Google Base Feeder Support Thread [OLD]

Hi everyone,

This new feature of Google banning feeds due to keywords and not providing a list of keywords is a problem.

So, how should we remedy this? Would you like a configuration field created where you can specify the keywords? Should the module then remove the keyword when it create the feed or skip the product? It seems if the keywords are banned, they probably do not want the products either...

Keep in mind any such feature will add additional server load and may cause larger stores to time out. Before we implement anything, please let us know the size of your store and what the best solution would be for you.

Just this week I began getting product rejection notices for Google on the products I've been submitting for close to four years. Actually it's only on six of my 400+ products. It seems that Google has added a 'profanity' filter and some of my products are being flagged as inappropriate. I took a look and the products contain the three letter 'A' word (I don't want to offend anyone here but am writing this for clarification).

Will the current version of the add-on support filtering out these products based on profanity? I'd like to keep the products on the site but not submit those products to google products.

I'm running a pretty old version of google base feeder but it's worked so reliably that I haven't upgraded in a while.

I know I might be a little out of line here but I'm getting ready to install this feeder and have a few questions.

Is a dedicated IP really needed for it to run? I read that some place and want to know.

There are numerous SQL updates (18) shown do I need to just load the last one after I install (version 1.8.1)? (2.Install current version update_###.sql by copying and pasting (do not upload);)

The instructions say "3.Go to Admin->Tools->Install SQL Patches and install googlefroogle.sql by copying and pasting (do not upload);" and I can't even find that file.

Just so I understand I need to take these SQL files, open them some how, and then copy and paste the commands in the window in ZC rather than uploads?

Please help if you can.... I'm computer savvy just a little confused. :blink:

numinix:

Hi everyone,

This new feature of Google banning feeds due to keywords and not providing a list of keywords is a problem.

So, how should we remedy this? Would you like a configuration field created where you can specify the keywords? Should the module then remove the keyword when it create the feed or skip the product? It seems if the keywords are banned, they probably do not want the products either...

Keep in mind any such feature will add additional server load and may cause larger stores to time out. Before we implement anything, please let us know the size of your store and what the best solution would be for you.
You can find lists of bad adsence words and looking at the list, more then likely is what's being blocked. Perhaps a pre scan using a text file list returning a product ID. Let the user check the product before doing the feed creation.

I've only had one product get rejected out of 5000 so far.
One of the bad word lists....
urbanoalvarez(dot)es/blog/2008/04/04/bad-words-list/

I can see why google is doing this, lots of complaints with adsence ads.

I did a little research and it is related to 'family safe' option. Unfortunately, I'd really like to keep my items in the 'safe search' part of google products as if I change to 'safe search', then I will only have my products show up if the user has changed their settings to allow for the 'safe search off' mode. I guess google just decided to check to make sure my products were in compliance.

It'd be really cool if this plugin would allow for setting the feed for either 'safe search' or not and then filtered any offensive words based on a list of words. I'd be happy just to know where I can look to try and add this check myself. I know enough php to hack it in but don't have a whole lot of time right now to dissect the code. Any help is appreciated. I'll share my hack if anyone else is interested.

Is there anyway we can exclude product descriptions from the feed, and just keep the product title and image?

:censored:I have been with Google products from day one. I have had over a dozen feeds that were problem free for many years. Suddenly and without any notice they disapproved all product feeds. It took two weeks to get a response to my enquiry. They told me they had determined that I was a drop shipper and did not own my inventory. Where did they get that from? Amazon maybe. I sent them a video of my warehouse and some documents. After a few more weeks they sent me an email saying they had determined that I was not a drop shipper. I put the feeds up again. After a few days all but one were disapproved again. After a few weeks I got an email stating that I had duplicate products on multiple websites. Which was true but it was less than a dozen products spread across a few websites. Why disapprove them all? I fixed that and was able to get a few feeds approved. Today Google disapproved all the feeds except one stating I had invalid media and book identifiers. I have had to lay off 36 employees because of Google's shenanigans. It seems that when a feed is disapproved you loose page ranking. I was number one now I am on the third page. Amazon has taken over my original position. Is this some sort of collusion between Google and Amazon? Just in time to knock out the competition before the Christmas season begins. What ever happened to the notion of communication? Why can't Google send an email stating the problem and giving a few weeks to comply? Is there an alternative to Google products? Are other people having the same problem? Is there a better way to communicate with Google other than the email form provided online?

