClassMailType>(1 of 3 new terms we dont know yet)</FirstClassMailType>' .
'<ZipOrigination>' . SHIPPING_ORIGIN_ZIP . '</ZipOrigination>' .

14 May 2007, 12:41 AM
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I called USPS last night. They agree there is no API update on there site. And they would give me nothing over the phone. I asked who I need to call for this info. the answer was basically "don't call us, we will call you". They took my email address. And that was it.
After playing with settings I agree there are no changes required if you are going to use the First Class Parcel rate. Because the First class settings will default to the higher Parcel rate. If you want to test and make a display change do the two following changes in /includes/modules/shipping/usps.php.
With no other changes, USPS returns First Class - Package rates. Which is what I needed.

Change this:
$usps_server = 'production.shippingapis.com';
To this:
$usps_server = 'stg-production.shippingapis.com';

This:
'First Class' => 'First-Class Mail',
To This:
'First Class' => 'First Class Parcel',

Other things I learned yesterday by process of expimentation, but not needed for Monday are.
// old
// $request = 'API=Rate&XML=' . urlencode($request);
// change to
$request = 'API=RateV3&XML=' . urlencode($request);

// old
// $request .= '</RateRequest>';
// change to
$request .= '</RateV3Request>';

// old
// $request = '<RateRequest USERID="' . MODULE_SHIPPING_USPS_USERID . '" PASSWORD="' . MODULE_SHIPPING_USPS_PASSWORD . '">';
// change to
$request = '<RateV3Request USERID="' . MODULE_SHIPPING_USPS_USERID . '">';

// old
//'<Service>' . $key . '</Service>' .
//'<ZipOrigination>' . SHIPPING_ORIGIN_ZIP . '</ZipOrigination>' .
// change to
'<Service>' . $key . '</Service>' .
'<FirstClassMailType>(1 of 3 new terms we dont know yet)</FirstClassMailType>' .
'<ZipOrigination>' . SHIPPING_ORIGIN_ZIP . '</ZipOrigination>' .

When I use their staging environment, US domestic priority works ok. However, I am getting the following error for international priority mail


We are unable to find a USPS shipping quote suitable for your mailing address and the shipping methods we typically use.
If you prefer to use USPS as your shipping method, please contact us for assistance.
(Please check that your Zip Code is entered correctly.)

Anyone has a workaround?

14 May 2007, 12:44 AM
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Re: USPS new rates May

We, the Zen Cart Development Team, have a release that will be coming out shortly ...

staging server is working fine with Monday rates ... and if USPS manages to flip the switch correctly ... all will be right in the world for both US and International ...

We have some folks testing as are we ... and all is looking good ... :cool: