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31 Jan 2012, 12:37 PM
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Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Ironically, these "SEO URL" modules are a waste of time. They make NO DIFFERENCE to SEO.

In fact, they can do more harm than good.

The search engines PREFER native dynamic URL's and zencart generates very clean dynamic URL's.

31 Jan 2012, 2:20 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

fairestcape:

Ironically, these "SEO URL" modules are a waste of time. They make NO DIFFERENCE to SEO.

In fact, they can do more harm than good.

The search engines PREFER native dynamic URL's and zencart generates very clean dynamic URL's.
Ironically not everyone installs these mods for SEO purposes.. Nicer URLs do make a difference in marketing and sales materials/etc.

I do find these regular PSA posting's on the "non-value" of these mods in the various SEO support threads interesting.. :laugh:(equally interesting is that I never see these kinds of PSAs posted in the Ceon URI thread, just this support thread and the Ultimate SEO support thread)

Anyway, just wanted to add that there is another side/reason to use one of these mods.. I personally found SSU to be difficult to use and setup. (and this support thread bears out a lot of my experience in that regard) The support has ALWAYS been lacking IMHO, and now it is non-existent. So I prefer the Ceon URI mod for generating nice URIs. It's better supported, easier to setup/use, and it's got LOADS more flexibility than SSU and other similar add-ons..

anyway.. back to mostly lurking in this thread..

31 Jan 2012, 6:08 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

fairestcape:

Ironically, these "SEO URL" modules are a waste of time. They make NO DIFFERENCE to SEO.

In fact, they can do more harm than good.

The search engines PREFER native dynamic URL's and zencart generates very clean dynamic URL's.

Then why is it that when I use a program like IBP to optimize my site for specific keywords, it includes a part for 'keyword in url'? I've actually gotten this mod to work, and I have definitely noticed an increase in ranking for my keywords. Just my $.02

31 Jan 2012, 7:00 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

We have never used these modules - not even the esteemed Ceon's URI Mapping - because even this mod serves no useful purpose. There are very few (if any) situations, where a generated URI makes for a better user experience. In search engine results, the returned URI is not even a clickable link, and even in situations where a hyperlink needs to be created, the link title can be far better crafted using a more meaningful keyword.

We have one client who has 375 products on his site, and ALL 375 products enjoy search rankings of 1 to 5 on Google UK (his prime market). For more generic keywords, more than 80% of the desired seach words and phrases generate a top 10 result.

We have had to "rescue" several sites from these problematic modules over the years, and all of them experience either better, or identical search rankings when reverted to core ZC behaviour. True... one needs to do a full 301 re-direct for a while, but within a very short space of time, the search engines re-build their indexes.

I have no objection to people using these modules, and in fact, if your business is in competition with one of our clients' sites I actually urge you to install a SEO URL module... It means one less competitor to worry about in the SERP stakes. :D

31 Jan 2012, 8:04 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

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We have never used these modules - not even the esteemed Ceon's URI Mapping - because even this mod serves no useful purpose. There are very few (if any) situations, where a generated URI makes for a better user experience.
So what do you suggest to folks who want/need nicer looking URLS for say.. marketing materials.. those long URLS don't really work on marketing and sales materials.. Because for my customers who use these tools, THAT's what they are after..
schoolboy:

I have no objection to people using these modules, and in fact, if your business is in competition with one of our clients' sites I actually urge you to install a SEO URL module... It means one less competitor to worry about in the SERP stakes. :DNo offense, but the anti-SEO mod PSA's you post in these various support threads (except t"he esteemed Ceon's URI Mapping") would tend to indicate otherwise.. :D

1 Feb 2012, 5:08 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

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Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Did you reset the cache after you made changes?

Yep, everything hse been reset by now but still does not give the update button.

2 Feb 2012, 10:13 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

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So what do you suggest to folks who want/need nicer looking URLS for say.. marketing materials.. those long URLS don't really work on marketing and sales materials.. Because for my customers who use these tools, THAT's what they are after..