Hi, I have seen the question asked several times before on this thread, but cant seem to find an answer.

I am using zencart Zen Cart v1.3.8a/v1.3.8

Im not sure how to find which version of googlebase feeder is installed.

I have the option to sellect "New" in the configuration, and have done so, but google rejects the feed saying there is no condition attribute.

Any help much appriciated.

I've installed google base feeder, latest version. It is working flawlessly so far in that the uploaded xml file to google was accepted and everything looked perfectly fine.
I also have CEON URL Mapper, latest version which is a great module as well I might add.
Anyone know how to make base feeder work with CEON url mapping so the urls mapped into the feed are the seo friendly urls? Have searched this thread and don't really see an answer.

dgent:

Is there anyway we can exclude product descriptions from the feed, and just keep the product title and image?

Well while im sure there is a way to do this...that would throw you into a secondary issue of not having product desc and they would prob disallow those as well.

but on a different note, I have been looking around and havent seen anyone mention it yet to be worked on but is there any idea on if this is going to include their new mandatory desc for books/media?

Has anyone had success with the googlebase isbn/upc feature?

I activated the upc/isbn feature. The isbn number uploads in the feed but in my google merchant account, in the feed errors, google recognizes it as an invalid upc number.

My feed shows the isbn number in the correct field

<g:isbn>0517093103</g:isbn>

This was a few months ago and I had asked about it on the google boards and never got a resolution.

I'd love to hear about the experience others have had with it.

buildingblocks:

Has anyone had success with the googlebase isbn/upc feature?

I activated the upc/isbn feature. The isbn number uploads in the feed but in my google merchant account, in the feed errors, google recognizes it as an invalid upc number.

My feed shows the isbn number in the correct field

<g:isbn>0517093103</g:isbn>

This was a few months ago and I had asked about it on the google boards and never got a resolution.

I'd love to hear about the experience others have had with it.

Are you using product book type? If yes, how did you get zencart to show isbn for google feed? You activated isbn/upc feature? Do you mean in google?

Thanks, Kim

I have googlebase 1.8.2 installed along with the mod, numinix product fields.

In admin configuration > googlebase feed configuration - I have

UPC/ISBN
If using Numinix Product Fields, include UPC/ISBN? - this is set to true

and

Numinix Product Fields
Activate Numinix Product Fields (requires separate add-on)? - this is set to true

I do not use, product book type.

Numinix says, Numinix product fields is all that is needed.

When I go to my google merchant account and check my Feed status summary it shows

Item Warnings - 11 items with warnings 11 items affected
11
Invalid UPC value (11 warnings)

Please make sure the value is a valid UPC value.
Learn more.
Examples: Examples:
Item Nr. Line Nr. Value
89 1,515 0801967295
136 2,315 0345303075
163 2,777 0619059206
170 2,897 0448089068
174 2,968 0517093103

So for example the first item 89

Item Nr. Line Nr. Value
89 1,515 0801967295

When I open my xml file and find the value that google says is a upc number - 0801967295, it shows

<g:isbn>0801967295</g:isbn>

I don't use UPC numbers at all. My xml file doesn't have any upc fields in it, only isbn.

oh, and my zen cart is version 1.3.9d

buildingblocks:

I have googlebase 1.8.2 installed along with the mod, numinix product fields.

In admin configuration > googlebase feed configuration - I have

UPC/ISBN
If using Numinix Product Fields, include UPC/ISBN? - this is set to true

and

Numinix Product Fields
Activate Numinix Product Fields (requires separate add-on)? - this is set to true

I do not use, product book type.

Numinix says, Numinix product fields is all that is needed.