That's a valid point. Rendering a product-specific URL in a printed document might have an advantage if the URL is more "understandable" to a human. Interestingly, back in 2008 we produced a printed catalogue for a company selling educational resources and teaching aids. In this catalogue, we referenced the URL for every product as its standard dynamic URL.

We had user tracking module installed on the webshop, and within days of the printed catalogue reaching the 35,000 UK schools to which it was sent, we saw many (scores, in fact) visitors come into the site via the product-specific url referenced in the printed catalogue.

At the time, we had considered the "value" of static URL's, but came to the conclusion that either way, the customer would still have to READ (visually absorb) the URL before typing it into a browser, and it actually made no difference if the URL was in a dynamic format or static format. They would just READ what was printed in the catalogue, and type that into the browser address bar.

We did a focus group on the usage of the catalogue a few weeks before printing it. Afterall, printing a 300-page catalogue and mailing it to nearly 40,000 people was going to cost us about £500,000 - so we needed to make sure people could use it effectively.

While the people in the focus group were not specifically asked if they found the URL confusing (we did not think it mattered much), their collective report on the catalogue was very positive and on the question: "Were you easily able to find the product on the website?" the resounding answer was "Yes".

The focus group result ALSO showed that most people would simply navigate to the site's home page and use the SEARCH function to find the product - mainly because they were after SEVERAL items - not just one, and once inside the site, the search feature would be used to return a result on the Product Code (Model) in more than 75% of cases, and the Product Title was used in about 20% of cases - with more "generic" searches used in the remaining 5% of cases.

As a result of this focus group's input, the PRODUCT CODE was made more prominent in the catalogue, with advice on how to use the site's search feature.

The dynamic URL was still referenced - and as indicated, was used MANY times to reach the product.

Over 700,000 UK teachers have access to this catalogue - and to date no complaints have ever been received about "confusing" web links.

The site attracts about 4,500 teachers a day, and generates about 250 - 500 orders a day (more at peak purchase times in the academic year).

DivaVocals:

No offense, but the anti-SEO mod PSA's you post in these various support threads (except t"he esteemed Ceon's URI Mapping") would tend to indicate otherwise.. :D

I don't actually care if people use SEO URL modules or not. All I am indicating is that they are not necessary, and (in many cases) do more harm than good. MOST people apply them because they have a (desperate) hope that they are going to be advantageous for SEO... and THIS is the myth that needs addressing. In Zencart's case they do nothing for "SEO", and (judging by the length of this thread) cause big problems...

If people want to use them, that's absolutely fine.

We have strong evidence that they do nothing advantageous - even when referencing URL's in printed marketing materials.

3 Feb 2012, 9:20 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

I'm having a problem getting SSU to work with a mobile website theme.. are there any .htaccess wizards around?

Currently SSU rewrites "index.php?main_page=" to a pretty URL. Everything is working fine with this.

The mobile theme I'm using sends all URLS to "mobile.php?main_page=". The problem is, SSU sends all mobile.php requests straight back to index.php, thus breaking the mobile theme.

I've changed SSU's configuration in the admin section of zen-cart with no results. I'm fairly sure the best option is to stop SSU from rewriting mobile.php requests altogether, does anyone know how I can configure this using .htaccess?

Unfortunately I'm "not allowed" to turn off SSU altogether, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

3 Feb 2012, 10:26 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Product info page:
https://www.example.com/bracelets-c-1_2/fashion-silver-p-9

A manufacturer link:
https://www.example.com/toyota-manufacturer-12

It works for any module that uses ZenCart’s function to create links.

As of version 3+, SSU allows you to add keywords into any links you want, be it a manufacturer link, an ez-page link, a product review link, or any type of link you want. You can write your own plugin to add keywords into your links.

As of version 3.6.0+ SSU can remove all the identifiers and ids from links automatically. It is also capable of creating a well-structured category urls:
https://www.example.com/cars/toyota/corrola (cars and toyota are category and sub-category while corrola is the product)

3 Feb 2012, 4:00 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Mark_88:

I'm having a problem getting SSU to work with a mobile website theme.. are there any .htaccess wizards around?

Currently SSU rewrites "index.php?main_page=" to a pretty URL. Everything is working fine with this.

The mobile theme I'm using sends all URLS to "mobile.php?main_page=". The problem is, SSU sends all mobile.php requests straight back to index.php, thus breaking the mobile theme.

I've changed SSU's configuration in the admin section of zen-cart with no results. I'm fairly sure the best option is to stop SSU from rewriting mobile.php requests altogether, does anyone know how I can configure this using .htaccess?

Unfortunately I'm "not allowed" to turn off SSU altogether, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Any thoughts guys? At my wits end here, I've been trying different solutions all day to no avail.

3 Feb 2012, 4:44 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Don't expect any help here anytime soon.. Little to no support here as the author of SSU no longer support this mod.

yellow1912:

I no longer provide installation support on forum for all my modules. However, if there are real bugs with the modules please feel free to contact me

11 Feb 2012, 7:58 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Mark_88:

I'm having a problem getting SSU to work with a mobile website theme.. are there any .htaccess wizards around?

Currently SSU rewrites "index.php?main_page=" to a pretty URL. Everything is working fine with this.

The mobile theme I'm using sends all URLS to "mobile.php?main_page=". The problem is, SSU sends all mobile.php requests straight back to index.php, thus breaking the mobile theme.

I've changed SSU's configuration in the admin section of zen-cart with no results. I'm fairly sure the best option is to stop SSU from rewriting mobile.php requests altogether, does anyone know how I can configure this using .htaccess?

Unfortunately I'm "not allowed" to turn off SSU altogether, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Having the same issue, so if anyone happens to come up with an answer, I would really appreciate it if you'd share! Thanks!

12 Feb 2012, 2:29 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

I copied my folder to a new folder for development purposes but the SSU links don't work and in my new folder any link I click it remains in the homepage. Does anyone know if it is possible to have SSU working while moving folders, or if we need to change something?

I googled and searched the board but didn't found any answers

15 Feb 2012, 10:15 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

tesefoti:

I copied my folder to a new folder for development purposes but the SSU links don't work and in my new folder any link I click it remains in the homepage. Does anyone know if it is possible to have SSU working while moving folders, or if we need to change something?

I googled and searched the board but didn't found any answers

BUMP on this question

And would like to add the following:

Has anyone tried this in zen cart 1.5? Does it work? Thanks

15 Feb 2012, 11:09 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

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Has anyone tried this in zen cart 1.5? Does it work? Thanks
Don't expect any help here anytime soon.. Little to no support here as the author of SSU no longer support this mod. So no it probably doesn't work with Zen Cart v1.5

16 Feb 2012, 2:05 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Support can be had at the website: http://simple-seo-url.com/

16 Feb 2012, 2:55 AM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

tlyczko:

Support can be had at the website: http://simple-seo-url.com/Posted: January 28th, 2011 no RECENT updates here..

16 Feb 2012, 9:02 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

Even if the author of this mod is not here, I would still like to hear from anyone who upgraded to 1.5 if SSU still works?

Also, did anyone had a development folder (to test changes before going live) and make SSU work when creating a new folder?

Thanks!

16 Feb 2012, 10:53 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

tesefoti:

Even if the author of this mod is not here, I would still like to hear from anyone who upgraded to 1.5 if SSU still works?

Also, did anyone had a development folder (to test changes before going live) and make SSU work when creating a new folder?

Thanks!
SSU, like nearly EVERY Zen Cart add-on, will likely NOT work with Zen Cart v1.5. Because SSU modifies MANY core files it's UNLIKELY that is will work with Zen v1.5..

16 Feb 2012, 10:56 PM
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Re: Simple SEO URL (OLD version) [support thread]

I'm starting to feel like a broken record..:laugh::laugh: Let me post this from Dr Byte.. Perhaps THIS will get the "Why SSU is NOT compatible with v1.5??" message across..

DrByte:

The addon needs to be upgraded to work with the new admin menu system in v1.5. There are several discussion threads which address those matters.
There are several more things, security-related, that are also required when upgrading modules for compatibility with v1.5. If you don't also do those things then your addons will not work either. They'll be redirecting you to your admin home page every time you click on a link in the addon.
So, merely adding menu options isn't sufficient for all addons.