When I go to my google merchant account and check my Feed status summary it shows

Item Warnings - 11 items with warnings 11 items affected
11
Invalid UPC value (11 warnings)

Please make sure the value is a valid UPC value.
Learn more.
Examples: Examples:
Item Nr. Line Nr. Value
89 1,515 0801967295
136 2,315 0345303075
163 2,777 0619059206
170 2,897 0448089068
174 2,968 0517093103

So for example the first item 89

Item Nr. Line Nr. Value
89 1,515 0801967295

When I open my xml file and find the value that google says is a upc number - 0801967295, it shows

<g:isbn>0801967295</g:isbn>

I don't use UPC numbers at all. My xml file doesn't have any upc fields in it, only isbn.

oh, and my zen cart is version 1.3.9d

I do not have those attributes....
UPC/ISBN
If using Numinix Product Fields, include UPC/ISBN?

Numinix Product Fields
Activate Numinix Product Fields (requires separate add-on)?

I may have an older version. I will have to check. Thanks, Kim

buildingblocks:

I have googlebase 1.8.2 installed along with the mod, numinix product fields.

In admin configuration > googlebase feed configuration - I have

UPC/ISBN
If using Numinix Product Fields, include UPC/ISBN? - this is set to true

and

Numinix Product Fields
Activate Numinix Product Fields (requires separate add-on)? - this is set to true

I do not use, product book type.

Numinix says, Numinix product fields is all that is needed.

When I go to my google merchant account and check my Feed status summary it shows

Item Warnings - 11 items with warnings 11 items affected
11
Invalid UPC value (11 warnings)

Please make sure the value is a valid UPC value.
Learn more.
Examples: Examples:
Item Nr. Line Nr. Value
89 1,515 0801967295
136 2,315 0345303075
163 2,777 0619059206
170 2,897 0448089068
174 2,968 0517093103

So for example the first item 89

Item Nr. Line Nr. Value
89 1,515 0801967295

When I open my xml file and find the value that google says is a upc number - 0801967295, it shows

<g:isbn>0801967295</g:isbn>

I don't use UPC numbers at all. My xml file doesn't have any upc fields in it, only isbn.

oh, and my zen cart is version 1.3.9d

OK, how or what did you install that made it ask to set those fields?

Are you saying that when you installed the Numinix Product Fields addon and it automatically asked in googlebase if you wanted to ativate that option?

Or....maybe I have an older version of the googlebase feed module and I need to update it to ask for those items?

And I guess my next question would then be...If I update my googlebase module, is there any modifications that have been done that I will need to be concerned of?

I guess other than the zencart updates, I havent updated any of the modules I currently use. Is this an easy process to update?

OK....i just looked and Im using version 1.7.1a? theres like 5 updates since I installed this. When I update would i then do all of them or just the most recent?

fusionsp

I have googlebase 1.8.2 installed along with the mod, numinix product fields.

The 'upc/isbn' and 'Numinix Product Fields' configuration options are a part of the googlebase 1.8.2 installation.

The settings are found in

configuration > googlebase feed configuration

If one is going to use upc or isnb numbers in their feed then both these fields need to be set to true. In addition these two fields rely on 'numinix product fields' mod to work.

thanks, I was wondering about that. Currently Im waiting to hear from my distributers to get that information. As they have around 10k products and they never used that data, so their trying to update their own info.

but as far as updating....which .sql file/files would I use then to update my installation?

Thats not clearly notated in the install information.

Secondly, would updating my datafeed/install require anything other than what they listed which was just overwriting all files? I obviously assume I would need to redo my feed and reprocess it with google. But is there anything else need done to make it all work? Its all working fine now other than missing those fields, and Im really not looking to break anything, LOL

well as far as touching any modifications: the googlebase mod file names all begin with google so the mod files shouldn't touch any modifications of the cart itself.

Of course look at all the file names and use your own judgement.

Regarding the sql updates. If ever there is an uninstall sql, that is what I always go with. I uninstall and then install the newest sql.

The googlebase mod versions on my pc all have an uninstall file so check the files for the version you are using to see if you have an uninstall.sql.

And again use your own best judgement and always make a backup of your database and your store before you do anything.

Has anyone else got an email from Goggle about the changes made to include the shipping charges?

"An alternate way to submit shipping information is to include item-level values for the new shipping attribute in your data feed.
These values will override any account-level default values that you have set for that item.
More information on formatting the revised SHIPPING attribute, please visit http://www.google.com/support/merchants/bin/answer.py?answer=160085&hl=en_GB#shipping"